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To clarify 20-26 months including the 8 months we have done so far. But it is still a very long time.
MichelleParticipantSo we spoke again last night.
We talked about our situation in more depth. We talked for 2 1/2 hours. I had already accepted that the virus has ruined our plans as he would be here today. However, the talk made me feel more accepting of the fact that we are both in a situation outside of our control. We both agreed that it seems impossible for us to ever be together the way we wanted to be. We have already been apart for 8 months and are human and require physical love and affection. He has been suffering coming to terms with this reality for the last few weeks so he has thought about it more.
America with everything the way it currently is just seems to be off the table now.
He will still try to go to Canada but again we can not wait out for that because of the Pandemic it will be 20-26 months of waiting. That seems unreasonable.
Also there is no guarantee he will get into Canada either. As an American it’s easier for me to go an stay there on a work visa as I am qualified for jobs there and there is a pact between the US and Canada that makes it very easy to do so. Not easy to become a resident or citizen but very easy to stay and work. He must go through an entire process where there is no guarantee.
I am suffering and I am depressed from more than just this I was having a very hard time. So I asked him if it made sense to keep in touch until the light at the end of the covid tunnel. To just talk as we did before and be there for each other. However, we should consider ourselves open to date and move on as it is so long from now and there are no guarantees. we should treat it as the relationship is over but be there for each other. Neither of us has a desire to date right now but we both expect that we will meet someone new in such a long time frame.
We had agreed that if we were single and still enjoyed each other we would be open to reuniting in Canada whenever that might be. But we should not hold onto hope for it because everything just seems to be working against us and it’s just such a very long time to wait.
I brought up keeping in touch. He accepted right away and seemed more anxious than me to fall back into our old ways sending me messages immediately after and while I slept.
Is this incredibly unhealthy and preventing me from accepting that I most likely need to let go of this person?
I don’t know if this is the right thing to do. I know that if I cut him off then it is history. I know that if I keep him here the door is still open even if only slightly. I cherish him as a person either way.
MichelleParticipantThank Anita.
I am trying to live in the moment but it so difficult for me to do right now. I only feel pain and I wish for it to stop. I had developed a daily routine with him that has gone on for 13 months. What do I do with no routine in place. How do I make a new one when I feel this way. I can’t do anything but sit here in silence. Somehow the day is just done and I did nothing. It’s so hard to give up everything all at once. My love, my best friend, and the things that i did every day that brought me joy. There is nothing joyful right now.
August 25, 2020 at 6:29 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #365573MichelleParticipantI was told to post here. I am on my 2nd day of a break-up and I’m totally incapacitated. I have sat in silence all day just pretty much starring out into nowhere just finished about my 4th bought of crying for theday. Trying not to dwell but it’s only day 2 and my first day not talking to him.
I was in the best relationship of my life. Except it was long distance. We were set to officially end the distance this month. We planned it in October of 2019. He was going to move here, but then due to circumstances outside of our control with the anti immigration policies of this country and COVID it seemed there was nothing to do but break up. We held onto hope and have not seen each other for 8 months. I never would have imagined that the last time I would see him in my life would be in December 2019. But it just does not seem possible to be together anymore. I went on another forumn because i can’t seem to do anything else but think about him regardless of how much i try. There they told me if he didn’t somehow manage to make it here to be with me then he wasn’t so good and it wasn’t really love. I disagree the only ways he could be with me would mean risking total and utter fincial wipe out and then having to return to china in these bad times. I wouldn’t want that for him that would make me selfish and self serving but it made me feel worse to have it repeated to me multiple times.
Anyhow I managed to eat something. I have been through this type of pain before in my life more times than I wish to have done it. I have gotten past it but right now it feels impossible and being stuck in my apartment alone because of the virus is making it all the much harder. So much suffering. I had written the original story on my own thread a couple of nights ago so i don’t feel i need to write it again but everything just feels so undair. I know life is not always magical but it just feels so awful right now having to give up the best relationship i ever had because of some stupid virus. Even if it had happened later he would have already been here.
MichelleParticipantok thank you I will do that.
MichelleParticipantThanks i’ll post there Tim but i didn’t get much response there why I tried here.
MichelleParticipantI’m really miserable maybe i should never date again. I don’t know how I can’t remain in a good relationship like others I know. Why do I constantly get to be in these seemingly happy situations that always end in misery for me.
August 24, 2020 at 3:43 am in reply to: The Best Relationship I Ever Had Ended Unbearable Emotions #365403MichelleParticipantThank You Marie I don’t know if i will sleep tonight. The sun is up.
August 24, 2020 at 3:16 am in reply to: The Best Relationship I Ever Had Ended Unbearable Emotions #365401MichelleParticipantWell, this does not bring me peace obviously. This and one incident that created our one fight is the only time he has not brought me peace. Otherwise, he brought me so much peace. I was happy every day. I looked forward to waking up to his texts while. Every day felt happy because i knew I had someone there with me supporting me and being patient with me. Every night my night i had someone to virtually spend time with. It felt good having someone always there for me with everything who wanted to be there. He even listened to me for hours on my worst days. No guy had ever done that for me. He accepted all of my oddities and was always kind and patient with me. I had never been happier in any relationship. All of my other relationships ended because the relationship was not ideal. Three ended with them cheating for a long period of time and them lying to me. Others were toxic, there were lots of issues, lots of anger, and lack of commonalities and communication. This guy felt almost like my perfect fit. He understood me, and he was my intellectual equal. We talked for hours every day all day long thoughout the day and i never felt bored or like we had run out of things to talk about.
I don’t want to think about reconnecting that will give me a false hope. He is so far away. I will not go to China right now or anytime in the future. And unless he has a job or a transfer he will not be here. Him looking for a job here is now off the table because it becomes indefinitely harder and more expensive to come here to find a job stay in a hotel or pay the expenses of NYC. I was a place for him to stay while he looked also. But he did not get the chance to look. He went to school to get out of the job he had. He hated his life and didn’t want his life to be that foreer. Now with the virus and him in his 30’s he is giving up his dream of starting a new career and will go to work for the same type of job that he hated. I don’t even think that he will be looking for the jobs that he had envisioned having here because they do not exist in Hong Kong. The chances of us reconnected just dosen’t really seem to be there. I just have to let go of the best relationship i ever had.
I know it’s not all about me. I know everyone is affected by the virus. But i am not in others life so I can only focus on mine. I feel amazingly depressed nothing works for me ever. Not ever. It’s just a tease. Even if this virus didn’t come for another year he would have already been here. The timing is the worst. It has destroyed everything pertaining to and not pertaining to my relationship.
I was also about to sign a job offer for my ideal job I had been trying for years to get. But then this virus came so that went away too. Just everything is gone except for that lawsuit. That will never go away.
August 24, 2020 at 2:22 am in reply to: The Best Relationship I Ever Had Ended Unbearable Emotions #365396MichelleParticipantI couldn’t help it i did kinda say i don’t know how i’ll get through it. I felt the relationship was very great not gripes other than never knowing how he felt and i guess he answered in the same way that i already insinuated.
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I wish I had been more open about how I felt all this time. Expressing things is not a strong suit of mine. What I can honestly say is that the reason I kept holding onto hope for a year was because I cared a lot about you.
Maybe I didn’t express it openly because long distance relationships are filled with so much uncertainty and I didn’t want to commit to something I could not follow through on.
Don’t let yourself get down. You’re an amazing, kind hearted person and I’m not just saying that to make you feel better. Good things happen to good people.
It will take me a while to get over the sadness as well. I don’t express it, but it’s there.”
August 24, 2020 at 1:07 am in reply to: The Best Relationship I Ever Had Ended Unbearable Emotions #365394MichelleParticipantI also wanted to add that this breakup is different. Not only in it being the best and healthiest one that I ever had. When it ended I always thought there was a chance to get it back. I would do the whole not talking to a person thing hoping they would come running back to me. This time it’s different. I don’t even feel that way here. I’m not going to waste hours on getting him back articles and e-books. This time there is nothing to fix. The virus has made it impossible for us to be together. He lives on the other side of the world. It’s just not possible to be together. How do i deal with this sadness with no relief from convincing myself that I will fix it somehow. You know the phases that was always there and made me feel better somehow. This is impossible. This is just life. This is dating someone far away and it not being able to work out. There is nothing to mend. Nothing to change. The virus has made it impossible. I don’t know i’m just so sad. Would it be counter-productive to ask if he loved me since we never said it? I don’t even know if he or not. I guess that makes my relationship unhealthy. But I always felt that he did. He went entirely out of my his way at every point to make sure i was happy all of the time. When he was here whenever he would go out without me he always brought me back things that reminded him of me so many things. He remembered things about me always even from our months of skype he always stared at me and messaged me little things i was doing on a zoom call with others because he was watching me. I’ll just tell myself that he did love me. I won’t ask. I will come back later i feel like if i stay here i’ll just keep replying to myself I don’t know what do right now. It’s 4am I have no one to talk to. I am not going to sleep tonight.
MichelleParticipantThanks, Valora how I’m feeling exactly. Although I still have a lot of internal emotions I’m trying to get through. It’s like a breakup but not as bad as a romantic one thankfully. I appreciate your thoughtful response.
January 5, 2020 at 12:37 pm in reply to: Been Single for almost 10 years. Advice? (Trigger warning) #331223MichelleParticipantHi Chris,
I don’t know if I’m the best at giving advice but I read your story and your dating issues remind me of one of my very good friends. He is not bi-sexual but he desperately wants to find a girlfriend and has a hard time doing so. He has been trying for a few years now. I don’t know how much in common the two of you have but for my friend anyway, he is so desperate for a girlfriend that I think that shows and chases people away. If anyone shows any remote interest in him he is telling me if he thinks he can marry her or not. I’m always like it has been two dates! The fact is that he comes on too strong. Self love is an important part of this. I feel like you have to be comfortable with being single and have confidence in being alone that is an attractive quality in a mate.
Not to mention dating just sucks in general. It’s not easy to meet someone that you are compatible with and want to spend your life with. Don’t feel bad because it is taking time. I had a 4-year stretch where I must have went on over 100 dates and met no one significant. I have lots of friends who have been dating for a long time. I have other friends who are now in relationships but I remember that they dated for a long time. It is not totally out of the ordinary to take time to meet someone I think that is normal. As long as you are trying it’s impossible that you will be alone forever.
Also for the girl who was afraid of you being bi-sexual maybe you should bring that up earlier int he dating process even if it does limit your options more. By withholding that information you are wasting both of your time.
As for your parents, the only person who will have to live your life is you. While they are your parents and important parts of it I’m sure you should settle because of pressure from others. I have a difficult family even though they never pressured me to settle down. I am in my 30’s and I have moved out of the town where I grew up and talk to them frequently enough. That has really helped me but I don’t know if that is something you are willing to do. Although it would be a clean slate to be the true you if you feel like you can’t be yourself with them around. If not that perhaps try meeting people a town or two over?
MichelleParticipantI just briefly read your story Whelan and I know that you are sad. I went through a hard breakup last year but once you are out of the gray clouds you will be so thankful that you were strong enough to move past this person. You will read what you wrote here and say to yourself what was I thinking!
I have been in my share of toxic relationships in my life. I actually wasted my 20’s and early 30’s in them. I wished that I was strong enough to leave sooner and felt regret that I stayed but no matter the time span I believe that these obstacles make us stronger and are necessary to prepare us future situations in life.
Someone who does not invite you out with friends doesn’t take your relationship seriously or see you in their future. What are a relationship without love, trust, and companionship? He doesn’t want to be with you outside the home seems like a giant problem for me. He has created three times, maybe he doesn’t want you around so he can cheat again and you don’t need that. You are better than that.
I know what it is like to be on the inside and feeling sad grasping at the good, but from an outside point of view, it’s hard to fathom why you would want to be with this man. Be strong and you should prevail and find someone who treats you kind, involves you in his life, and makes you feel good. It took me a lot longer than I thought it would in my life but I did. Just be patient and try not to waste time on things that constantly make you feel bad. Life is too short for that! I know easier said than done.
You will get past this. Keeping a breakup journal really helped me.
October 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm in reply to: My Relationship Has an Expiration Date and It's Almost Time #316975MichelleParticipantI just wanted to leave a happy update for anyone in this situation as I feel people rarely update.
So we have kept this going with no expiration date. So far it has been great. We don’t have anything forced but talk regularly. Sad because he left again today after coming back to spend two weeks with me. It has been pretty seamless so far and we have our next trip planned and he’s actively trying to move here. On his most recent trip here he also spent time trying to speak with people who will result in a job interview here for him. We don’t plan on cutting communication or stopping plans to see each other any time soon.
Feeling ok, although every time he leaves again it is sad.
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