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Hi Anita,
I’ve been taking the last couple of weeks to read back on these hurtful posts. It has not been an easy task. The anxiety in my mind truly resisted it but I managed to get through our entire thread. I found so many helpful things that did get me along at the time. Some things I still use today. I will not post everything that I pasted but I’ll share some things that stood out.
“Accept it that she had other priorities throughout your life with her and you were far from being the first priority. Accept that in the context of your relationship with her you were not the guilty one. She was. It is not you who failed her. She failed you. Her death doesnāt change this fact”
This is something I think I have worked on and although my brother triggered this wound I think I may have settled it again. Sometimes by rereading these posts and just by my knowledge of what happened. At the moment I am struggling with self blame in a bad way. Not necessarily for my mom just in general. I will tell you about this later in my post.
“TimeĀ to admit defeat.Ā I have. My life too was lived for others, I too invested myĀ life trying to help my motherā¦ my goodness,Ā it still amazes me: zero results,Ā defeat.”
I feel very defeated and especially lately as I realize that I have lived in survival mode but in a very serious way for the last 5 months. Making sure to be “ok” enough to find my way back to family. I still struggle with this even though I am on a self hate rampage for self sabotaging so bad. I don’t mean to say self hate because I love me but so hard to feel that right now.
“donāt evaluate how you are doing in life basedĀ on how you feel, not at this point andĀ notĀ for a longĀ time to come. Like I wrote to you in my last post, distress will beĀ your companion for some time .
Focus on what you do/ how you function, not on how you feel. Evaluate a good day or a bad dayĀ not by how you felt during the day, but by how you functioned that day.”
I absolutely love this advice! I clearly remember having a aha moment when reading this and until this day it has worked but I do need to encourage it more. My brain has been mush lately. I feel like two people. But not just in a distressing way in a very scary confusing feeling like I am crazy way. I am alone, I have a real bad stress response at the moment. I cannot really feel feelings much it is mainly terrible horrendous thoughts over and over and non stop memories. It is like the movie I told you about. It is very serious and makes me consider checking myself in at times. I did read some about you experiencing panic attacks after stopping Klonopin. Were they similar to what I am speaking of? This is what I was speaking of when asking if you understood me. It is not just normal anxiety like I felt before. It is horrendous thoughts back to back sometimes like 90% of my day is run by this and I have to constantly remind myself who I am and why I am here but sometimes I fade and I think I am becoming depressed which hurts!
“Hope is about a life where you are neverĀ abused.Ā To find thatĀ life,Ā you have to give up on and letĀ go ofĀ the comfort mixed in that abuse that you had in your original home.”
I love this! I do believe there is hope out there but am still so focused on my family at time. Even despite reading all of these posts where we discuss the very abuse. I am understanding through studying why I go back to abusers. Not only do I sub consciously believe I deserve it but I often disassociate from the painful feelings and memories which causes me to forget the abuse and reach out for the love again. Codependency is an addiction after all. A love addiction.
“it happens all the time: our emotional experience of childhood gets activated in the present. Those early emotional experiences get well recorded in neuropathways in our brains, thoughts and emotions. AsĀ time goes by, years and decades, we shed our skin but not our brain, it is the same brain, the same recorded experiences and these get reactivated.
Often we forget how we felt when we were children, tryingĀ to rememberā¦ while all along we feel the same way as we did then. Notice how you feel now. This is how you felt then.”
This is what I am learning about in therapy. How this exact experience I am feeling is being replayed from childhood and does not have much to do with current circumstances. Besides that the current triggered the wound.Ā But it is relentless. And seems to only get worse. I have spent thousands of dollars and many many hours in different kinds of therapy for it to only get worse? That is upsetting!!! I am struggling to feel hope about that.
“Donāt panic, you are okay. YouĀ will feel better soon. Function as if you are okay and sooner than later you will feel okay again. Endure the spikes in anxiety, calm yourself best you can when that happens, donāt panic, donāt catastrophize, function sensibly and life will be better.”
Sometimes I cannot function more than work like today when my anxiety is so bad that I am almost bedridden. I really hope you understand this is not an understatement. I am so strong and resilient and have been throughout this terrible time but lately I feel like withering away. How much more can I take. And honestly I don’t know what is next.
“Healing is not about repeating the sameĀ old same old attempts. It is about giving up on what doesnāt work and attempting something new that has a chance to work.”
This is so deep Anita! I think I am leaning toward this. And that is why things are the way they are according to my somatic therapists. She said the racing thoughts are the brains attempt to get me to go back to what is familiar and in it’s eyes “safe”. She said it is just trying to protect us. But damn I fall asleep telling myself I am safe. I know I am not where I want to be meaning without savings, in an apartment I don’t love love and winter coming but the little girl inside is being awfully hard on herself. I feel bad for her. This is how she felt back then. Like she had to be perfect, never good enough. How sad!
“Visiting your older brother and his wife is a bad idea. A modest hotel room in the quite scenery of the desert is a better idea (if you canāt get a refund for the plane ticket). You can arrange to see your older brotherās child if you are there, spend some time with her, but with her only, then leave.”
Boy do I wish I would have listened to this along with many many other posts. Is there a way you can make me listen? lol
āSometimes my boundaries are so good but I do get exhausted always basically having to wall upā- better for a person to not enter a war zone than enter it and defend oneself successfully.
It is possible to be around people who do not intend to āget a rise out of (you)ā, possible to relax when you eventually believe that the person with you will not turn against you.”
I long for the day this is in my life! A day where the people in my life are happy to see me and happy for me and I do not have to defend or be perfect. Lord please bless me with this. I deserve it.
“Look and youĀ will find a pocket of sanity in the world, a refuge, a place of kindness and respect. If you keep looking for it where it is not, of course youĀ will not find it. Look elsewhere, where you didnāt look yet. We donāt have to keep our focus on the family we were born to, we are not owned by our parents or siblings, or by anyone. No need to keep your focus on this one man in Florida. There are other men you didnāt meet yet”
But yet I continue looking for what is familiar? So strange how our systems work. For instance the man I had befriended for 3 months during this struggle I would have never given the time or day. We actually met back in December for dinner. An old friend of mine. I knew at that dinner that I did not want to be with him. I strictly told him I was uninterested. I reached out because I needed somewhere to stay when my carpets were getting done and didn’t want to dish out hotel money again so he offered and I stayed. It was only a friendship but I felt like he wanted more. Months in and recently a few weeks ago I went no contact with him. It was as if I woke up and was like what am I doing? Why am I entertaining this. We have no like interests. Just those same few moments of joy and laughter like family but no common goals or dreams or even perceptions of life. He is bitter and dark and truly was mocking my situation after a while and I did not notice. We would make jokes and I was going along with this. It was funny and I don’t mind laughing at my struggle sometimes but all in all it is not a joke what I have been through. And I am trying to tattoo it in my brain that although a lot of others have been abandoned by family doesn’t make my pain any less!!
Thanks Anita, for months of hanging in there with me and also for my bad grammar in this post.
There is so much more. And I will have to post it in another post. I am tired. I am drained. My body hurts from anxiety. Please pray I wake up sane tomorrow. I never know what another day will bring up. Seriously. Every day this month has been a new feeling. And you did tell me to embrace this and I was but I have never felt this scared, dreadful and anxious. It is hard to hold on to myself in times like this. I am considering meds again because I truly believe no one should ever have to feel like this. Hard to focus on what to do next. Hard to feel feelings. It is pure survival mode. Just make it to another day. I think I have always lived like this but after experiencing some joy in my healing times. And by joy I mean joy alone and acceptance it is hard to come back to this state.
NicholeParticipantIt is very true. It could have been just her feeling. And that has crossed my mind rationally. But the defensive part of me comes out lately. I really feel like two people which the therapist actually told me is very normal for ptsd. It is so exhausting.
I like her but did not like the vibe she gave when she said I didnāt ask for what I need, even though it was true. I didnāt! We were doing processing and I actually wanted to stop but kept going. So she went along with it until she narrowed down the question to what I needed in that moment and it was as if I was avoiding the question but at the time I totally dissociated. Which is normal when thinking back to old traumas.
Have you ever experienced any of this?
NicholeParticipantSo she just made a comment during EMDR processing to notice I donāt ask for what I need, but she seemed so bothered when she said it. At the end of session she said she couldnāt do our usual time next week and I said ok I can work with her schedule. She said well ok and she seemed so bothered by me. It was not the usual conversation we have.
NicholeParticipantI agree a life that makes sense sounds good. I hope to do this for myself. I donāt think paying rent and bills make sense for me right now. It is so stressful on top of all of the stress I already have. Iām thinking the Roomate situation was a better deal. But then again when I was in that situation I was uncomfortable. But the more I learn about the fight or flight system I am doomed for this feeling until I get it under control.
I am not sure how this will sound or if you can relate having been abused and in distress for so long yourself but I donāt know what to do for myself sometimes. Like my brain doesnāt have the capacity sometimes to take care of me. I was never taught this so I do forgive myself. I was taught nothing more than survival and self sabotage. So sometimes I donāt even know what it is that I need. I think my trauma therapist noticed this recently and she made some comments that werenāt too sympathetic to it. So Iāve been debating if I want to see her again. But so unsure. Very similar to all of the dozens of red flags with my ex and family and I stayed in that abuse. It is so sad to feel like I donāt know how to make the right decisions or plays for myself. I try my hardest and sometimes still fail. Truly trying to get to a better place with this but everyday my mind changes on what I need. How can I figure this out? Today I think moving to Florida is what I need tomorrow I may think here it is and I just need time to heal and rest. Itās exhausting and something most people donāt understand.
NicholeParticipantThanks Anita as always your advice is on point.
i am excited to live both an easier and more interesting life.
And I do not want to complain but am struggling so much. I have ptsd, so that means nightmares, anxiety attacks often and flashbacks sometimes all day long. I also have very codependent behavior that is not so easy to take at times. It is an addiction from what I am learning. On that note I want to apologize for the overwhelming plea to come live with you I did a couple months ago. Although at the time I was serious, it was my inner little me crying for help from anyone. But so not fair to do to you. I appreciate your advice and support throughout my journey. There is so many things I have learned from you and used to get me where I am.
survival mode is exactly what I am in. My somatic therapist has helped me to see this and I look back and see some of the extreme behavior and decisions I made were complete survival. I do forgive myself because this is a learned behavior from childhood. I had no choice but to survive in that household. But since I left my aunts place I have been only surviving. I am so tired of it. I spent over 8 thousand in 5 months surviving. It is sad to me. I had a dream and goals and was starting to live rather than survive but my family was not having it. But more than anything I went into self sabotage mode and am having trouble forgiving this. I worked so hard to get to where I was to be thrown off track like that is painful. I have been no contact with my entire family for 2 weeks. It is not easy but when I realize how much Iāve lost in these months I am almost furious with them and how they make me the bad guy when all I did was try to love and forgive them. I know I need to feel these feelings out but itās hard when sometimes Iām in an all day panic attack.
My latest thought (not sure if this is survival) is going back to Florida. Ending my lease and taking what I can. Selling the rest. I have my job and know a couple of maybe nice people in the area.
I honestly dont know what I was thinking getting this apartment. I know it had to do with family but now that winter is arriving this is so not where I want to be. I donāt think my car can handle it, I also donāt think I can. Last winter was depressing and that is when I was seeing family. To be alone all winter here sounds dreadful.
But the con is the hassle of all that I would have to do. Saving for a month by working extra hours and second job. Also the stress of the move itself. I donāt know if I can handle anymore stress. My bathroom vent was leaking this morning when I woke up and I literally felt the stress feeling come up my body as if to tell me if one more thing becomes stressful!!
NicholeParticipantDear Anita, you are right. And thank you.
I try to be strong and keep on but lately it has definitely tooken itās toll. Sometimes I feel I need a month off of life. Maybe a vacation. But at this point with the apartment, Iāve used up my savings on furnishing and all. And now I wonder if all along I should have took your advice to leave and start somewhere new. I know you can never know until you experience but I do wish I would have made a different decision. Or maybe itās just the anxiety I am having today. I definitely need a list to make my life easier. It has been way too hard, and I know I donāt deserve this much distress. Iām surprised my body has taken it. It seems to be non stop. At this point I would love to make a list but am under water with my current to do. With my moms 1 year anniversary and birthday this week, Iāve certainly abandoned some things but couldnāt work past my anxiety and fatigue.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita!
I am back. Trying to heal and move on. It has been rough since we last spoke. Although I did get situated in my new place, I have had to have dealings with family when we lost another family member. I suffered some more gas lighting and projection. I have certainly abandoned myself at times. That is hard to come to terms with. I’m holding on strong but honestly between my PTSD and anxiety sometimes it is minute by minute.
All I truly want is to love and be loved by good people. Not perfect just a simple life. But somewhere in my subconscious I belive I am not letting go of family. So I keep getting in the tangle and each time worse.
NicholeParticipantThank you Peggy. I do need to start thinking about what I can bring to others.
NicholeParticipantGrenada, I am so sorry to hear about your grandmother and also not having family support. This is extremely hard. Thank you for reminding me I am not alone. Wishing well in your recovery. I know how hard it is losing a parent. It will get better with time but honestly I am still getting over my moms a year later. It is a difficult dark road but we are not alone and I have found so groups to help and made a couple new friends.
Sending you love
NicholeParticipantHi Anita, I miss hearing from you and your guidance. Hope you are well.
NicholeParticipantI thought about it but canāt come up with a answer.
Its so hard for me to just let things go
well at this stress level it is
i feel like calling him or my father is saying itās ok what you did to me since I never responded to them
also not sure I want family knowing I have an apartment here
i may say I left town and be alone from them?
but see my decision making is poor
with constant thoughts and stress levels at all time high Iām shaky and uneasy and it sucks
none of this was my plan
life was going ok, I worked hard to get to a better place and Iām so defeated!
NicholeParticipantI donāt mean she literally wants chaos but it seems that way.
i also know sleep deprivation isnāt helping but that is from stress so hand in hand.
heres what I know
ive made some bad decisions
ive reacted
My life and real relationships are all out of control
i didnt do this intentionally and worked hard against it but Iām a pre conditioned mess
i got my apartment tomorrow
i want to fix relationships or at least respond to family situations because left undone keeps me in the flight response I believe. I reacted irrational when I was scared and itās driving me crazy the control I donāt have.
I know now that I was mistreated but also know it may not have been personal and I reacted to it as if it was. Because little Nichole is constantly looking for abuse as you say. This is true.
she was abused so early on and is terrified for it to happen again. When I realized I was emotionally abused after leaving my ex and realizing my family had done it to scared me. I was looking for it everywhere. Which makes me not trust my decision to end all of these relationships.
i have no connections and itās like going cold turkey off of drugs! Iām in withdrawal
i want to begin some connections somewhere with family because what I need a stranger canāt give me. But my family is invalidating and a bit much so I canāt trust myself to make a decision on that.
I dont trust myself at all right now!
Which sucks because I was working on that like hell!
ive lost trust in these bad decisions
i dont have movers
i donāt have cable box for work
i donāt have help
money is going down!
I dnt Ā have a bed, my things are everywhere
my car needs maintenance
my body needs sleep
i need love and support!
I donāt know where to begin
i wrote this feeling like an 80 year old woman because of stress and tension!
Have you ever felt like that?
It feels like it wonāt go away!
NicholeParticipantIāve been trying to figure this out. I lay meditate and ask my body. I look in the mirror and ask. I know being alone has tooken its burden on me strongly but I continue meditating and telling little me Iām safe and no danger. It works momentarily and then the visions and flashbacks continue triggering me I believe. And I believe itās happening when I sleep and thatās why I canāt stay asleep. I know this and still canāt figure out how to calm down. Itās sad all I want is peace and all the poor little girl who is damaged wants is chaos. Iām two people stuck! I believe the little girl in me needs s safe place and love. Iām giving her both. What else can I do
NicholeParticipantThatās what I was doing before all this happened. I continue my talks with myself but my subconscious has gotten louder and faster and aggressive. Iām trying with all my might soul and power. š
NicholeParticipantHonestly not really
Rough times Anita
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