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He is looking for your forgiveness/blessing so that HE can move on without guilt.
I’m of the opinion that you don’t necessarily need to forgive everyone in life. Some actions are unforgivable. Don’t do anything to accommodate his needs any more, always focus on yourself first. I still feel he is being manipulative with all this (as was my ex, it’s predictable behaviour).
MichelleParticipant“All in all i still cant tolarate what he did to me.”
Good. You should never tolerate that behaviour from anyone, ever. You didn’t deserve it, nor do you deserve the pain you are feeling now. Never lose sight that this is on HIM and not you. You have done nothing.
Block his social media. This is an important step. Otherwise you will keep creeping on things that your heart doesn’t need to see.
MichelleParticipantSierra – you won’t regret it. You may be sad in the short-term, but you are young and have a lifetime of dating and relationships to explore. You need to find out what works for you and what doesn’t. I can tell as a distant observer that this current relationship will be no good for you. This boy is a narcissist (and misogynist and racist) and will leave you riddled with self-esteem issues if you continue it for too long.
MichelleParticipantMisogynistic, racist and controlling? This guy has half the “bad boyfriend” squares on bingo filled up.
You’re young. Have fun. Learn to recognize that you are worth better than the treatment you are getting.
MichelleParticipant“To be honest I have considered ending it with him because of his work schedule. Now this may sound selfish of me. But he has 2 nights a week when he hangs out with his friends. My thought process is so if you can carve out that time for them then why can’t you do the same for me. Once a week for an hour on video just so we can see each other and catch up. He hasn’t been able to do it. Maybe he’s done it once since he travelled. This makes me feel unimportant.”
To be honest, I’d feel the same way and I agree that one can find time for what they feel is important to them.
My advice would be to have a non-exclusive relationship until he returns and then see what happens. Long distance relationships are not easy. It sounds like you are giving more towards it than he is.
MichelleParticipantIf blocking would set a healthy boundary for yourself, then I don’t see anything wrong with it. If it helps you take care of YOU, then don’t feel guilty about doing it. I blocked an ex last year after I saw him spying on my social accounts. The blocking helped me move forward and gave a signal that I no longer welcome certain things in my life.
MichelleParticipantReading through your post, I see a lot of red flags. He doesn’t sound like a trustworthy character and other, questionable personality traits are brushed off as being flaky. If you are already having doubts, which I think you are, then I feel your intuition is warning you. A lifetime of this will not be good for your wellbeing.
MichelleParticipantExactly what Anita said. You have set boundaries (which is an important thing to learn in life) and he is disrespecting them … and you. Don’t feel bad. Just continue to stand up for yourself and your own wellbeing.
MichelleParticipantIt honestly wouldn’t have mattered that much Risha. In your culture, the parents have more pull than one would imagine. If he is close to them, you never would have ended up with him anyway. I know you hurt. And, from personal experience, I know this will be on your mind for awhile. I’m two years out from my similar relationship and I still think about it and the pain that was caused me. It was life-changing. Go easy on yourself. Love yourself. Be kind to yourself. Learn to set boundaries moving forward. This has been helpful towards me.
You can look back and reflect on the time you shared together. I’m sure you hold some good memories. There is the phrase “don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened”. His intentions may not have been always clear (I am of the camp that he was probably manipulative and deceitful in some capacity towards you) but you have shown that YOU are capable of love, faith and honesty. There is someone out there in this universe that is worthy of being on the receiving end of it.
As others have mentioned, having him enter your space in the manner he is will not help you moving forward. I would advise you to block him and get supervisors involved if his antics continue at work. You’re stronger than you think. Close the door and don’t look back.
MichelleParticipantYou are a compassionate person, and that is absolutely admirable, but you need to set boundaries for yourself. Never ignore your own self-care when giving to others. There should always be a balance.
It sounds like your sister has a few lessons she needs to learn in life. You won’t always be there to carry her through it.
October 24, 2018 at 5:31 pm in reply to: 2 different men, 2 different histories, choice to make #233103MichelleParticipantI think the answer is obvious.
Man #1 might not be a perfect match, but it is already apparent that Man #2 isn’t. I would cut my losses and explore the first guy further. However, I would go into it with no expectations realizing that sometimes it is better to be single than stay with someone just for the sake of being in a relationship. The right person will eventually enter your life.
Edited to add: you can love someone without feeling obligated to stay in a romantic relationship with them.
- This reply was modified 6 years ago by Michelle.
MichelleParticipantI apologize if it seemed that way. My intention was not to rub anything in your face.
I do feel as though you aren’t listening to advice you are being given though, which was the purpose of sharing your story on the forum. By making poor decisions, you will continue to have poor outcomes (and be caught up in this mess when you really should be focused on moving on). It would seem that you want validation that he wants you. That he loves you and will leave his wife for you. No stranger on the internet can answer this, only him. We are basing our responses on personal experience. He is not going to leave her. He has had opportunity to do that and has failed to. You need to move on. His midnight messages are nothing but manipulation on both you and the wife.
I would also suggest professional counselling for what brought you to this place in life. I feel you don’t love yourself and you aren’t valuing your worth. That is a bigger issue that I would focus on beyond this “man” and the problems he brings into your life.
But you need to be open to reflection and what it might open in your life.
Take care
MichelleParticipantI’m going to write a response … but you probably aren’t going to like it. I do hope, however, that is provides a sense of what this looks like from the outside.
I feel a part of you is getting your self-esteem from this interaction with him and that is unhealthy. That is why you haven’t blocked his number and still reply to his communication. It is feeding something within you, even though by all accounts the guy is a piece of crap. Why haven’t you blocked him? Why invite this drama and disrespect into your life? You will never move on, caught continuously between thinking maybe—just maybe—he will leave his wife now … but he won’t. Don’t fool yourself. He’s having his cake and eating it too. Let this continue and you will be strung along for months/years with nothing to show for it at the end of the day.
You write a lot of negative comments about his wife but … that IS his wife and you are a mistress. Fact. And it probably isn’t going to change. He is choosing her. You are a convenience (both with sex and, previously, money). Don’t you think you are worth more than that? Forget focusing on this relationship, you need to learn to love yourself.
I read your recent posts and I feel sad because no one should live like this. This is consuming your mind and thoughts and causing you to react poorly. Why trash the wife? You should be trashing him!!!
MichelleParticipantYour story makes a lot of sense to me as I’ve always seen myself in the same way. I was always close to my father; had a strained relationship with my mother because of mental illness that she struggles with. About a decade ago, I moved to a new city. At first it felt like an opportunity for me to start a new chapter. But in that same decade, my father passed away somewhat unexpectedly (diagnosed with terminal cancer and died a few months later), major rifts in my extended family occurred and I was in two back-to-back relationships that were toxic (one, downright abusive both physically and emotionally). All of these things combined have led to a “new me”. One who is, as you state, not very trusting of people, has few real friends, and feels the world is much darker than I realized. I have struggled with this.
“I am now finding myself in a position where I do not have my boyfriend in my life anymore (and my hurt is tempting me to back-peddle because I’m scared and lonely), in addition to this my family aren’t really there for me in an emotional sense and I am in a new city and struggling to socialise.”
My first piece of advice would be to not back-peddle. There is a reason your relationship ended. And just because you identify as a “lone wolf” does not mean you will be lonely or literally alone for the rest of your life. You will find your tribe. One way I managed to find community is online through forums such as this. Just the aspect of feeling like you are being listened to and can share a common experience with someone else is powerful. Don’t discredit something like this just because it’s in the virtual world. The people you meet and the conversation you share can build yourself up. Whenever you are feeling lonely or down, I encourage you to reach out.
Journalling might also be a good way for you to get through your thoughts/feelings and reflect on them. I have been doing this for ten years as well and going to back to read about my growth has aided my self-esteem.
“How do I meet people? How do I trust people? I am unsure if it is the economic climate or brexit atm but I am suddenly feeling like the world is a lot more dangerous than I did five years ago. I feel like as an individual I am a target.”
In my situation, it’s cliché but I started taking up new hobbies such as salsa dancing. At a class, I met my current boyfriend. We’ve been together for three years and he has been a tremendous influence on my life for the positive. I opened up to him slowly … but only after I became comfortable with myself. I feel you might have to do this. It sounds like you need to build up your self-esteem. See if there are some meet-up groups in your area or classes that might interest you and see if you can socialize through that—at your own pace. Heed your intuitions with people. Don’t ignore red flags. You will eventually start filtering out bad seeds and making real-world relationships like the ones you have online. Through that just continue to build your self-esteem.
Even though it seems harder to mine, I feel like there still is some good in the world. Turn off the news (or take extended breaks from it). Focus on happiness, whether that be puppies or a simple appreciation of a rainbow. And remember that all things pass eventually.
MichelleParticipantSomeone – you’re awesome and I’m sure you would make all of us feel better 🙂
Risha – don’t reply further. He feels guilty and is trying to make himself feel better by getting you to admit that you are okay and accepting of his apology. It’s a manipulative tactic. I, personally, would not accept his apology. This is a big betrayal. It’s not a small thing. This is something that has destroyed your confidence and self-esteem, wasted years of your life that could have been better spent elsewhere, and honestly will affect how trusting you are towards other men in the future (which could also end up holding you back). He was WILLINGLY deceitful towards you. This isn’t a good person and he shouldn’t get off easy. My only concern right now is you and how I can help you move forward as best as possible. Keep letting your emotions out. They will be there for awhile. Start building yourself up in different ways. Learn something new. Start a new hobby. Read. Write. Perhaps plan a solo trip (this was most beneficial to me). Fall in love with yourself again. It is only through this that you will move on.
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