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December 27, 2013 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Letting go, overbearing mother, and some things about karma #47698PriscillaParticipant
Kinny,
What an unbelievably, beautifully-written reply. I am blubbering as I’m reading it because you touched on so many things I can relate to, perhaps because you drew them from personal experience. Not to sound too gushy but I’m seriously considering printing it and keep it with me at all times to read whenever I feel down because it is not only applicable to that particular incident but also to my life in general.
Fixating on the past (especially the negative experiences) is my major character flaw that I’ve been trying to conquer for some time now. I am stuck in the ‘knowing’ phase where I know what I’m supposed to do, only I don’t feel them in my heart therefore I’ve been delaying, hesitating.
Some of the things you mentioned really help me gain some insights / clarity, some perhaps I’ve known them all along, it’s just that I didn’t know how to put them into words. It’s funny how when you’re able to put them into words, seeing those words and reading them out loud, it just hits you. It opens your eyes and your mind.
Some of the highlights that I really love:
– How in every other paragraph you remind me of the all-inclusive nature of life’s ups and downs. Sometimes when we indulge in self-pity, we always make ourselves out to be the victims. It’s good to be reminded that everybody without exception has experienced life’s ups and downs at some point in their lives, that they have hurt as well as gotten hurt. No one is exempt.
– There’s a cycle of negativity passed down from one person to another and you have to be willing and consciously break free from that chain. It’s a kind of selfless act because instead of passing down the pain, you absorb it. It’s a very tough thing to do but if you can do it sincerely, I believe it will be so liberating.
– We’re not all-knowing. Oh, how empowering and liberating is this knowledge! I have to admit, sometimes I let small, super trivial things irk me to no end, even years after. This enlightenment eliminates almost all of them because with small annoyances such as unpleasant encounters with rude shopkeepers, you just don’t have enough backstory to understand why this person does one thing or another. There’s simply too little data to compute so why obsess over it. By comprehending this knowledge, I sorta ensure myself that things will always makes sense, I just don’t know the whole story.
– To always consider the grander scheme of things. People have the tendency to think that the world revolves around them, myself included. I now realize that by playing victims, we positioned ourselves as the center of the universe. Whaddya know, I employ the same self-importance as Lisa’s mom. Eye-opening, huh?
– Also in the grander scheme of things, things happen so that everyone involved can learn a lesson from it. Everyone has their roles. I happen to be assigned as the casualty. So not fun. However, I’d like to give my two cents on how to approach this seemingly unfair scheme: Playing the casualty is not for the faint of heart and it takes a tough cookie to be able to go through all this and emerge victorious so in a way, it’s the universe’s way of saying ‘you’re strong’ or ‘I believe you can make it through’
– Thanks for acknowledging I was the casualty. It means a lot, it validates all the pain and humiliation I went through.
– Love that bit about your uber-logical friend, that nice little token of scissors to remind you to always forgive, and thanks for illustrating how waiting to be vindicated won’t do me any good.
Actually there are a lot more that resonate with me but then this entry will be getting longer and longer so I’m just gonna end this post right here. Kinny, thank you again for sharing, they really help a lot. Words can’t express my gratitude enough 🙂
December 26, 2013 at 10:37 pm in reply to: Letting go, overbearing mother, and some things about karma #47634PriscillaParticipantHi Fran, I agree that realizing happiness is a choice is very empowering. However, practicing it takes some effort of which I haven’t mastered. How do you learn to conquer your ego? I think I am stuck in this stage. I can process my feelings logically however in the end it will always get overruled by my emotions. I hate it. I hate how I can dwell on things that happened in the past even though they have no present and direct impact whatsoever on my life right now. I know I am the one who gives it the power to ruin my life yet I can’t stop.
I am stuck in this ‘knowing’ stage. I know happiness is a choice, I know I have to accept that I can’t change the past, I know what I’m supposed to do yet I am not doing them. When I choose to be happy, I don’t really feel it. Instead, I feel like I’m faking it and in the end it makes me more angry. I haven’t reached that state of enlightenment yet. Can you share how you overcame these roadblocks?
December 26, 2013 at 7:59 pm in reply to: Letting go, overbearing mother, and some things about karma #47622PriscillaParticipantHi Kinny,
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ve actually been wanting to try meditation for some time but just didn’t know where to start.
And can I just your suggestion about “I can be happy today even if…” is brilliant. I think it’s liberating. I’ve become aware of my feelings but I’ve just been stuck ever since, didn’t know how to move to the next step. I think this could be it. As for your pointers:
1. I have a Twitter account exactly for this purpose! I don’t follow or be followed by anyone. I simply would use it as an emotional dump whenever I feel sad, angry, bitter, or even ecstatic. It does help.
2. A lot of elements in this incident irked me in the beginning but as I learned and grew more mature over the years, one by one they disappeared. For example, I used to be angry at Lisa for having been born rich and being happy about it but then I looked at myself and I also had a pretty good life. I’m sure there are people who are less fortunate than I am and I’m sure as hell it won’t be fun having them throwing shade at me simply for being born into my life. I couldn’t choose the family I was being born into, neither could Lisa, so I dropped the case.
Now, I am left with what I think are more valid grudges that need to be addressed because I really, truthfully, honestly want to break free from those.
Those things that still irk me are:
– That nasty bitch aka Lisa’s mom. She’s the type of woman who will make your life a living hell lest she gets her way, my guess is that she has always been that way her whole life. She does that to the point where people would just give in to her every whim in order to be spared the agony of her wrath. In movies, bad karma would always befall characters like her. I hate how people talk about right and wrong but when faced with a real situation, they always falter. This is not right. Somebody has to stand up and school her, give her a lesson in humility.
On a more selfish note, I’m not gonna lie, I want them to feel the humiliation that I felt. I want them to realize they’re not the most important people on earth as they make themselves out to be. I want it to hit them in the face when they least expect it. And again, hating on a second grader? WTF. I can’t even.
– How Lisa doesn’t seem to realize that she’s hurt me and how she seems to be able to move on with her life happily even though she’s wronged some people. My take on this is, she knows she’s well-loved and that she has her mom to ensure nobody dares to ‘unlove’ her so she never has the motivation to right her wrongs. She knows it won’t hurt her character.
– The #1 thing that irks me is how all the key people in this incident never bothered to do the right thing. Like the teachers, for example, even if they had to give in to that nasty bitch’s wrath and conducted a stupid fake play of me apologizing to Lisa, I just wish some of them would pull me aside afterwards and ensure if I was okay. How about Lisa’s father? He was the only people with enough influence to can actually knock some sense into that bitch. Granted, he was nice to me throughout, but still, where was he?
December 26, 2013 at 6:17 pm in reply to: Letting go, overbearing mother, and some things about karma #47621PriscillaParticipantHi Jones,
Yeah, I, too, was left to my own devices by my parents from an early age and I love it. They didn’t coddle me. When that nasty bitch picked Lisa up into her arms as she was crying, I remember standing there looking at them like they were weirdos. My parents stopped doing that when I entered elementary school.
Well, I don’t really carry this hate. I mean, I don’t feel it all the time and most times I can dismiss it as something silly but then there are times where you just can’t help but mulling over this feeling of being wronged. It’s almost sado-masochistic, I know I can only feel pain and anguish from remembering what happened yet I allow myself to do that anyway. I don’t know why I do this.
Forgiving her? Why? For all I know she doesn’t even know she’s hurt me. I know forgiveness is power but I’m just not on that level yet. I want to, though, but I want my forgiveness to be natural and real, not forced and faked for the sake of moving on.
Shortly after what happened, my family moved to another town. Lisa and her family is now as far removed as they can be from my life yet I still allow this single incident to affect my life. It’s super pathetic and I really need to break free from this grudge that’s why I started this thread. I really hope someone who might have gone through something similar could share some pointers.
Thanks for replying!
December 26, 2013 at 5:45 pm in reply to: Letting go, overbearing mother, and some things about karma #47619PriscillaParticipantHi Maureen, thanks for sharing.
It’s funny how we can recognize that holding a grudge is a bad thing yet we still allow ourselves to be dragged into it whenever we’re faced with a specific situation, isn’t it? I know I have to let go, move on, and Lisa and her family is now as far removed as they can be from my life but I still allow them to affect my life in some ways. I realize how pathetic that is, truly pathetic, yet sometimes I can’t help it. I’m getting there, though. I think bit by bit I’m chipping away this unbelievably unnecessary mental blocking, hopefully I can be totally free of this grudge one day.
Happy Christmas to you, too!
PriscillaParticipantHi Pedro, sometimes I also feel that way. You are correct, though, it is a matter of mindset. I’ve found that by acknowledging that you are just one person helps a lot. Also, by believing that every single act of kindness count, no matter how trivial it might seem. I’ve also realized the depressed feeling comes from thinking you’re just one person against the world. It helps to think that there are many like yourself also doing the best they can to bring some good to the world.
PriscillaParticipantThanks for the kind words and encouragement. I truly do wanna get better. I usually cope with my lack of male figure by fantasizing about this other life of me where they exist, it provides me with an instant relief but not sure whether it’s healthy in the long run.
I haven’t mustered up enough courage to see a therapist, I’m always worried when I interact with others. I’d read too much into things: “he doesn’t treat my problems with regards”, “he’s too nice”, “he’s indifferent” Basically, it’s a damned if I do, damned if I don’t situation.
Daddy issues mean low self-esteem, and I think people who experience low self-esteem can vouch for me how daunting a simple interaction such as calling someone could be. I’d over-think it afterwards. “did I sound too eager? too aloof? was I too nice? too arrogant?” it goes on and on and on. Everyday, I remind myself to be less neurotic, negative encounters don’t mean a rejection of myself as a person. Likewise, positive encounters need not be feared. Most of the time, they’re just what they are: encounters.
PriscillaParticipantHi, thank you for all the beautiful insights.
I feel like I need to vent and want to elaborate a bit as to what happened to me: My parents are emotionally distant. My dad is a misogynist and when I was little, I sensed this and consequently toned down my femininity to appease him. If you watch How I Met Your Mother, I’m just like the Robin character.
My dad ruled with an iron fist. If me and my sister misbehaved, he’d hit us but not our brother. During my teenage years, he added verbal abuse to his portfolio, some of the highlights including ‘frog face’ and ‘fat bag’. He also began supplying me with laxatives, fat blockers, and diet pills. Some of the pills later were being banned in other countries for causing death but he still insisted that I took them. He also abandoned our dogs after he deemed them to be no longer of use to him due to ailments or old age. I would come home from school and found them no longer there.
One night, for whatever reason, he went mad and beat me more than usual that my mom had to pull him back, crying (she usually just stayed away). After that, I stopped talking to him. We were living under the same roof and I just simply refused to talk to him. Even when we went out to a restaurant, I would just sit there, ate my food and refused to acknowledge him. It was my way of saying “You can’t expect me to act like nothing has happened. You have to apologize and make things right!” This went on for about 7 years, facilitated by my mother who was most concerned with keeping up appearances.
During this time, I was accepted to and graduated from Harvard. Ivy leagues education is something that has been ingrained in my family and a source of pride for him (both my parents went to an Ivy League school) and he missed the experience of having a daughter who go there because he was too proud. Shortly after graduation, I got a job in another country and moved there. It was around this time that I decided to end my feud with him. My strength and courage to do this came from being in a loving relationship with my gf and my sense of accomplishment. I was confident enough that I’d be able to let him back into my life without losing control over it to him.
Few years ago, my dad came down with an unknown ailment and had to be hospitalized. I flew back home and in the hospital, I embraced him and kissed his cheek and caressed his hair, something that if I had done in the past, would have made me convulsed uncontrollably from sheer awkwardness. His reaction was totally unexpected: there was a silence, then he began to sob. His lips quivered as he struggled so hard to contain his emotions. My mother was in the room and she, too, was tearing up. It was one of those profound moments in your life that can’t be expressed with words.
However, I’m sorry to report that you can’t teach old dogs new tricks. After all the dust has settled, he reverted to his old tricks. Granted, he doesn’t verbally or physically abuse me anymore, he is still imposing his thoughts and logics on me. He once told me to drink beer to lose weight because he said it helps trapping the fat. I fell sick earlier this year and my parents took care of me, afterwards, he started peddling diet pills to me again, thinking it was an okay thing to do since they took care of me. Sigh.
As I am in the middle of a long and arduous journey towards forgiveness and letting go, I guess my point of posting is, I’d like to know what to do in those darker hours when you can’t help but letting your issues get to you. Like, I’d be okay most days but I’d unravel into this monster in a heartbeat when I’m exposed to certain trigger / stimuli (as Matt termed it). I’d heard beautiful father-daughter stories and I’d just lash out on my gf big time. Sometimes I’d just cry for no reason and she has to console me even though it has nothing to do with her. Basically, I just want to be a normal person with normal emotional reactions to things.
PriscillaParticipantHi Surabhi!
First, a big hug for you!
Second, I know what you’re going through because I went through similar predicament when I was younger. I think you’re yearning for some love in your life and I know it sucks when the very people that are supposed to love you hurt you instead.
Now, I’m 27 years old. Ten years ago, I was where you are right now. My parents were emotionally distant (they still are), me and my siblings couldn’t care less about each other because they have also been depraved of love. My father and my brother beat me and called me fat, ugly, etc and my brother stole my cellphone, twice! And guess what, my parents didn’t believe their holy son could have done such things.
I was depressed, and just like you, I would burst into tears in public places out of nothing. I also cried every night and no one ever approached me to offer some listening ears or a shoulder to cry on. At my worst, every night as I was crying, I’d mumble ‘there’s no hope’ repeatedly to myself like I was in some kind of trance. I began to shut myself from “friends” because they didn’t understand what I was going through or why I was so gloomy all the time. All they saw was this person with dark clouds hanging above her and they wanted nothing to do with it.
Sounds familiar?
So, you mentioned you’re an engineer pursuing your master’s degree? Good. Persevere, Surabhi. Keep calm and persevere.
What got me through my darkest hour was the knowledge that I did well academically, that no matter what, substance will triumph over any superficial things. That, and despite everything, I still want to live a good life.
After graduation, I looked for a job in another country and have been living there since. Now, my way out perhaps doesn’t apply to you, or maybe it does, but no matter what, just persevere. And sometimes it’s good to distance yourself from all the bad influence in your life including your family, if only for a while, to gain some perspectives.
When I shut myself off from my “friends” and other life distractions and became a loner, it might seem counter-intuitive but it has actually done me good because I really had a chance to think about who I was, what I wanted in life, and how I could get them.
Just persevere, Surabhi. Persevere and fight for the life you deserve.
PriscillaParticipantHi there!
May I know where’s your husband’s stance in all this? I mean, I went through something similar with my partner at the start of our relationship but I realize it was because I was worried with the way my partner handled the thing. (FYI, I’m a bisexual woman in a relationship with a lesbian).
She was still in the closet and there was this guy who fell hard for her to the point where he rallied all our friends (we all share mutual friends) to vouch for him. He popped up unannounced at her house, gave her a lot of gifts, and invited her to many events. Despite my chagrin, she always entertained him.
So I told her how I felt and then i found out the reason she had been treating his advances so casually was because she thought nothing of them. I told her it gave the wrong impression to everyone and she agreed to stop entertaining his advances.
Back to your problem, could it be that you feel all this jealousy because you think your husband doesn’t do enough to make it known to you or anyone else for that matter that he chose you? Sometimes men and women think differently and even if he doesn’t think it’s necessary, if it bothers you, then he should do something.
I think we feel all this negative feelings (jealousy, envy, etc.) when we feel threatened that something in our life is at stake. No matter what she does, if you believe in the strength of your family then you shouldn’t be worried.
Hope this helps! =)
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