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    Natasha
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    Hi Anita,

    There is more to the story that I did not tell you.

    You were a child talking to another child. He was not in the position to promise you marriage because he was a child. I understand that he was an older child and able to have sex, but still.. he was a child.

    – You are right he is a child. But a child has enough brains to tell me to not tell anyone about the sexual relationship because I was a 16 year old minor, while he was 18 years old. He would get in trouble if anyone finds out. He had the brains to tell me this. But no intelligence to understand about marriage or my sister? (Especially, when I introduced her to him around the second year ofĀ  our relationship?).

    My answer to the first question- one reason is that you urged him to choose his parents. And to the second question: you didnā€™t stand by his side through thick and thin. Instead you constantly fought with him, questioned him, expressing your anxiety to him, and guilt tripped him, telling you how much pain you are experiencing because of him, and you didnā€™t listen to his pain.

    -I only constantly fought and questionedĀ  him during 2013-Ā  2014, when he cheated on me. After I started to trust him, I never fought with him. You are right, I did express my anxiety for the future towards him. I do not understand, how I guilt tripped him. I never spoke about my pain. The only time I spoke about my pain, was when he hurt me, without even thinking about me. (Was I suppose to not say anything, when he hurt me? Was I suppose to tell him, it is okay that he is hurting me?).

    -After he cheated and after he gained my trust back. I would always protect him. I forgave him. He used to say he felt bad for the pain he caused me. I said its gone and done with, let it go. Focus on what is to come. Every time he blamed himself for my studies or what happened in high school. I would only tell him, it was worth it. It was for us. I kept telling him, it is okay and to let it go. It is the past and everything is better now. How is that guilt tripping him or fighting with him? Even with regards to my studies. We both knew, he has a huge influence on why I did not do well in school. Yet, I took the blame to comfort him. I told him I should have concentrated, it is my fault. (Only so he doesn’t corner himself with guilt. I always put myself under the bus for him. I tried my best, in-front of him to not blame him. The only time I lose it, is when he hurts me. Because he never ever thinks about me. He just selfishly does everything)

    He was unhappy with his parents, felt neglected (which explains his clinging behavior toward you), so you and him had an opportunity: to turn away from your respective parents and build a life of your own, you and him, a team of two.

    “He told you that he wants to run away from them, run away with you. He repeatedly expressed to you his dissatisfaction in his family and in his religion. He told you at one point (you were about 24) that he is prepared to ā€œconvert for me and disown his parents for (you)ā€-

    Yes he was prepared to convert for me. I agree. But I do not want him to convert and resent it later in life. I asked him why does he want to convert? He said, it is so my parents will accept him. I asked him if he believes in Jesus being the son of God? He said no, that is against his views. Under that circumstance how should I support him with converting? If I were to agree to him converting, he will convert for me, to only resent it and then me. I told him I would support him and convince my own parents to accept him for him.Ā 

    This was his explanation as to why he cheated on me. 2018 when he was referring to running away, it was to tell our parents once, after graduation and then run away. I believe we needed to give our parents some time to process the information. How are we to expect our parents to accept immediately, after telling them about our relationship? I even explained this to him, he seemed to understand back in 2018.

    -But you told him instead, regarding his suggestion to disown his parents and convert: ā€œwe will never do such a thing. We will wait until they agree. We will never run awayā€¦ And neither of us will convertā€-

    ā€“Ā you choseĀ his parents and your parents over the two of you.

    I did not choose his parents and my parents over the two of us. The reason why I said neither of us will convert. Is because in 2015, he told me he will break up with me if I do not convert into Islam. After a huge discussion, he told me he was going crazy and it is okay if I do not want to convert. I told him, I would convert but only if I believe in Islam. The bond I share with god and me is personal. It isn’t right to just convert for the sake of conversion. And the same applies to him. I knew even though he was saying he hates Islam, he does not want to practice it, he was equally attached. If he was not attached why did he ask me to convert? I did not want him to convert and later on feel a resentment.Ā 

    And even though he said he hates his parents. I have seen him get concerned if any of his parents got sick. I did not want to break a family. I wanted to unite the two families. I believe with time, patience, proper communications they would have understood. (just like his cousin, who convinced her parents to get permission to marry a hindu boy).

    -Here is an example, he told you again that he ā€œdoes not feel belonged in his religion.. he does not like the Muslim organization he is a part of. He started to say he feels every ounce of his happiness is being drained from him. I asked him if he is happy with us?ā€-you didnā€™t care to listen to him being unhappy with his religion or with his parents, you only cared about his unhappiness as it related to you.

    Also not true. I was not ignorant to his concerns. When he told me he hates attending the muslim organizations. He hates how he has to take up tasks when no1 was willing to take on the responsibility. Only to later get blamed for not doing a proper job. I told him to not go to these organizations. I told him, to make up an excuse that he has to study or something so his parents cannot pressure him, into going (He did not listen to me, what else can I do?). I even told him to talk with other members of the organization, so they will take up his position. If he does not attend the events once or twice, someone else is bound to take up his position.Ā 

    When he was telling me his concerns, I have sat up with him till 1am or 2am or longer throughout 2018, addressing his concerns only. He was confused about his studies. He told me he hated his program. And I initially told him to do masters, so he has more job opportunity. But when he said he cannot even complete his undergrad, I agreed with him to not continue with masters. I even told him do not give up on undergrad he basically needs to push through for 1.5 years, which is basically 1 year and he never has to see books ever again.

    In December 2017, when he was applying to get back into University. University almost rejected him. He contacted me saying most likely university isn’t in the books for him. I watched him travel between his college and university, trying to figure out what happened. And when I realized he was stressing, I pushed aside my studies for that day, to help him get back into university.

    January 2018, the only form of support I can tell him is to focus on school. I even told him to contact our common friend. She graduated from the same institute for the same programs. She has notes, that would be helpful for him to study off from. That way he won’t be lost in school. I told him to make sure he keeps all his grades around the 3.8 GPA, that way he won’t risk getting any academic warning. I agree I pressured him, only for him to do well. But then he told me he feels pressured. So I told him okay, I will back down. He would message me saying, school is tough. I started to offer him advice to seek on campus help or message Prof/TA for office helps.Ā 

    When I went for my vacation around April 29 2018, he had messaged me saying he did not do wellĀ  for the Winter semester. He is going to get dismissed, but he wrote in a appeal letter and he is scared. I told him, to not worry if anything goes wrong to transfer into another university using his grades from diploma to get into IT. But most likely, everything will go well and the appeal would be accepted.Ā 

    Then it was his career. He told me he does not want a office job. I told him that is fine. He said he wants to set up vending machines and earn finance from that to help medical school loans. I found that a bit unrealistic, and I told him that’s not possible. Then he said he wants to start DJing as a professional career. He asked if I am okay, if he does DJing at clubs. (I haven’t been to a club and I do not have a good view towards clubs either). I initially said no I am not okay, but later when I realized it was his interest. I told him I support him. I told him it is a risk to jump into DJing immediately. But to start it off as a hobby, if it clicks then make it a full time job. He asked me what if he wants to start a business and invest a huge amount in it, so he can’t finance med school. I said that is fine. Under that circumstance I will take time away from medical school, support him until his business starts running. Or if he can hold his business, by then I will complete medical school, have a good earning and I can support his business. (What else, could I possibly say or do more to show him support?).

     

    So you encouraged him to stay with his parents and you encouraged him to practice the religion he hated, you ā€œtold him to pray 5 times a day or to eat halalā€, and his response, ā€œhe would get angry with meā€- because you didnā€™t listen to him, you didnā€™t stand by his side through thin and thick. The thin (or thick) here was his dislike of his parents and his religion and you stood by his parents and his religion, not by him.

    – ā€œtold him to pray 5 times a day or to eat halalā€, and his response, ā€œhe would get angry with meā€-Ā I told him this back in 2016 not 2018. 2016 he told me he does not believe in god. I tried to reason with him as to why to believe in God. When I realized he was not having any of it. I stopped. But he also went to Mecca and told me he felt at peace there (From that I knew he does not “hate” Islam). He told me he hates Islam and himself because it is associated with terrorism. And how Islam is not a peaceful religion. That is when I told him Islam is a peaceful religion, he can’t blame entire Islam for a couple of evil people. There is evil people in every religion, even in Christianity. And I told him to attempt to 5 pray times and to eat halal so he does not hate himself for being Muslim. And he encouraged me to read the bible, that never made me stray away from him. (So why is that a excuse for him to stray away from me?). I even told him to teach me more about Islam because I want to know my husbands religion and he wanted to learn about Christianity. We would even pray together because we were trying to unite our religion. During lent he would not eat meat for me and during Eid I would try to fast for him. For a guy who hates Islam why practice Eid and Ramadan? That just told me he does not “hate” Islam.

    When he told me he prefers to eat non halal because then he has more food options. I backed down and stopped bugging him for it. Keep in mind, this happened in 2016. (Was I expected to support every single one of his decisions regardless it is wrong or right?).Ā 

    2019Ā he would attempt to choke himself or slap himself. I would give him a hug and he would stop. He would then ask me, why am I protecting him from harming himself? I only told him I care and love him. (If I was suppose to agree to all his decision, which may not be right, was I expected to support what he was doing? I was in a relationship, we are a team. We are one. It is all true. But if one is not heading the right path, should I just let them follow it? All because I am in a relationship, I should never share my opinion? When I was doubtful of medical school, I asked him for his advice. He would tell me with the rate I am going, he does not feel I will make it. But just concentrate on what matters now. I never held that against him. I took his words evaluated it. And he made sense to me).Ā 

    You repeatedly wrote that he left you abruptly, but this is not true. On January 2018, ā€œhe told me he started to feel suffocated by meā€. That suffocation was a slow process, not an abrupt occurrence.

    Yes he told me he was suffocated. I also asked him why? To which he had no response. Yet, I tried to make things right and to make things work. I was walking blankly, trying to figure out why he feels suffocated. If these were his reasons, why couldn’t he just tell me? We could have worked on it and fix it. I thought me being anxious was the cause, so I stopped saying anything that worries me. That is when I asked him if he still feels suffocated? If he is happy with us? (I did not ask if he is happy with us, disregarding all his concern). And he told me he does not feel suffocated, he does feel happy with me. When I saw him reluctant to drop me off at the airport, I thought everything was good between us. Why could he not just communicate with me, properly? I did not get upset with him when he told me he feels suffocated. I only tried to fix whatever it is, that is troubling him on my end. Isn’t that how relationships works? (If there is a problem, communicate, find a solution, fix the problem, move on? That is what I have been doing for him, for all these years).

    In fact, entire 2018 was about him. The only time it was about me, was during July 2018 when I was waiting for a response for York University with regards to my admission status. Other than that entire 2018 was focused on him. And I never complained about it. Day in and day out I concentrated on his concerns. Repeated it daily.Ā 

     

     

    #296401
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    My problem is I do not know what I should learn from this experience. I do not believe I have mistreated him. I have been loyal, honest, caring and loving towards him. I trusted him out of all people. I thought he was not a person who does not enjoy playing with others emotions. And I stood beside him, regardless of what everyone said. I am not sure what I did, that prevented the relationship from working. He always behaved like he has his own mind, separate from his parents. Now he thinks exactly like his parents.

    Now, I blame myself for not encouraging him, when he was against his parents. I feel I was so stupid for not trying to divide him with his family. I never tried to keep him isolated from everyone as he did with me. Now I regret it.

    I never idealized him for his behavior. I used to always question him as to why he changed? He told me he treats everyone close to him, like this now. Since I am in a relationship with him and since his parents are closest to him, he treats these people horribly because he is suffering through depression. He told me he does not mistreat or tell outsiders how he feels, or show outsiders how he really feels. And to be honest, I never believed him.

    I am scared of what the future hold for multiple occasions. He pulled up my biggest fears. I always wasn’t keen on arranged marriage, because I was brought up seeing my parents in an unhappy, loveless marriage. Therefore, I always wanted a love marriage. Now the love failed miserably and I have no idea what I did wrong. I stood up beside him for this long, because I wanted things to work out. I did not want things to crumble and I would always tell him I cannot see my married life crumble. He promised me, things will all work out, but I now see he was always lying to me. I always wanted someone who accepts my disabled sister. He knew her since she was a child, and he never understood her. I am afraid the person who comes into my life in the future would set up a division with my family.Ā  I cannot choose a good person to love anymore. In our culture virginity is seen of high importance. And I do not know how I would be perceived as in the future. (He freaked out early in the stage when he thought I was not a virgin. He told me he was a virgin, therefore he wanted me as a virgin. Now he says, virginity isn’t much of a big deal). I strongly believe he is only saying that to cover his skin now. He knows it will affect me badly.Ā  I want to be truthful to the next person who walks into my life. But I am afraid I can’t. All this time I kept telling myself, it is okay I took a long time to get my degree in hand. It was for him. Now I just feel like, I stupidly wasted 6 years of my life, for a useless cause. I will no longer be able to apply for medical school in Canada. I have to go abroad, spending more than I actually have too. (That is only if I even get into a medical school abroad and my family is middle class to take up a $300,000 loan is a huge burden on them). I do not feel secure in life anymore. I do not feel confident with myself anymore. I do not believe I can let myself feel vulnerable again. And I still love him. I still search for him, hoping he would return. I know how fast my heart beats every time a car similar to his passes by or someone who looks like him, passes by.

    All the while, I have to tell myself, the break up was meant to be. We nurtured the relationship, celebrated our anniversary every year with so much love. We would always talk about how our parents are being unreasonable. We will convince them one day. And then one day he walks up and leaves, giving me a bunch of excuses. He sums it up saying, he lost himself, he wants peace, he finds happiness and ease with his parents. I do not know how to be “okay” with that. And to accept it. I have no idea how to shut my feelings off and just move on. If anything, now I feel more anxious with life and the future. And I see no hope of a promising secure future, like the one I always wanted. And I am so scared. All my friend said to put faith in God and to trust God has greater plans set up for me. And I cannot believe that.

    I told him one time my parents believe he would use me and throw me away. He reassured me that is not his intention. His intention is pure and it is to be with me, get married. He even told me he will not deceive me. He did exactly that, without any regret.

    I actually did speak to a therapist, that did not help me

    I wish to learn how to turn my feelings off, just like he did. But I have no idea how to do that. And I do not believe love would ever fade away. I should be hating him by now, and I can’t. I never hated him for all he did. I just, do not know what to do anymore. I cannot understand, why I am not good enough for him. I feel like I am a chewed up piece of gum. Once, the flavor is gone, I got spat out. Everyone else gets to walk over me.

    I have no idea how to find happiness, in his happiness of not being together. I feel I have more consequences to face. While he walks unscratched by everything. I feel broken and I do not know how to fix myself. And I want to feel happy again. I want to be the person, I was before I met him. But I feel I lost that part of me, a long time ago. I want to look at him and feel nothing. I want to treat him like a stranger like he treats me. I want to be able to not think about him. I want to feel okay, with the idea of someone else touching me. But the idea itself, still makes me want to throw up. I have no idea how he is okay, with someone else.

    #296377
    Natasha
    Participant

    He used to tell me, he feels like himself the most with me. Was that a sugar-coated lie, that he fed me for all these years? He even told me he could tell me anything and everything. After he returned from his trip from India around December 2018, he told me how his cousins smoke weed and they drink alcohol (which is not permitted in Islam).

    I asked him why he gave me hope, by telling me about his cousin who married a Hindu boy back in 2018. He said it was a habit to tell me everything and anything. I told him, you told me everything, except how you feel about our relationship and me? To which, he changed the topic.

    #296375
    Natasha
    Participant

    He even said towards the end how he does not want any relationship. He wants to concentrate on himself and find himself. I asked him if he was confused about me, then why make me those promises. He said he was not confused, at one point he wanted everything with marriage and all. But one day all of a sudden he sees his parents pain only.

    It’s hard for me to accept this. He used to be the guy who would always cling to me. If I was home with him, he would insist on me sitting beside him. When I asked why? He said he is like his father who wants his wife around him constantly.

    He would kiss me or slap me in a playful manner saying he would do the same in front of his parents with me. And I can’t understand how things changed so drastically. He used to refer to me as his best friend. Starting last year he started to say he is a lone wolf. Then this year he said he has no best friend and he is a lone wolf. But I do see that he is traveling with his friends going to movies and road trips.

    He even said he does not appreciate my disabled sister. I told him he does not have to deal with her, we will have personal support workers (psw) looking after her. She just needs to stay in our house and I do not want to put her in an old age home (before he was really supportive of her living with us). Then he said he hates the idea because psw might steal from the house. (but his family has a personalĀ  maid to clean their house, which he has no issues with). I asked him what will he do with his parents when they get old? He said he will put them in old age home or get them a separate house. Later after an interaction with his co worker, he said he realized he wants his parents to live with him as they get older. Throwing them away is against culture. And then when I gave him the “told you so look”. He told me to shut up.

    He used to refer to my parents as “dad” and “mom”. I used to call his parents “Umma” and “Vappa”. That is how close our relationship was like. And then towards the end, he left me, like I am his girlfriend. He told me how can we be a family? When he has no family (I suppose he is referring to if his parents disowned him). 2016 he bought a Christmas ornament, saying he wants it to be on the tree every year, to feel apart of the family. Every year from 2016 I would put his Christmas ornament on the tree, take a picture and sent it to him. I do not understand what happened to all that history. Now he says he never cared about my parents or my family. (He used to say he wanted to stop my father from smoking and drinking because it was bad for his health).

    I even asked if he is getting bored of me or lost interest in me? He said no. (But I feel he is lying to me). Before he would stay up till 1am – 5am talking to me, only to wake up 7am, to greet me with a big smile at 8am (High school days). University days he would stay up till 1am- 2am talking to me, to greet me at 8am. Towards the end sharp at 11 pm he wants to sleep or he gets grumpy.

    He even started to complain about the 1-foot height difference between him and me. I told him didn’t he realize the height difference when he was stalking me in high school? Those times he didn’t have issues, why now? He told me last year around September when a family friend showed a picture of me and him. His mom commented saying she is extremely short. That bothered him. Early stages of the relationship, when I told him I am so short compared to him. He would name several examples of short-tall couples, making me feel better. He would even tell me how he wished he was my height because he feels he is too tall. He started to complain about how my hair isn’t straight and how I do not dress in a feminine manner. (he never had such concerns before).

    He even said I did not allow him to pursue DJing as a career, that’s why he wants to break up. Only for him to decide DJing isn’t a good career. (I never said to not pursue DJing, I told him to start it off as a hobby and if it clicks to make it a full-time job). He even said I never put faith in him to believe he can provide for paying medical school fees for me. (And it wasn’t that I didn’t have faith, it was because I saw him stressing trying to figure out financial ways to pay off huge loans like medical school). Then he said he wants to break up because he never wanted a doctor for a wife. He hates me pursuing a career in medicine and he sees me more successful in starting up a business. (I been talking about medicine since high school, he supported me fully back in the days). He kept giving me excuse one after the other.

    Nothing makes sense to me. How does one do a complete 360 overnight? How does he walk away like this 10-year relationship, meant nothing to him? If it was true love or genuine love how do you just switch off your feelings for someone?

    How do you speak so ill about your own parents and then choose them in the end? How do you forget the person, who stood by your side through thick and thin? (He used to appreciate me for staying by his side, he used to say he knows he is the most difficult person to be with. But he appreciates how I kept so much faith in our relationship).

    #296339
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Yes, we are both residing in Canada with our families. We are both from the southern part of India. He immigrated to Canada with his family from Abu Dhabi and I immigrated with my family from Kuwait.

    #296335
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    That’s what I find funny. He did not leave me based on ONE facebook post. The Facebook post happened in 2013. Even after the Facebook post, he still gave me access to all his accounts. We met when we were 13/14, we are now 23/25 (He turned 25 recently).

    And that’s what I cannot understand. How did he just change quickly overnight? October 19, 2018, he waits exactly at midnight to send me a paragraph of how much I mean to him. October 20, 2018, he wants to break up. And he is instantly cold towards me.

    I am not idolizing him. I feel pain and I still love him, which makes me upset with myself. I am in love with a guy who was able to shut his feelings off for me, overnight. And I do not know how to move on as he did.

    After April 29, 2019 he has never even attempted to contact me to see if I am okay. This just tells me, he no longer feels anything for me. He is extremely happy with his life, cruising through it with a breeze. And I am still crying, devastated by the whole ordeal. And I am still trying to make sense out of everything. I have so many questions, but he refuses to answer any of it. The last message he sent me was to not disturb him or his family. To go separate ways and to not get involved in each other’s lives.

    If he loved me truly, how is he so cold towards me? And no pain.

    I had parents pressure too. I even told him to break up because of it, back in high school. When he replied back to not leave him and we will make things work. To have faith. I never proceeded to hurt him further.

    Who am I to blame for the relationship ending without any closure?

    And I am aware in our 20s we change alot. I asked him if I did any mistake that he wants to end the relationship abruptly. He then said you did everything you can, it’s not you, it is me. (I have no idea what to make out of this statement). I even offered to speak to his parents. He said if it was back then he would have supported me. But now he sees only his parents pain, so I can try but he won’t be on my side. (So what happened to his love?). Did I miss the chance? Can love just vanish from pressure and stress?

    He told me his mom said if I was really that serious I would bring my parents. But he told me his mom would only say no. I did not want to get my parents involved to have them insulted.

    The relationship ended, because of me? Because I didn’t speak to his parents earlier when he was on my side and because I didn’t agree with his plan of running away as soon as we tell our parents?

    #296319
    Natasha
    Participant

    reads to me that he suffered a lot, had a father yelling at him, a religion he didnā€™t want; he wanted to run away from his family and religion, run away with you, but you didnā€™t want to run away with him.

    I suffered a lot more than that. I went through physical and verbal abuse with my own parents with regards to him. There were days, that I couldn’t walk from the physical abuse. I went through mental stress from my parents and then him.I fought so much with my parents, that eventually my parents gave in saying if I love this boy so much, they want to see him. But they will ask about his job and how him. (This was back in high school). I never expected for him to hurt me, by cheating on me and then behaving so cruel towards me. Especially when he knew what all I faced with my parents for him. I kept my distance from my cousins and my parents. Eventually, I decided to keep the relationship a secret, until the day he graduates which was within 1 year.

    When it came to physical intimacy he was prepared to convince me for years. He couldn’t wait 1 more year?

    If he wanted to run away from his family and religion, why did he leave me? All I asked him was to wait till he graduates which is 1 more year. Why couldn’t he do that?

    I never said I was not prepared to run away with him. I told him to at least graduate and then we can tell our parents. If they reject after, then we can decide. I even told him I am prepared to live in the basement with him, to start off. He knew he had no job and I knew I had no job and no education. (He also wasn’t talking about running away now, he wanted to run away if his parents didn’t agree, according to his plan he wanted to tell them once, his intention of being with me [without giving them the time to register everything] if they disapproved he wanted to run away) (He knew it was impossible to run away now).

    What does his parents know about me? They only know me as the girl who made the fb post. He told me he will explain to them about what happened. Did he ever explain anything to them? What else do they know about me? What do they know about our relationship? Whatever his parents know about me is all assumptions or new they get from their family friend. My parents rejected back in high school. 1) Because we are young, they thought it was our immaturity and not love 2) they even said he will be the boy who would use me physically and throw me away 3)he is of a different religion. That’s all my parents know about him. (Currently, he proved them right).

    What I expected him to do was wait one more year. He waited for 10 years, he couldn’t wait 1 more year? All of a sudden his love for me vanished? His dedication and the wait vanished? All of a sudden his family and his religion became dear to him? He didn’t go through half of what I went through.

    When he told me his father was yelling at him. It wasn’t because of the relationship. His father was yelling at him for not doing a good job in the family business. And for not doing a good job in the Muslim organization.

    Back in 2016, he told me his dad hit him for talking to me. Now he is telling me, he lied about that incident. And that incident never took place.

    And the reason I constantly fought with him, is because of him cheating on me. He never could admit he cheated on me. He would think, it is okay to do such a thing, by involving another girl. And taking her to a mosque and telling her he loves her. For me, the mosque is a holy place and to tell someone you love them infront of a mosque, when you don’t is sick. I fought with him, because he let me beg her for him. If he loved me, how can he sit and watch me beg for him infront of someone else. I told her I love him and I told her the bond I shared with him. And she didn’t care. I fought with him because he would send me pictures of water droplets on his face and he would say he is crying and later say its water droplets. I fought with him because he saw I was losing my sanity and he did not stop. If I see him cry, I would stop whatever it is I am doing, that causes him pain. Did he do the same for me? No. 1 whole year he drove me insane saying he loves her/ does not love her. He saw me cry day in and out. I stopped functioning like a normal human being and I expressed how I felt to him. That girl, would send me snaps of their conversation, where I found find he is flirting with her. That’s why I fought with him. Because it was a sick game for him. 1 year it took him to realize, what he did was immature. If he had an issue he could have simply talked it out with me.

    And I was getting pressure from my parents since day 1 of the relationship First stress and pressure was to end the relationship. Second stress and pressure were other proposals. I stood my ground for 10 years with my own parents. When I felt the pressure and stress, I would talk to him about it. I would never keep it to myself. If he felt the pressure and stress, he would have talked it out with me. He never told me what all his parents said with regards to our relationship. Instead, he kept saying he is afraid of losing me, afraid I will change my mind because of my parents. And I reassured him I am not going anywhere. When I told him I am scared of losing him to his parents, he said he won’t deceive me. Where did his word go now?

    if he was able to wait for 10 years, he couldn’t wait 1 more year? He started to distance himself from me, what happened to his love for me now? It just vanished?

    The times he wanted to get physical, I felt guilty for doing it in our parents home. I told him I want to wait until we get our own home. If he was owned by his parents, why didn’t he feel the guilt? Instead, he told me it’s his bedroom so it’s okay. He was prepared to convince me for 5 years, that it is okay.

    He was so confident about everything, went as far as to call me his wife. What happened to all that? If he had the least bit of feelings for me, how can he wake up and not feel pain of the relationship ending?Ā  He wasn’t the only one under pressure and stress. We waited for 10 years. Actually, the wait wasn’t even 1 year now. April 5, 2019, he said he is going to return as a better person for our relationship.Ā  8 months. He needed to hold on for 8 months, by then he will graduate. What happened to his love for me?

    He even slapped me, when I refused to agree to the breakup. If he loved me dearly, how can he slap me? His only explanation for that was he was going insane.

    How can he flaunt a proposal he got with everyone? If he felt any sort of pain from ending the relationship, how can he flaunt a proposal he got? How can he stay away from me?

    Back in high school, from parents pressure when I said to end things, I knew I love him and I knew I couldn’t stay away from him, despite what my parents said. Then if he really loved me, how is he staying away from me and saying it is okay?

    His own cousin convinced her parents that she wants to marry a hindu boy. Their marriage took place in December 2018. He told me he felt nothing seeing their interreligious marriage work successfully. Around September 2017 a family friends daughter wanted to marry a hindu tamil boy. He recorded the entire conversation of what her parents were saying about her. Eventually, the parents who were against agreed to her choice of a boy. What happened to his love? How can he just wake up one day and completely give up? That too without even trying. I would understand if he tried and it didn’t work. But we didn’t even try.

    He attended their engagement party around March 2018, sent me pictures. And said we will be there one day. And then when he attended their reception in April 2019, he said he felt sick.

    His parents recently got a $2.4 mill house, he is now working in his family business with his dad and he saw he would get a good proposal from reputed ppl because of his dads status. He eventually wants to take over the family business, which is currently the fasted growing company in Canada (Top 500). And just like that, his love for me vanished.

    When I had the same offer, I never fell for it. If I would have taken the offer, I would have been a doctor by now, married to a doctor. My parents would easily be retired and settled back in India. For him, I didn’t and couldn’t accept the offer because I loved him so much.

    I always told him, if we worked hard, we would also reach the same height our parents are at. If not better. He kept guiding with a promising future and what did he do in the end?

    When it came to me, how could he take up such an offer?

    Why didn’t he realize his fathers power over him, for the 4 years we were in high school?

    #296305
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    I am not sure what to believe. He is showing his true character, morals, and values, 10 years later. What and who was he for 10 years. Every time I always blankly believed him. I fought with my own parents for him and he saw that.

    I don’t know who I loved for 10 years. I don’t how to wake up and say its okay it didn’t work out. Every day I am blaming myself, because of the one fb post I made, that too when I was under depression. People commit suicide under depression, do they get blamed for it? Am I supposed to tell myself, that the relationship ended because I messed up? Or he that he never had a spine to stand up to his parents?

    I do not know how to shut off my feelings as he did. I love him and still do, even though I am trying so hard to convince myself I don’t.

    When I look back 10 years I lost so much. While he lost nothing. He knew about parents since day 1, and yet he chose to move forward with everything. I made my decision with parents and him since the moment I realize how tough it is going to get.

     

    #296297
    Natasha
    Participant

    It is true my parents said they will disown me. They said this back in high school, those times he told me to stand strong for us and we will eventually convince them. As soon as we graduate from University get a job, we waited 10 years for that moment. If he waited 1 more year we could have told our parents.

    Why is that he decides to act now, on what his parents said? When I told him the same 10 years ago, he never listened. Why now, when we are so close? I rejected proposals and kept telling my parents I need time. Just so, I can give him time to graduate and get a job.

    And the reason why I say it is crazy talk when he said lets run away, its because we never got the chance to properly talk to our parents about our intention. I never was able to introduce to my parents him and vise versa for him. He made such a conclusion without us even attempting to tell our parents anything. And now I feel he was never going to talk about marriage to his parents in the first place.

    He just left me all of a sudden. He didn’t even bother talking to me about any of it. At least, when I felt something I had the courtesy to explain my end to him. He never did that for me. He just declared everything on me.

    April 29 2019, in front of his parents he told me he changed his mind because of what they said. I have been asking the same since October 2018, he kept lying to me.

     

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    #296295
    Natasha
    Participant

    If he loved me how could he leave me like that? I accept I did hurt him, but I was also not in a good state of mind, back then. He out of all people understood that. He decided after 5 years, when we had no issues to return to his parents? I never returned to my parents no matter how much he hurt me. Even when I got the proposal, even when it was easier for me to choose a life my parents planned out. I didn’t listen.

    I cannot understand how he loved me? If he loved me how is he so cruel towards me? I do not see any pain from his end with regards to the relationship ending.

    #296283
    Natasha
    Participant

    Within these 10 years of the relationship. He also told me how he felt alone. His dad was constantly traveling for business needs and his mom would concentrate on the Muslim organization events. He would tell me how he hates them. Around 2016 he even wrote them a letter saying how he feels and in the letter he even wrote about the relationship. He even felt like his mom had an affair. I always told him to appreciate what his parents does for him. Because he is born with a golden spoon. I told him to understand how his dad works hard to provide for his the clothes he wants, a house, education, and many other things. And to not speak ill of his mother like that. I cannot understand, how in the end he turns so cold towards me. He basically treats me like a complete stranger. I barely even know him now. And the worst part, I feel like the 10-year relationship and I meant nothing to him. I feel I was some sort of a game to him or a distraction. Now that he is grown up his mom worries for suitors for him and his dad wants him involved in the business. Under that circumstance, he is getting their attention. Did he even love me? He still claims he had genuine love towards me, but he changed his mind changed. Now he only sees his parents pain. And now he feels happiness and ease with his parents.

    I don’t how to behave as he did. To just walk away from the relationship like its nothing. I lost 6kg in one month. When he saw me, he made a joke out of it. Saying at least you lost weight over it. I feel I am the only one getting blamed. While he is getting a pat on his back.

    #296233
    Natasha
    Participant

    Hi Niki,

    Can you update on how you are doing? I am going through the same situation. He left me after a 10-year relationship and chose his parents. I sacrificed so much for him. He told me it is my fault and it was my decision that I made such sacrifices. He gave me all sorts of excuse for break up and he changed drastically. He is now cold and behaves like I am a stranger.

    Currently, I feel so lost and hopeless with life. My career is in a ditch. And I do not know what to do with myself. I know I want to progress in life. I just don’t see hope for the future and I am so scared.

     

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