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December 15, 2020 at 12:53 pm #371101KyleeParticipant
Dear WestCoast Gal,
I have gone through this same exact thing with my current boyfriend! About 6 months in, I started feeling there might be some things I didn’t know about him. At this point, we had just barely became “official”, and so I felt like it was plausible to deepen the relationship a bit. When I would bring this up to him though, he said he felt bad because he believed he had been deep with me and that he thought I knew him pretty well. I reflected back on myself and why I had been feeling this way, and I chalked it up to the fact that in all my past relationships, I had gotten super close super fast. This relationship was different because we had taken the time to go on dates, only see each other a couple times a week, and allow the connection to bloom on its own. So once I was actually his girlfriend, I had felt confused because in my past relationships, 6 months in, I knew all of their trauma and they knew all of mine. I realized that me not knowing absolutely everything about him in 6 months wasn’t a loss and that I should do what I had been doing up until that point: letting the relationship bloom on its own. And it worked! A year later we are best of best friends. In the last year, I gained so much knowledge about him, but in a less controlled way. Either he’d openly come to me about something, or I’d randomly ask a question that lead him to open up.
Obviously, my situation could be a lot different than yours, but I just thought I’d mention it in case you had a similar past to mine. All in all, I think most men have a hard time opening up and it’s not always necessarily because they don’t want to. It could be because they just don’t really think about things like that. As women, we will offer information about ourselves because we want to be understood, but most times men truly could care less about how people perceive them. I’d just try asking things you want to know, after a while, he’ll probably feel comfortable enough just telling you outright. If he has a hard time answering the questions you want to know, and depending on what the question is, that’s when I would begin to feel iffy.
December 2, 2020 at 12:50 pm #370363KyleeParticipantDear Holly,
I would definitely say something to your coworkers when they do something that upsets you. People will often repeat the same behaviors because they are unaware they were doing it in the first place. Since you have a somewhat good relationship with your boss, it seems that they probably wouldn’t mind you putting you foot down a bit. Obviously try to stay professional about it, but also don’t continue to take what they’re doing/saying to you. For example, you say that someone took something out of your hand, in that situation I’d say, “Actually, I was using that, but I can give it to you after if you need.” I feel like most genuine people would take the hint, and realize they just tried to take something out of your hands. It’s obviously hard to come up with professional ways of telling someone to chill out, but it is possible. It’s also hard because you don’t want to say something that will upset them and make them want to “tell on you.” As long as you stay professional about it though, there is nothing anyone could do or say to you about doing so. Just because you work there doesn’t mean you have to take the BS that people put onto you. Stand your ground in the most professional way possible. And when you can, find a new job! Good luck to you 🙂
November 10, 2020 at 1:04 pm #368929KyleeParticipantI have not been married myself, but I was advised by my mother at 18 to keep a bank account of my own if I chose to get married one day. She told me that its purpose would, yes, be a rainy day fund if the marriage doesn’t last. Also though, it could act as a savings account for your kid for college, or it could be money that you use solely for you and your hobbies.
I can see why it may hurt your feelings that she didn’t tell you about this separate account in the first place and is now playing things cool. However, I’d advise you to just ask yourself if it really matters to you to make a big deal about it? If you’d like to talk to her, knowing you’ll feel better once you know the truth from her, then do it! If you feel like you’ll be able to move on and just accept that she was saving money on her own, then do it! Do whatever you think will ease your mind about the situation.
In my opinion there’s no reason not to save money individually in a relationship. You pay your mortgage and the things you use together, together. So use the rest of the money you earned to do what you want.
November 5, 2020 at 2:44 pm #368698KyleeParticipantHoney,
I wasn’t trying to seem like I knew anything about your relationship, other than the information you had on your forum and the responses that followed. So I apologize, I’m not trying to make it seem that way.
I think you have misunderstood me as well. Yes you may never be “cured” and I’m not at all saying that you need to be completely cured and “have everything sorted out” before entering a relationship, because you are correct, you will never have “everything sorted out.” What I’m saying is, based off what you have typed out here on this website: you should not enter another relationship until you know more about your mental illness and how it effects you.
I suffer from anxiety and depression, and have since I was 16. I am 21 almost 22, now. I know what it’s like to be in a relationship at a young age while also battling mental illness. I ignored it for years. I knew something was wrong mentally, but I just kept trying to find someone who “understood me.” Well I couldn’t find someone who understood me, until I was able to understand myself, and that is what I’m getting at. You’re aware you suffer from some sort of mental illness, but you don’t know why. My advice the first time I replied wasn’t to make you feel down about having a mental illness, it was to motivate you to speak to someone. So you know how to help yourself instead of hoping someone will know what to say to make you feel better. Again, I’m not trying to insinuate that you relied on your ex or expected him to be your therapist. But obviously the reason you two broke up, was because of your mental illness and the fact you didn’t know how to help yourself.
Until you talk to a professional, who really knows how to speak to someone with mental illness, you will continue the same routine. There will not be a prince charming that will come along and take your pain away. He may dim the pain for a while, but until you learn how to help yourself, how can you expect others to help you?
Also, I was not trying to make it seem like there was no love in that relationship. You could very well of had a deep love with im. Like you said earlier, I don’t know all of the details of your relationship. I was just speaking from my heart and my experience. From my experience, I dated 3 boys in high school, and at that time I thought I loved all of them. It wasn’t until I had been in a relationship outside of high school that I realized, I had only truly been in love with 1/3. It could be different or the same for you. Your life is different from mine and anyone else’s. I was only speaking from experience because a lot of times, women experience a lot of the same things around that age. I was just offering my perspective.
Once again, I am not trying to seem rude or anything. I know what this situation feels like and that is why I’m not trying to sugar coat anything. Things I say don’t translate very well over text or written word at times. But I hope you get the jist of what I was trying to say and that is: You will never be able to truly love or care about anyone, until you can do it for yourself.
November 5, 2020 at 2:01 pm #368695KyleeParticipantLisa,
In my opinion, as long as it isn’t causing harm to you or him, there is nothing wrong with it. I think it’s normal to feel “wrong” for dating someone much younger or even older than you, because of the general cliche it holds in today’s society. However, it is 2020 and a lot of things have changed. We, as adults, are allowed to live our lives however we choose, so long as it doesn’t cause harm to others. So we can sleep with whomever we want to, we can talk to whomever we want to, and so on and so forth. I think it’s always best to keep your happiness at #1 priority. If you are happy and are taking care of yourself, you can then make others happy and help others to take care of themselves. There’s no way you can be happy if you live to please others.
Kylee
November 3, 2020 at 2:30 pm #368603KyleeParticipantHello there,
First off, if you are unhappy in your marriage and have tried counseling and other things, then it is in you and your son’s best interest to leave the marriage. You have to leave for you and not this man from 16 years ago. If you leave, and immediately go for this man, you may end up feeling regretful that you made your decision for the wrong reasons. If you leave for you and your son, you will be able to make clearer decisions. Possibly you wait some time to reconnect in person with this guy, after leaving your marriage, and everything feels wonderful and you get married and share the rest of your lives together. Possibly you wait and reconnect, and things aren’t the same because you’ve lived separate lives and enjoy certain things that might not add up together.
I think its best to analyze your current relationship and ask yourself if you’re truly unhappy with them, or if the thought of a past romance being sparked up again is wilting your current state of mind, pushing you to do something you may regret. Make this decision based on what would be best in the long run, for you, and your son.
November 3, 2020 at 2:08 pm #368602KyleeParticipantHoney,
Like Anita said, if you struggle with mental illness, you NEED to get that sorted out on your own before you bring outsiders into it. It is very important that you see a therapist that has been educated on how to properly communicate and sort through issues caused by mental illness. It is never your partner’s job to console your mental illness. Yes, they can rub your back and draw the tub for you when you’re feeling down, but they will never be able to “fix” the problem just by loving you. It’s possible you thought this and then got disappointed when he couldn’t help you get better. Then it continued to hurt you once he realized he didn’t need to be your white knight anymore, and stopped communication.
I would not send the letter and instead see a therapist. Tell them how you’ve been feeling, and I promise you will start to feel better. I know you say you just want your side to be known, even if it goes no where, but we all know that you’d be even more crushed not to get a reply back, or for it to just not do anything. You know what your feelings are, and that’s all that matters. Take this lesson and move forward. Tackle your mental illness with full force, so you have knowledge about how it effects you and how you can help yourself. You are still so young, and I know you probably hate to hear that because you feel like you really loved him. Maybe you did. I promise you though, in 5 years from now, you will know what love is, for yourself and for your future partners. With help from a professional, focus, and love, you will start to know how to navigate any and all relationships you have.
November 3, 2020 at 1:24 pm #368596KyleeParticipantAnita,
Thanks again, your words were very helpful.
It’s always better to be the bigger person. If she sees me being kind, it will most likely make her feel stupid for how she’s acted toward me.
November 3, 2020 at 12:03 pm #368590KyleeParticipantI think that maybe you should shift your perspective, for just a second. Have you ever considered the reason she doesn’t care to do any of those things is because she is comfortable with you? She doesn’t feel the need to have new clothes or wash off after work, because she knows that you love her for her? She probably feels that your love is so strong to the point where she doesn’t need to put in that extra effort, because you’ll love her anyway.
I would suggest letting her know that you do love her for her, but it’s safe to say, no one is turned on by poop stains. There are things I’m sure you could, and probably have, become accustomed to. There are things that you don’t want to become accustomed to. Let her know what those things are.
Maybe ask her questions that let you know why she doesn’t do these things you’d like her to do. Are you having a hard time doing laundry lately? Are we out of toilet paper? I know its somewhat passive aggressive, but it could give you insight on WHY she does these things. And if you come to find out she truly just doesn’t care, and if it’s that big of a deal for you, try moving on. It’s not a crime to want someone with good hygiene.
November 3, 2020 at 11:43 am #368588KyleeParticipantFirst of all, I’m so sorry you’re going through this.
My first piece of advice, I know it’s a hard pill to swallow, but you need to stop caring so much about what your family thinks of you and what’s best for you. Yes they’re your family, they’ve given you a home, food, clothes, etc. I know it’s hard to ignore what they want for you after giving you so much. However, you are an adult now. I don’t know how old you are, but based on that you had an IT position recently, I can assume that you are well over the age of having anyone tell you how to live your life.
My second piece of advice would be, to sit down with a pen and paper and write down what your goals are. Then ask yourself what you’re doing to achieve them? What’s in the way? I can assume a huge factor is your parents, and you see the issue here. You are not your parents and your parents are not you. They have lived a different life, grew up in a different time, with different people. Do you want to live the life your parents had or the life YOU want to live?
I wish I could tell you that there is something you could do or say to your parents for the abuse to stop. Unfortunately, the fact they have been this way forever and have gotten worse, I don’t think there’s anything you can do to make it stop, besides leaving. You have to show them that you are your own person, that you have your own drive and dreams. Perhaps once they see you being successful, they will come to their senses and apologize for being so hard on you.
It’s so sad to read this and imagine what you are going through, and again, I am so so sorry. However, the best thing you can do for yourself, is to leave. Do what is best for YOU and no one else, no matter if they’re blood or not.
You only live this life once, live it how YOU want to live it.
I’m wishing you the best.
November 3, 2020 at 11:19 am #368586KyleeParticipantDear Danny,
First of all, I want to say that it’s okay to realize you didn’t handle things the best, but don’t beat yourself up too much about it. We have all done and said things that we later realize didn’t do any good. Myself included.
I would first try to reach out to B, and ask her if she’d be willing to talk in person. Since you did hurt her, you have to consider that she may not want to talk to you and give you the chance to apologize. If she agrees, I think you should tell her essentially what you said in this forum. That you were hurt and not healed, which lead you to hurt her. Being honest is always the best way to go about things, even if it’s hard. I don’t know about you, I personally respect people for telling me how they feel even if it may hurt my ego at first.
Letting her know that you didn’t pursue her in a serious matter at first may hurt her, but it’s the truth and I’m sure she would rather be hurt by the truth and gain some closure perhaps, than to be hurt by a lie.
Speaking from experience, an ex of mine reached out a few months after we had broken up to apologize for a lot of the things that he had done to me. It felt nice to hear him say that he’s sorry and that he wished he hadn’t done or said things he did. In that certain situation though, it had only been 3 months, and I don’t believe a person could change that drastically in that time frame. It’s been over 10 months for you that you’ve been apart, and it truly seems like you’ve gained a lot of perspective on who you were then and who you’d like to be now, and that’s worth telling her.
Telling her that you’re sorry will help closure wise, it’ll ease her insecurities and anxiety, but I doubt it would make her immediately want to get back with you. You have to be very transparent about your mistakes, and tell her how you plan to change and be different this time around. You have to be completely honest about how she makes you feel and how you’ve realized that you mistreated her and the relationship. Take responsibility for how you’ve made her feel and the things you did, and she will be able to make a clearer decision about what she wants to do.
I think it’s worth noting, also, that this may take time. You aren’t going to be able to jump in where you left off. I would approach this as you’re trying to get to know her all over again. Take her on dates, call her just to say hello every once in a while, do things you would normally do in the beginning stages and try not to skip over that and get comfortable. This will make you both feel like this is a fresh start, and it won’t feel so forced.
Good luck with everything, Danny. I’m wishing you a life of happiness, whether you end up with B or not.
November 3, 2020 at 10:28 am #368582KyleeParticipantIt seems to me that he’s interested in you. Men are so wishy washy with feelings. Most men will not tell you how they feel about you, until they know you feel the same.
I could see this being the reason that he was giving the other person in your 3 person conversation more attention than you, he was probably purposely trying to play things cool. That’s why it’s sometimes beneficial to make the first move. I would suggest subtly flirting with him the coming weeks. When he stares at you, stare back and smile.
Also, keep eye contact. This is a huge way to show that you are interested in what he has to offer and he will feel that. After a while, I would straight up ask him out. Yes, there’s a potential for him to say no. There’s also potential for him to say yes, though.
I say, take a chance and see where this will take you. You never know what the outcome could be until you try.
November 3, 2020 at 10:16 am #368580KyleeParticipantThank you, Anita. I definitely agree, she was a roommate from hell.
What I mean by that question is, we still have many mutual friends. We haven’t ran into each other yet, due to COVID I am not going to any gatherings with more than 10 people, but I know it’ll happen sooner or later. I’m unsure how to act around her because I’m not wanting to talk to her but I also don’t want to make my other friends to feel uncomfortable. The three of us involved attended a small girls get together the day after everything went down, and Jordan was blatantly ignoring us and leaving us out. Calling all the other girls by name to come take a picture, or to take a shot, etc. I don’t want to do the same thing she did but I also don’t want her to think I’m cool with her at all.
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