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January 13, 2020 at 6:08 pm #333277QParticipant
Hey E,
If you can get out, get out. Being in a bad situation is never good. Thatâs why they call it a bad situation. It affects everything around you.
For those of us who canât get out (maybe I should stop saying canât), the question is how do we…what? Cope? I guess thatâs the word.
Since writing here Iâve realized that Iâm looking for a way to numb/take away/escape the pain. It hurts. I tried meditation when the pain was really strong and it still hurt. I donât know.
December 24, 2019 at 7:04 am #329165QParticipantHey everyone, just wanted to check in and see if anyoneâs found a solution?
I find meditation (mindfulness) helps deal with the emotional pain, but it doesnât âtake it awayâ – i.e. the issues are still there, it just doesnât hurt as much. In my experience when I felt like a good person, I was hopeful – happy – I actually felt good. Now, I have TONS of external (and internal) issues and frankly not much hope that it will get better. I feel trapped.
I think a lot of our feelings – or at least mine – stems from being in extreme pain due to personal circumstances and then there seems like no hope of being able to escape it.
I have found hope ( and obviously a pain-free life) makes all the difference.
The question is when everything – life at the time – is painful, and there seems like no hope, how do you continue to be a good person – to feel like a good person? Itâs the best goal you can have – to be a good person.
I think the pain, the hopelessness, the other things, numb us. I think the word I was looking for was âinspiredâ. I was inspired to be a great person. Now, Iâm beat up by life and, simply put, it feels like I canât feel anything good. Any time I feel good even for a second, some evil comes and ruins it. Iâm trying to do the right thing – but I feel impulsive. I feel like I need to avoid the pain. I think itâs the constant fight-or-flight reaction.
Even if I told you what the cause of your pain was – I said â[this] is the cause of your painâ – if you canât fix it what good would it do knowing? The goal is to feel relaxed and inspired, but itâs completely natural to feel awful in an awful situation. But that doesnât help – we want to feel good – feel and act like good people no matter the situation.
Let me give you an extreme example. Kidnapping victims. Someone who has been taken hostage and held for days – weeks – isnât going to have bubbly feelings inside. Theyâre going to feel threatened, the FoF response is going to kick in, and since they canât easily escape their situation (running will get them shot), they freeze or fawn. They may feel on edge, or numb, or anything else. Itâs not unexpected that they wonât feel inspired. For me, if I were in that situation – which of course I would never wish that on myself or anyone else – I woudnât want the threat over my head to affect how I behave. I want to be in control. I would of course be terrified, but I donât want my circumstances to dictate my behaviour, I want to recognize my circumstances, determine what the right thing to do is, and do it. So I guess the goal is control. But even then it gets tiring because in addition to fighting the threat, your fighting yourself. Maybe limit your resources to doing the right thing?
Weâre wired to get away from pain – which is great – but the issues of today are not like the issues of the beginning of human time. Back then, you saw a lion – you ran. Today, the lion is everywhere. You canât just run the other way to escape it. So what do we do? We canât evolve. The escape for the lion is far more complex than running – and isnât instant. So we live in a constant state of FoF – which causes a lot of the feelings you described.
Fortunately, nature gave us an opposite of FoF – the relaxation response. Like I said at the beginning, I donât know what the solution is – Iâm just sharing my knowledge and experience so someone can combine theirs and find the solution.
All the best to all of you.
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