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ShelbyvilleParticipant
Dear NotSoLostStar,
I actually had a read of your own thread and got goosebumps. Some of the similarities with my situation were incredible –Ā such as your ex even putting you on the inside of footpath to protect you from traffic.
Thanks for your advice, I have been debating travel of late but I’m unsure if I’m just running away and I will fee dreadful whereever I am. I’m definitely feeling a lot sadder the past few days and not seeing any point in contacting my ex so I don’t know if I’m just shutting down or coming to accept things. I feel sad and a little pain, but nothing too acute as such.
Things seem like they are at a distance to me right now and that I’m not living life in technicolour, but rather grey or black and white, if that makes sense!
January 9, 2019 at 10:29 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #273431ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
we are most definitely depleted. Heartbreak is absolutely exhausting. So iāll take meh for now!
Iām in a tricky situation- an ex of mine from years ago- just a random rebound at the time, not someone I was really interested in- has been back and forth with me lately. Heās a super lovely fella, but absolutely no possibility of me going there. He seems down on his luck or just down lately and Iāve been chatting to him and just giving him advice. Now heās asked me to the cinema. As friends. Eek. Iām sure he means that, but I know the vibe. He really falls for anyone who remotely communicates in any way with him. Heās currently on a mission to find someone to settle down with. Iām not interested at all, heās just not someone Iād really be in to. Lovely as a friend but thatās it. But now I feel Iām going down a road that will lead me to awkwardness. Need help to get out of this. Iāve mad it clear Iām not interested in romance and may never be, with anyone, ever again! But I hope he still doesnāt misunderstand. Anyway, it wouldnāt be me, if there wasnāt some problem to deal with!
Iām so tired this evening, I plan to go to bed early because I was up with my sisters toddler during the night and early this morning!
How did the consultation go?
January 9, 2019 at 5:43 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #273361ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Thats it isnt it. The contact right now wonāt change anything, because nothing has changed! Although Iām off work today and I admit, the days Iām off, I do think about him more and also about contacting him. But again, Iām not too pushed today.
Im happy with my hair, I just feel, for a couple of months, I just about showered every day, so not that I have a bit of impetus to look a bit better, I might as well go with it! Even got the eye trio done at beauticians the other day too!
I did have to go to the dentist today and get a filling- but you know what? Itās all self care, even if drilling into teeth isnāt as fun as getting my hair done! Itās taking care of me!
I feel very much like you, even though we are in two very different places at the moment. I feel sort of āmehā…..Iām just not able to process much right now. Iām just kind of doing. Not thinking. Just doing. I donāt have the energy to figure out whatās going on with me. So iām just holding steady I guess. In a state of abeyance you might call it!
I feel a little more down today, but Iām going to ride it out and see how the day goes. Perhaps tomorrow will be different. Let me know how the nose consultion goes!
January 8, 2019 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #273255ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Thanks so much for that, I guess itās just another hurdle. Like my bday & Christmas & NYE, the anniversary will be something I will just endure. Our own relationship anniversary will be another hurdle at the end of Jan which is also in the back of my mind, so I just have to survive these dates.
Itās natural to feel relief that he contacted you and is showing he still cares. The resolve to maintain no contact seems to be strong in you however, choosing to do something for yourself to help you heal is significant progress this week.
At the moment, when I think about contacting my ex, I kind of internally shrug and think, whatās the point. Nothing has changed. For now that is a motivating factor to not bother, so maybe itād help you too.
Hopefully Ill sleep better tonight because my sleep has been rather disrupted lately.
January 8, 2019 at 12:42 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #273205ShelbyvilleParticipantThanks for saying that Kkasxo. Itās true, I must admit it, even if Iām scared to. The absolute crippling need to contact him is not so strong at the moment. So Iāll take whatever positives I can!
Itās very difficult for you to make any progress when your ex wonāt back off slightly and give you space. I know he canāt bare whatās been going on, but you have asked for space and he should respect that enough to allow you do what you need to do to feel any bit better rather than trying to satiate his own need to reach out to you and make him feel better.
Itās fantastic heās reaching out for help, sounds like he definitely needs it too, letās hope he follows through. I just think of my ex, who also reached out but then bailed on the idea.
Your friend is spot on. You donāt give yourself enough credit. There is NO WAY Iād be half as good as you are at surviving if I were in your position- thatās the truth. Well done. Well well done. Give yourself some praise- for a change- see how it feels.
I hope the consultation goes well tomorrow. Iām happy with my hair this eve so thatās another thing taken care of for a while at least. Iām a little anxious about an anniversary of someone very close coming up this weekend and meeting everyone in one place for a memorial. People I havenāt seen in a while who will ask where is my ex. The thoughts of it and also the thoughts of such a sad event and heās not there to support me. Itās sad. But Iāll try and keep the chin up.
January 8, 2019 at 7:40 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #273007ShelbyvilleParticipantPanic attacks are the worst. Especially in a public setting. I once had one at a gig, after our first break up and the openness of where you are increases the anxiety of the attack because youāre Ā conscious of it. My therapist says to say, calmly, ok Shelby, youāre panicking, itās fine, Iām completwly safe. Nothing can harm me. It will pass in a few mins. I dunno if that will help but worth a try.
Youāre going through a lot, no wonder panic attacks come on. I always felt though, that I got panic attacks when I would be unknowingly suppressing and emotion. I felt the hurt would be too much and next thing it was like it would just bubble out of me, overflowing in a way, in the form of a panic attack.
Im going to go each day that I can cope without contacting him, without contacting him. I will deal with the day I do want to contact him if and when it arises. Thatās all I can do for now. Not very forward thinking or progressive in a way for me to seek true happiness but sometimes maintaining the status quo is an achievement.
You are alive, Kkasxo, whatever youāve been through has not killed you yet? Iād call that natural survival instinct. Youāre surviving- maybe not fantastically, but who is really fantastic every day in this life?!!! No-one, despite what Instagram might try to portray!
That procedure sounds like magic! I just canāt imagine how it works without surgery! I would absolutely love to know how you get on. I feel like going off and researching it now myself!!!
January 8, 2019 at 5:14 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272967ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Yes I am now going to my sister’s hairdresser so I’m happy enough with the results, so it’ll do for now! I’m having a low moment myself today. I had to drive a colleague to a meeting earlier and I passed by lots of places I frequented with my ex and it just hurt, still hurts. I just want to go back to being an ‘us’, it just seems like such a waste and a pity to me.
Well done on each time you resist contacting your ex. It’s not at all silly to want to contact him, on the contrary, it seems completely normal as he has been the one to offer you comfort in your times of need for some years and he knows everything you are going through at the moment, more than anyone else in a way, so you want to speak to someone who can relate exactly. However in this instance, that person is not the one who can solve this. Only you can work it out with the support of those who truly want what’s best for YOU.
I’m a complete rookie….but can you tell me what non-surgical reshaping is????!!!! I’ve never heard of it but it sounds like something I could really use!
January 8, 2019 at 3:08 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272961ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I have to say I really believe a lot of my emotion is connected to my hormones, so I have a suspicion my end of the world prophesying will return in the coming weeks! But right now, I’m actually happy to not look too far forward, if today is a good day, I think…okay….let’s work with this day then. I’ll worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. A form of mindfulness I guess!
I would imagine your therapist could discuss PTSD with you, does it have to be a medical doctor thing? I don’t know much about it so perhaps you’re right, but worth mentioning to your therapist. I ABSOLUTELY know what you mean about the wobbles when idle. I’m the same, I nearly crawl the walls. That’s why my illness last week took such a toll because I couldn’t move therefore had nothing to do but think. It’s normal and natural, but a huge pat on the back for not contacting him. Because you’re right…..what would lambasting him do? He apparently has already expressed so much remorse and can’t unchange what has happened, so it would just be hamster wheel where you would not be satisfied at the end of it again.
It does show how much anger you have though. That’s all part of the process and working through that in therapy might also help you let some of it go, or move on. Look how much stuff you did yesterday for someone who feels they are a shell of their former self. People who can’t get up off the floor, who never leave their bedroom would not be able to do what you did yesterday afternoon – truly – so take that as evidence that you’re coping.
Anytime you have a wobble, journal and right on the forum if you like. I’ll get back to you as soon as I see the message and others may be online too at that time, we can be your life buoys when you’re on the edge.
Today I’m getting my hair done to try and make an effort to make myself feel better but I’ve had a bad headache all morning from not having slept well last night, so I’m not as enthusiastic now!
January 7, 2019 at 12:36 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272861ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I absolutely understand what you mean when you describe the shut down. Makes total sense, especially when our brain is an entity that is there to protect us. Therapy can be great because there is no judgement, no hurt caused etc by telling a complete stranger who is just there to help. I find the things I learn in therapy seeping into all aspects of my life. Psychology to me really is mind blowing.
Having said that, I told my therapist last wk that I donāt want to be in therapy for years and iād like to be off the anti anxiety medication and not need it some day. He reassured me that thatās very achievable.
Tonight I miss my ex again, but I feel distant from the situation at the moment- maybe my form of shutdown. The only phrase I can think of to describe myself lately is āIām neither here nor thereā….. it just means I dunno what I think or feel as such at the moment.
The trauma obviously has had a profound impact on you, I wonder would any therapies for PTSD be of any use? Btw, I donāt mean to bring it up to be a trigger for you, please feel free to talk about it as little or as much as you feel comfortable with. I think since I started posting I too have seen a change in you. You initially were solely surviving the break up and just managing. You are now faced with an avalanche of so much more and youāre coping better than when it was just the breakup, whether or not you can see that. You now are facing a multitude and understand yourself better in some ways. I hope that gives you some hope, however small.
January 7, 2019 at 7:23 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272775ShelbyvilleParticipantIām missing my ex a lot, but similar to periods Iāve had over the past couple of months, itās fuzzy again in my head, I canāt remember being with him as such. I very much think this is a coping mechanism of grief and that it gives us reprieves from time to time to allow our stress system to settle a bit.
But look, Iām going with it. If I donāt feel like contacting him this week, then so be it. One day at a time!
I know how much you want to protect your family from pain. I can totally understand that. My therapist would usually say to me, are you trying to protect THEM from pain or yourself? He always tries to get me to explore different aspects of what I might had viewed as a straight forward idea.
Humans can recover from trauma. I know you will. I just know it. When you are 30 years old, I genuinely feel you will be looking back at this phase as if it were almost a dream and it didnāt happen to you. This too shall pass. That date will pass. Remember, itās a date. It cannot hurt you. It is a day like the one before and the one after. What it will probably do is remind you of the trauma bringing up pain, that will need to be expressed at some point, be it now or 50 years time.
I completely understand the blame thing. Iām so mad at my ex that sometimes I want to meet him to berate for shattering my heart and my life. But there are always two people involved so Iāve been trying to look inward a lot more lately. Not that Iām discovering much, but I canāt figure out the outside world sometimes, including my ex, so Iāve nowt else to do so Iāve been doing a little introspection! Iām sceptical!
January 7, 2019 at 6:29 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272761ShelbyvilleParticipantI don’t know if I have actually grown or progressed as such. This is just a week where I’m a little more rational, but honestly, I think it could all be hormones. I really want to be with my ex, I’ll not deny that, the only reason I want to be self sufficient on my own is that I and those who love me CANNOT go through another breakdown with me. So I need to be stronger. We’ll see. I may cave in again. We spoke on NYE when he agreed to meet up in the coming week, but now I haven’t contacted him and kind of don’t want to in a way. My therapist had said that meeting him last time gave me more of an idea of where things lay, so in that sense it wasn’t a bad decision. So maybe, I am realising where things lie and now I don’t want to meet him because I don’t want my suspicions confirmed. Quite plausible for me if I’m honest.
Honestly Kkasxo, I would be there with you on the upcoming date if I could. You need kindness and understanding and support, so whatever I can give you online here, I will do. It is noble of you to want to protect your family, a truly kind person, an empath. Can i just throw in a little thorn? That is you again putting others needs before your own. You shouldn’t really be wearing that burden. My sister was so upset at my distress last autumn and she is pregnant so she was even more torn up and emotional and I worried about burdening her so much, but one day she said to me, ‘look, you need support, that’s what family is for. I care about you and want to help you so don’t worry about me or burdening me. If it gets too much for me on any given day or week, then I will tell you and I will look after myself first and there will be plenty other family members to step in until I’m strong enough again” and when she said that, it really put my mind at ease and eased some of the guilt.
I don’t think you will be as bad for this date as you are perhaps predicting. It will be horrendous, but you’re not the same woman you were last summer, you survived the darkest of hours….that means you’re stronger, it’s a fact, whether you acknowledge it or not. You also have a therapist to keep you on track and all of us on here who you can talk to day or night. Talking about it with your therapist, over time, will help you heal. You will heal, you’re self aware enough to get help and you’re strong and astute, though I completely understand you feel broken today.
As for work – it’s Jan 7th…..nobody is doing anything in work today!!!!!
January 7, 2019 at 4:05 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272729ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Okay, so take a break. From the analysis, from the pain, from everything. I think you deserve a break, if only for 15mins. Focus on your work and say when thoughts about the situation crop up, ānot nowā. It doesnāt mean you wonāt think about it later, but itās a lot to take in right now and there is no point spiralling.
I can understand that you feel the two of you are in your own world, connected by trauma. But actually maybe itās time to widen that circle. Other people can actually help you heal. Your therapist, your support system, itās actually not true that you need each other, believe it or not, it may feel like that of course, I understand, but thatās because ye have kept it to yourself.
Take for example an abusive relationship – just as an example. I asked my therapist before why I canāt manage more self esteem and walk away. He says he has had the most beautiful inteelingent women in the world come to him for help after their partners beat them around the house but they STILL love them and canāt imagine leaving them. Love is love, whatever attachments it may create. However he would explain that those women donāt need their partners to get through the period, although, they would argue that they do and they are not responsible for helping their partners get through obvious massive issues either.
Of course, itās not a comparison on par with your situation, but my therapist just explains that even women who are being physically abused find it difficult to let go of someone they love or loved.
If you want a totally objective view and remember, I will support ANY path forward you take, but I think itās not good for you in the long term to be in contact or have anything to do with him for the moment. I think your life would change if you could achieve stability and contentment on your own first. Not to say, ye canāt reunite in the future, but imagine spending your whole life depending on another person to exist or survive. Thatās going to always create anxiety in the sense that you know you are tethered to someone to survive, who can always leave, die, etc and then youāre shattered again. There would always be a subconscious anxiety there.
These are all just some points while Iām in a rational frame of mind, but it doesnāt usually last long!!! I massively want to get back with my ex still but I do have the caveat in the background that I would like to be self sufficient before I do so I donāt fall apart again if it happened again.
At this point, maybe you could speak to family. Tell them youāre struggling, youād be surprised who steps up. Also, ask your therapist to give you coping tools too, not just analysis. And hopefully that will give you a compass.
Well done for getting to work, Iām in a meeting all morning, but at least itās a distraction!
January 7, 2019 at 2:42 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272725ShelbyvilleParticipantHi there,
Michelle, your contributions are ALWAYS most welcome and thank you for taking the time to consider our situations and offer guidance and advice. Like Kkasxo, I get a small glimmer of hope that I may make it through, given that you have done so.
Kkasxo,
Don’t be embarrassed? Who are you embarrassed around? Us? Surely not. Your friend? She doesn’t seem to be judging you. Embarrassment can only be caused around other people. One cannot be embarrassed on one’s own, so you maybe give too much weight to what other people think. A part of you wanted to try again with your ex because you love him. That was a part of you who choose to do that, a part of you. And don’t we have to love ALL parts of ourselves? Isn’t that self-love? The only one criticising the decision is yourself….or rather, your ‘Martha’ equivalent……the mean self critical voice. You did what you had to do at various times. Who is to say a decision is a bad one or a good one…my therapist always quotes and old fable which says any decision in life….whatever it may be….”good or bad, who’s to say”. If you did not do what you did, you may not have processed the way you needed to. To learn what you needed to learn.
I’m consciously trying to not beat myself as much over the decisions Im making lately. I feel if I’m going to make them anyway, how does been hard on myself help? It doesn’t. It just makes my anxiety worse.
Did you make it to work today?
January 6, 2019 at 4:47 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272669ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I canāt imagine what trauma you have been through, so I can only offer advice about the date. You already recognise that it will be a trigger- well done. Thatās pro-active and self awareness. I would ask your therapist for some coping tools which will help you be more self sufficient as you approach that date.
Your friend sounds incredible and very understanding and caring- someone great in your corner can mean the world. I donāt know much about trauma bonding but it does seem that you have lost the energy for a romantic relationship with your ex. You have indeed grown and as my therapist says, when one person in a relationship grows and the other doesnāt, itās like trying to fly a plane with one wing. However, definitely explore the idea of that relationship and its connection to the trauma.
Also, you are not the same person you were last summer. Back then, you were not going to therapy, you had far less time to process everything and it was all new and a shock. You have more resilience now, by the very fact that youāve survived until now. Whether or not you choose to see that doesnāt matter, it is so!
Oh and youāre NOT stupid. But your critical voice is alive and well I see an beating the crap out of you!! Nope, nothing in our communication has ever led me to the notion that youāre a stupid woman. Far from it. Youāre naturally curious and self aware and figuring out an incredibly difficult situation as an empathetic, sensitive person. So no more beating yourself up. Give yourself a pep talk every day and say, ok, I made it to today, who would have thought that when I was in the depths of despair last year. But here I am. Natural survival instinct will kick in. You might have dark thoughts and yet look…..here you are…..still surviving. Instinct.
January 6, 2019 at 1:10 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #272613ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
You are you and she is she. Of course there are people in this world who get over breakups perhaps less painfully than you or I, but there are plenty just like us.
You love him more than anyone you have ever loved and the carpet has been pulled from under you. Itās normal and natural to express pain, to feel lost, to find it difficult to cope. Therapy has taught me that. I often ask my therapist why Iām suffering so badly and other people cope better and he says, Iām a highly sensitive person who just had the equivalent of a bus hitting me. If it were a bus, Iād be in traction in hospital for a long time, but when itās emotional injury, weāre just supposed to smile and carry on? No, weāre entitled to our misery and no more berating yourself. Give your critical voice a name & personality. Mine is Martha….and sheās a right bee with an itch. So Iām glad your friend is coping how she knows best, but you cope how you know best.
Again, the questioning is normal. Once a decision is made, the consequences of that decision then unfold- the withdrawal. Yuck, but inevitable. I know I massively massively miss my ex, but I think Iāve managed to get through the brain chemistry withdrawal part, where you NEED to be with them, see them, talk to them etc. I say that now, but that could change again for me tomorrow.
My two cents aināt worth much, but tbh, I think you made the right decision. For you, at that time. You HAVE been drained and exhausted and that didnāt involve a lot of true happiness. Iām not saying it can or canāt work out ever, but just for now, you went with the best decision you could based on the information available to you and your feelings.
Why are you doing this to yourself you ask? Because you love him, are very attached to him and want back what you once had. All natural reactions, so please go easier on yourself. Youāre human and sensitive and kind and doing the best you can. x
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