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silvery blue
ParticipantI wanted to share one more thought…
I want to be compassionate and respectful to you, so I won’t drag you into my own problems over and over again. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want to connect with you… I just believe that oversharing doesn’t connect us, but rather the opposite… I can’t quite put it into the right words now… I don’t want to burden you with my own problems – I take responsibility for them. I know I have to deal with myself and my own emotions on my own. I don’t want to drag you into it and drain you, hurt you… again and again… That’s why I have to solve it on my own… and kind of isolate myself a bit. But I do cherish your presence…
Does it make sense to you? I cannot put my thoughts into words very well.
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silvery blue
Participant*making others feel responsible for the controller’s own behavior or feelings
silvery blue
ParticipantAnd that also means that I will no longer accept or tolerate gaslighting (making others question their own memory or perception of the situation), blaming or guilt-tripping (making others feel responsible for their own behavior or feelings), belittling members’ pain or feelings, or monitoring others (copying their threads and using them later against them).
These are signs of controlling behaviour and it makes many people here strressed. And that’s why I will point to these problems.
On mental health forum, these things are blocked, and users are even banned when this behavior is repeated.
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silvery blue
ParticipantI will be wiser. I will do what is right. Let this drama go with compassion and grace. ❤️
It’s my free will, my choice. It is my compassion to myself and others. I don’t want you to be a part of somneone else’s drama over and over again. You all have been hurt and under a lot of pressure here on this forum. I will protect you from the endless vicious circle of conflicts on this forum. ❤️
We deserve peace and compassion. We don’t need extra stress online. 🙏
If you need to ask or process something very sensitive, you can write to me silvery8blue@gmail.com
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello Lucidity,
It is painful to leave them behind but this is what I have chosen to do because it was affecting me, and so affecting my own family thro me, because I was unable to contain the negative influence my dad and sister had upon me. When I feel stronger I may revisit the situation because I do not want to abandon them but I chose to preserve my own sanity for my own sake and the sake of my family. I feel it was the right decision for me at this point in time. A choice had to be made to help someone since helping someone was what I wanted to do. In the end after years of arguments and disasters, I have chosen to help myself and my family. Helping my dad and sister led to further pain for all parties. Perhaps my dad and sister did not see it as pain but they couldnt stop themselves from responding to me in an emotionally immature way which is a difficult dynamic to withstand when it goes on and on and on. Breaking out of a trauma bond is a very hard and non intuitive thing to do. That may not be what you have at play. I am just relating to you the factors that were at play for me. Put in simply terms, I can only help others after I have helped myself to be a more sane person.
This speaks to me from the heart, and not only in terms of my private life, but also in terms of this forum.
I’m seriously considering whether I should be a part of this forum when the pattern of controlling behavior here is hurting me, because it seems to remind me of years of my bullying.
Maybe it would be wiser to distance myself, take better care of my mental health, and think about what to do next… However, is there any point in going back to this forum when this pattern keeps repeating itself (for years)?
I am sending ❤️ and ☀️ to think deeply about this.
I am only trying to become safe and brave. 🙏
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello everyone,
I will reread your posts here again after my break from forums.
This really resonates with me. Thank you, Tee, for sharing.
Boundaries are a two way street. If you don’t want replies. It is important to stop making painful assumptions about people that you don’t want to talk to you. You might not understand what you are doing is hurtful. It is. Which is why you have been asked to stop multiple times. No one has to stay quiet whilst you talk about them. It is a public space.
I am not criticising you. I am managing my own boundaries as someone you are repeatedly talking about. I am allowed to take care of myself, just as you are allowed to take care of yourself.
Honestly, I don’t need this stress. If you don’t stop I’m just going to leave because I don’t have the emotional bandwidth to deal with it right now.
🙏 ❤️
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silvery blue
ParticipantLISTENING TO OURSELVES
Sometimes when we attempt to listen to another person, we can’t
hear them because we haven’t listened to ourselves first. Our own
strong emotions and thoughts are so loud in our heart and in our
head, crying out for our attention, that we can’t hear the other
person. Before we listen to another, we need to spend time
listening to ourselves. We can sit with ourselves, come home to
ourselves, and listen to what emotions rise up, without judging or
interrupting them. We can listen to whatever thoughts come up as
well, and then let them pass without holding on to them. Then,
when we’ve spent some time listening to ourselves, we are able to
listen to those around us.🙏
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello everyone, I would like to share with you some more quotes from the book as inspiration and food for thought.
A PAUSE
Suppose someone just said something unpleasant to you. Their
words and the sound of their voice give you an unpleasant feeling.
You believe they are trying to make you suffer. Of course you feel
the desire to react, to say something back. You feel that if you can
express your anger, if you can make them suffer, you will get
relief. Most of us react in that way. But mindfulness can help us
pause for a moment and become aware of the anger building up
in us. Stopping gives us a chance to acknowledge and to
transform our anger. When we feel anger, irritation, or indignation
arising in us, we pause. We stop and come back to our breathing
straight away. We do not say or do anything when we are
inhabited by this kind of energy, so we don’t escalate the conflict.
We wait until we’re calm again. Being able to pause is the
greatest gift. It gives us the opportunity to bring more love and
compassion into the world rather than more anger and suffering.❤️
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silvery blue
ParticipantI know. 🫂 Do you have someone in your life you can talk to about this? How do you try to procees it?
And what actually makes you happy now? 😊
I’ll be offline for the weekend.
Sending ❤️
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silvery blue
ParticipantI’m not a mom, but I have some experience with children because I babysat my nephews a lot when they were little.
My sister’s middle son used to bite me when he didn’t like something, as well. I always just kept saying “ouch” with a sad expression, and that distracted him a bit and then he usually changed his attention to something else.
That worked until the “role-playing” phase came and he was a dinosaur and I was his prey. 😅
This part is so cute. My brother’s older son loved to play dogs. And he used to ask: “Which dog am I today?” and I was like “Today you are a dachshund and your name is…” and he would go around the flat “Woof, woof, …” ❤️ Our neighbours’ children play this game, too, and they bark at our dog. 😆
silvery blue
ParticipantInspiration:
WHERE THE FIGHT BEGINS
When someone says something unkind to you, you may want to retaliate right away. That is where the fight begins. This habitual way of reacting creates a well-worn pathway in your brain. When you travel a neural pathway over and over again, it becomes a habit. Very often that pathway leads to anger, fear, or craving. One millisecond is enough for you to arrive at the same destination: anger and a desire to punish the person who has dared to make you suffer. The mind and the brain are plastic in nature. You can change your mind, your brain, and the way you think and feel. With practice, you can create new neural pathways that lead to understanding, compassion, love, and forgiveness. Mindfulness and insight can intervene, redirecting you down a new neural pathway.I already know it’s worth reading. ❤️
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello MissLDuchess,
It’s terrible what happened to you! ❤️
However, I am very happy that you’ve gradually gotten to the point where you feel that it’s possible to find safety, empathy, and genuine connection as an adult. You are on the right way.
Sending ☀️
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silvery blue
ParticipantI am reading The Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching by Hanh again and I thought I could share this part about the seeds in our consciousness:
The practice of mindfulness helps us identify all the seeds in our consciousness and water the ones that are the most wholesome. When one person comes up to us, the very sight of him makes us uncomfortable. But when someone else walks by, we like her right away. Something in each of them touches a seed in us. If we love our mother deeply, but feel tense every time we think of our father, it is natural that when we see a young lady who looks like our mother, we will appreciate her, and when we see a man who evokes the memory of our father, we will feel uncomfortable. In this way, we can “see” the seeds that are in us – seeds of love for our mother and seeds of hurt vis-a-vis our father. When we become aware of the seeds in our storehouse, we will not be surprised by our own behavior or the behavior of others.
In Buddhism, there is something called “selective watering” – watering the wholesome seeds in our consciousness, and also protecting our senses from watering the unwholesome seeds from external sources. This helps me stay calmer and more balanced in hard times, but in heated conflicts I lose my ground and I cannot fully concentrate and make mistakes.
Any ideas, thoughts, tips, advice, experiences? 😊
Maybe I’ll find some thoughts and tips in the book How to Fight during the weekend. I’ll share some. ❤️
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silvery blue
ParticipantThank you, Roberta. 🪷
I will listen to the audio book, too. I’m sure it will be useful.
I might share some thoughts from it here later.
We can do our best for the bystanders who are effected by giving them access to a safe & loving environment to retreat to in times of both calm & stormy weather.
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I am working on it. Still much to do to become a strong, stable refuge for others.
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silvery blue
ParticipantWonderful. Let’s move on, please. 🙏 You can start your own thread, Anita, or continue in the journal. 😉
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