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We never discussed marriage, the last time he mentioned marriage was last year, Where he said us living together is a big step and this is where he sees if he wants to marry me, and since then we moved into our own place and away from his mom. The break came out of nowhere and he was the one who requested the break, he said he wanted to recreate himself etc. He said he feels that he allowed love to make him soft, and he doesnt know how long this break is going to be. Looking back at the relationship we both are aware of the silly mistakes we made and from my side i want to recreate a better US.. but ill have to wait and see what he decides. I hate letting him have his cake and eating it but its the best shot i have at getting back together with him. We both have invested everything into this relationship and because theres nothing majorly wrong with our life together its not as easy to just walk away.
LadybugParticipantHe and i both agreed to not tell anyone, theres many males within our social circle that he gyms with that has interest in me and he also is aware that many guys have interest whether its social media or in public so our social media, families and social acquaintances still see that we are in a relationship. In the beginning he wanted to be friends with benefits then he called us room mates but all of a sudden he seeks to be close to me, wants to do activities with me, shares all his ideas and gets bothered when im not paying too much attention to him, theres many things he says and does that gives me mixed signals. I even saw him watching an adorable video of the 2 of us. The password on hes computer is still our mutual nick name, he still has all our photos and memories on his phone, Our photo frames still hang on the wall in the house. He asks my opinion and advice all the time. But he still goes into his neutral un-attentive state and he tries at times not to look into my eyes. We dont hold hands, and kiss affectionately. He doesnt look at me the same, he doesnt communicate via text the same. The affection when we alone at home seems to be gradually growing so i do see a positive sign. He even tries to be playful, he tickels me and tries to make me laugh.
LadybugParticipantHe very much has come to grips with the affect his mother has had on his life and he doesnt give her enough amo to feel good as a mother even when she takes him to see a movie. She thinks her kids are her property and for that he will never respect her personality. He keeps his distance and doesnt seek for validation or approval from anyone let alone her. He is a very conscious being and this destructive pattern has only been recognized now. When he was 18 he got into his first real relationship and she was a manipulative liar but also a very bad influence in his life, for the most part she was fun and was an awesome girl. After like 3 years on and off he just felt the need to break free and go back to being single. She at that point was faking pregnancies(he only found out it was fake after they broke up) She kept the lies up well but all ended in “miss carriage” so anyway they broke up because he felt he needed more growing to do and he asked her for space and she completely turned into a psycho. She would cause drama everywhere he went and use sex to try rope him back in. Since then he has matured and grown dramatically. Hes friends are amazed at how he is with me and how perfect our relationship is. They all have been talking about us getting married and although he and i arent at that point yet i felt happy knowing that everyone sees that kind future for us and even he would call me his wife and talk about what his kids would be like. I never spoke of kids or marriage because i know that scares alot of men so he was always the one to give these subtle hints that he sees that future with me. So for a man feeling like he found the One and not doing well in his passion and career and struggling to provide it must be a anxious weight to carry. He did lose his spark as a man and for man who’s always been an alpha in life, hes became comfortable and settled and he feels that he cant be that comfortable because he hasnt achieved his goals yet. Last night when he came home i was just laying in bed reading and he was very much in the mood to chat, i was very occupied in my reading and he was just trying really hard to get my attention saying ” why you ignoring me? i want to speak to you” and he just continued to share his day and asked if i want to assist him in writing his Bio (its for that woman who he now works with) i made a joke and declined helping him saying a bio is something he need to do on his own. He then starting goofing around saying ” Oh so we do things by ourselves around here… okay” and i just laughed and said yeah thats how it works and he continued to goof about us doing things on our own. We then watched a movie, a very romantic sweet movie that we both could relate to and when sad parts came he just looked at me and later he asked how close to crying was i? After the movie he just wanted to make out…
I miss calling him babe or by the nick name we call eachother, i miss holding his hand and hugging him. I miss playfully kissing him and telling him I love him and hearing him say it back. Im sure once he gets a grip on his emotions and life he will feel more comfortable doing all those things again but i know its going to take time and i miss being loved and cherished.
LadybugParticipantHe currently has a wall up towards his mother but he still seeks to visit his family and when she shows any narcissistic signs he just glances at me and laughs or smiles. she is the type of woman that loves to play the victim or loves to be the centre of attentions and loves to feel pitied but in return she throws horrible passive aggressive comments like daggers and suger coats it with a smile or laugh. so we dont entertain her too much. Hes mother divorced his father when he was 7 and his father was very religious and strict… But eventually his father also faded out of his life and still today he barely has a connection with his dad. His mother has kicked him out of the house many times due to her mental problems. She is diagnosed and she isnt able to work anymore because of her mental issues. She for years was accusing her mother of sending demons to haunt her and they have been moving from house to house every time his mother has a mental break down and blames demons haunting her and making her sick. So for a young boy he has moved to 7 different schools and about 20 different homes. His mother has significantly caused inconsistency in his life. although for the most part he functions very well as a evolved being and he is an amazing person but it seems his upbringing imbalances comes out when he fails. He always told me that his mother use to shout and swear when he got homework wrong. She use to scream with so much anger that the saliva would come from her mouth. He clearly fears failure and he has been programmed by his mothers aggression at a young age that theres horrible repricutions to failing. And now he doesn’t even accept failure from himself. The funniest part is that today he went to go see a movie with his mom. She pretents to be caring and giving but its only her amo to later use against you.
LadybugParticipantThank you, Yes i guess i will have to face the reality that hes on and off fazes are deeper routed than i thought. I hate seeing him struggle with life and his career because i absolutely love and adore him. As a good girlfriend i am willing to wait for him to come around but once he is back to his senses we will have to have a chat about these deep routed issues, i wont force anything.. but id like him to start by at least recognizing this life destructive pattern. I love him and something about our relationship is irreplaceable. I love him down to his soul and i always want whats best for him. I will not rush him and i will allow him his space to heal. I will do my best at being a positive influence not only for him but for myself, i cant allow his hot and cold moods get to me too much during this break. He reads a book called “How to unfuck yourself” and he seem to get great relief from the knowledge he gains in the book. He is obsessed with his career so our schedule is based around his training and thats okay because i love supporting him and watching him do what he loves. His diet has to be clean during his fight camp and i keep the house tidy to minimize his responsibilities when hes focusing leading up to a fight. He sucks at doing house hold chores and im a much better cook than he is so he loves me fore balancing out his lack of skill in certain areas. He barely has time for friends or family because of his training hours, having a girlfriend is the most ideal situation he can be in for the path of his focus and career. He isnt able to see the great value i bring right now but thats okay because i know im an amazing selfless woman.
LadybugParticipantHe had previously asked for a break last year, the sudden request for a break came after he faced a loss in his career. he never showed signs that it was still affecting him. He and i even spent a weekend at my sisters place and he had a great time, but in that week he started being distant and cold and at that time he stayed quite a distance from me so we only communicated via text and saw each other once a week but he became very quite and “occupied” i obviously felt sad about the distance and we got into a small argument which led to him asked for a break and i couldn’t understand why he needed a break when we barely see each other, so i broke down and sent him a million texts trying to gain clarity and what he had said felt like a stab straight to my heart. He told me he had been fantasizing about other women and that he needed to break free for a bit, he said that spending that weekend at my sisters freaked him out imagining being settled and with kids. He said he needed a week an if he doesn’t make a move on anybody he will know his love for me is real. I went into depression, i was in so much pain and anxiety i couldn’t eat, i barely slept, and i couldn’t speak to anyone about what had happened so i locked myself in my room for days and barely came out. I sent him so many texts asking him to be there for me but he just said that i needed to let the time pass and that i must be strong. after the third day i wanted to take my life and i told him the pain is too much and that i felt sick. He then rushed to meet up with me, When we met up he admitted that he doesnt know whats wrong with him and that he knows it has something to do with his loss, he then admitted to lieing about desiring other women and said he didnt know how else to push me away. After our meetup i stopped texting him so much and tried to get out of my depression so i met up with friends and started getting out, he started texting and checking up on me but i didnt respond or if i did i responded very neutral. He then asked if i was moving on, and i told him that my friends suggest i speak to other guys to get him off my mind and suddenly he wanted to talk more and he started chatting to me and i could tell he was trying to get close again. he then asked to see me but i told him that its going to take time before i trust him again and he agreed and understood. He came to see me and he apologized and tried to get me to eat again. I kept my safe distance but he felt bad at the sight of the broken woman he loves and he grabbed and hugged me and started to cry. we both cried and eventually landed up making love. He had to do alot of fixing after that because i didn’t trust him as much. But a few months later we landed up moving in together and when living with his mom failed he invested a lot of his money into us moving out on our own which was a dream come true for us. And we’v been happy ever since….
Until he lost that fight 2 months ago.. and i become overbearing and i told him im feeling uneasy because the last time he lost a fight he started acting a certain way then asked for a break. And he said he understood my fears and a month later he did exactly that… he asked for this current break.
LadybugParticipantWe both use to be very social beings, we loved exploring and over the past 2 years we just strayed from everyone else and got caught up in our love bubble, we got comfortable and set in a day to day pattern that didnt help us grow as young adults. My boyfriend is all about living to the fullest and experiencing lifes adventures so another reason his questioning our relationship is that its getting so serious, we started arguing about stupid things and we weren’t being youthful and adventures anymore. I want us to incorporate that adventuress side back into our relationship, we felt like a boring married couple and i want us to be that spontaneous vibrant people we once were when we met. I obviously cant ask him for this.. i will have to just initiate spontaneous adventures and surprise him for a bit.
LadybugParticipantI do think that this is just a faze, i do see gradual improvements but not enough to feel secure in our relationship. He still seems to be a little bit heavy in his energy. I can tell because i am very motivated and happy within myself, i try and be as optimistic about everything and he still lets the small stuff get to him. He was always the positive one when i was pessimistic. Today is our anniversary and obviously we are on a break and im feeling quite sad because im still in love with him and i just want things to get better between us. I play motivational videos around him, we watch movies that display good love stories. He still brings me to his family gatherings. When we are watching movies or something and i try sit close to him and be affectionate and he seems to be unresponsive or neutral but the moment i give him space by sitting away from him or sit somewhere else to go do something he calls me back and asks why i dont want to watch the movie with him or want to sit with him and he looks at me with these puppy eyes, This is all very confusing, but i know i cant just tell him to snap out of it or pressure him into being in a relationship with me again so i have no choice but to sit and wait. He knows he wont lose me and that i feel he is taking for granted in which hes taking his time. Its not fair on me to put my needs on hold for a man who doesnt know whether he wants to be with me or not. This may just be a hickup for us to grow as individuals in our long life together, Its hard to know what hes looking for within himself or me and thats why i am just growing in all aspects and its been amazing because despite this break i have been quite happy and feeling good within myself.
LadybugParticipantThank you Anita.
I definitely worry a lot when it comes to the possibility of him cheating. Im an extremely faithful girlfriend and i stick by his side through everything. I have no idea how long this break is going to last. I work all day so he stays at home and currently has a knee injury. He really beats himself up when he does nothing for the entire day, last night we went to go see a movie which was really nice although hes mood is always neutral, i stay happy and positive. Back when we started this break and i completely broke down for 2 weeks crying non stop. He had told me that he needs change and that he doesnt know how long this break is going to be nor did he know whether he will get back together with me. He said he cant give that much of himself right now and that he needed to give his heart, mind and time to his career. This break came after i had sent him a long text of how unhappy and insecure i was feeling. I at the time felt responsible for his low motivation, low drive, and lack of passion for life. I thought he didn’t love me as much, and resulted in me overbearing him with all my needs and demands. He was clearly battling so much feeling of failure and i only added my happiness to that list which made him feel even more incompetent as a man. Since that horrible period, i have taken full responsibility for my happiness and although he still struggles daily to be positive and motivated, i keep my happy, nurturing, loving energy around the house. Although his struggle is hard to watch and makes me feel helpless. i have realized that i cant take responsibility for his happiness. Everyday i keep a positive mindset, i allow him to be affectionate and playful when hes in the mood. But we still keep boundaries due to the break, we dont hold hands or kiss.. Only time we kiss is when we have sex and since its that lady time of the month he has been taking care of himself. I give him time and opportunity to come to me instead of overwhelming him. He is so useto me being talkative non stop and now im more quiet and in my own world reading or on my phone, at times he even has to ask me why im ignoring him because hes in the mood to chat( its never anything important, he just wants to talk to me about random topics) He kinda treats me like a best friend/girlfriend and im happy to be there for him but im a woman and i also have needs of emotional connection and passionate love. I have experienced his passionate, devoted love before and this is a step back in our relationship. And i only hope this break makes our love even better.
LadybugParticipantThank you.
I will definitely take that advice. I did have this worry that he may be keeping his options open. He has recently decided to work with a mutual acquaintance who is going to help him build up his career(market related) and help him get sponsorship etc. This woman attends our gym and she has shown major signs of attraction for my boyfriend, shes a beautiful bubble woman. Its very upsetting to see him out of the blue seek her expertise. I try my best to act as though im not concerned or insecure about their new business arrangements but it does bother me alot. He shares alot with me so he keeps me up to date on what they are busy with and last night he was filling me in on what took place during their meeting and he then told me she has very weird eyes and he gave me many examples of how she looks a little retarded when she laughs… I was already cringing inside because the fact hes even speaking about her but then he started making fun of her, not sure if he did that so that i dont feel insecure about her or if he is making fun of her to hide his interest in her. I just brushed the conversation off and changed the subject. My boyfriend use to be a huge player and hes friends are still very big players, one currently has a girlfriend but is fooling around with an older woman. My boyfriend completely changed when he met me, he became extremely protective and we created a very trusting relationship. Im so afraid that he may try seek out that old life of his and do what hes friend is doing to his girlfriend. My boyfriend and i have grown and changed so much since we met that its unreal to even imagine him cheating on me.
I guess i cant stop him from cheating or whatever he decides to do. I can only be the best girlfriend i can be. I know he also has fears of me meeting someone else.
Hes level of affection seems to be growing, hes slowly opening up and dropping his walls but im also guarding myself of disappointment because ive seen how his best friend manages to cheat on his girlfriend and pretends to be very loving and the poor girl tells me how much she trusts him.
LadybugParticipantAnother thing that i have picked up is when im quiet and just doing my own thing, whether its reading or busy on my phone at night he pesters me and asks what im doing, and when i ask him what he wants he just says ” i dont know… i just want to talk to you” but when i ask him what he wants to talk about he doesnt seem to know what he wants to talk about and then he just says ” fine.. okay” and leaves me to do what i was doing. I wonder whether he deeply desires talking about the elephant in room but not sure if its a good time. He has moments of loving nature but then he also has these cold moments where his blunt and disconnected so its very difficult to read how he truly feels about me.
LadybugParticipantHe might have a tendency to want to be cared for and nurtured at times, so that leads me to believe he does seek a motherly type of care from his girlfriend. He also is a ruthless MMA fighter who shows no mercy nor weakness so him being vulnerable with me scares me because im afraid due to his current quarter life crisis he will push me away due to the vulnerability he feels with me. He has a crazy need to be invincible and limitless and he feels that a relationship can restrict him and enable him to reach his full potential. He obviously felt he wasnt succeeding in our relationship before the break and he also wasnt succeeding in his career… he literally struggled to motivate himself on a daily bases. Since we’ve been on a break i have given him space and have not made him feel like he has to answer to me, So with this freedom he has managed to get himself out of the gutter and find his passion and drive for his career again. But he still is battling with financial problems and i am the only one who has a steady income. Money has never been a problem in our relationship because i fell inlove with him and never pressured him into providing for me. Still today i never make it his responsibility to provide, he is chasing his dreams and i fully support him win or lose. We have such a great support system and foundation to our life.. i have been his number one fan and an amazing girlfriend (The perfect girlfriend) he would say. He says we got stuck in a pattern and thats why we began to argue and butt heads. We dont talk about the break or our relationship… we just chat, laugh, play, cook and go about our business with the elephant in the room. I want to wait till he is ready to speak about us. i indirectly drop hints to show him ive matured and am in a much happier place. He may start to get comfortable with this idea of no commitment but getting all the best parts of having a girlfriend which i want to avoid. I feel that he is slowly getting attached to me again and i need him to really remember how amazing our relationship can be before i raise the steaks of losing me. He needs to remember that we have a irreplaceable bond and love. Im waiting for the right time where he will try behave territorial over me and i want to make it clear that he has requested a break and he doesnt have the right to take ownership of me… hoping that will encourage him to commit. Is that a good approach? or what should i do?
LadybugParticipantThank you Anita.
I have taken your advice on making him feel im okay with the “relationship” that he is having with me.
Its difficult to see him have mixed feelings about being in a relationship with me. i have been looking out for both positive and negative signs and so far he is undoubtedly conflicted inside. He has a major obsession with being one of the best MMA fighters. He doesnt allow himself to be too absorbed into his feelings for me so he distracts himself.
We went out with my male friends the other night ( he said that im always hanging out with him and hes friends so its only fair that he come out with me and my friends) that statement alone gave me a positive sign. So the whole night he seemed to be quite protective of me when my male friend tried to get close or connect with me too much. For the first time i felt overwhelmed with his clingy behavior when my friend was dancing too close. That night when we got home he had a lot to say about my friend being pathetic and that hes going to try get along with him. He keeps talking about what he’d like us to do together, like go to dance classes and he even said we should dance more around the house cause it creates good vibes. But even with hes jealousy, he still has this mixed feelings. he sometimes seems emotionally disconnected and then at times he says hes a baby and wants me to hold him and play with his hair. He seems to be very lost in the emotions department ( which he usually has a control on). I just would like to know what would be the best thing for me to do to win his heart and mind over.
LadybugParticipantThank you. I am definitely considering this approach because right now he has full control due to knowing i am still inlove with him. he wants to go see a movie, he takes me places with him and he checks up on me when he senses some distance. all this caring behavior yet he says we still on a break. while im at work he doesnt text me if he does its very blunt and emotionless. but as soon as he fetches me he seems happy to see me and wants to have bubbly conversations he even speaks in hes gentle loving voice. I have made changes to my approach and mind in hopes to get a reaction out of him and so far its drawn him closer. he was very cold and emotionless towards me when i was going through my depression. i have to take responsibility for being needy during our relationship and also not following my dreams, but when i asked him to give me a chance to change and to improve our relationship he was dealing with his own inner crises and didnt have the patients and strength to endure back and forth relationship emotional negotiations. he says he has to focus on himself and his career and he doesn’t care what sacrifices it takes. so at this point hes not mentally ready to be won over by a relationship, we are so very close and this is the guy who said he wants to love me forever and he was looking at sharing a future with me but things got very complicated and we started clashing heads alot after his last failure(his an MMA fighter) about 2 months ago. he wasnt being the man i know him to be and that caused me to become overbearing and at times needed to mother him cause his lack of initiative and motivation. He may have been going through a depression without me knowing and i may have come across as a horrible woman at a time he felt vulnerable. so now hes put up so much walls regarding our relationship and i feel that i just need to give it time and slowly prove to him that this break has grown me into a different woman and im in a much better and mature headspace. Our relationship has been a great responsibility for him and he did everything to keep me happy but that in the end costed him his happiness and freedom which i feel wasnt fair and i want to desperately show him i trust him and want to do whatever it takes to bring him happiness as he did for me. Time is the only thing that can heal him at this point, he turns to me for any kind of support and to share his progress with. Hes talking about jobs that he can bring in extra money and buying a car as we current move around on a scooter. So as messed up as it seems theres so many signs that he isnt ready to completely let go, he just feels alot of pressure as a man and girlfriend emotional responsibilities are alot to take on during this battle his facing. He wants me to be independent and strong so thats what im striving for. He openly shares his attraction for me and he opens up about his vulnerable side that nobody else sees so my female mind is in distress because of the title not being clear but i feel if i just take into account his actions, he very much still wants to be with me, he just needs more evidence of a healthier, happier and more independent woman. If i suspect anymore dishonest behavior i will simply call him out and break up with him. I dont care if we still live together, he is very affected by my cold treatment and it pains him but i will then focus on myself completely and not nurture his feelings and ego any longer.
LadybugParticipantThat seems to make alot of sense, but I don’t feel that it could be all routed to something so simple. I’ve made a new discovery on what he visioned for us as a couple and how reality hasn’t played out that way.
Sso as a young couple when we started dating he always said he wants us to always push each other to grow. He’s big on living life to the fullest and always evolving but what we both got caught up in the chaos of living together and started focusing our attention on the negative and less on ways to grow and motivate each other. We both became emotionally drained because of the arguments. We lost sight of our goal and started focusing on the irrelevant and haven’t moved forward in life. He hates that he doesn’t know how to contribute to my life to help me get closer to my goals and he feels we have been arguing about meaningless stuff which only has made him bitter. He was so busy trying to make me happy he lost sight of his own desires and goals in life. He’s afraid if the relationship is going to steal thag from him again. He said he feels very focused during this break and he has that blood hunger for life again. Since I’ve gotten a wake up call to how who I wanted to be in life and that was a driven and adventurers woman. I am guilty for allowing love to make me lose sense of who I am or what I want out of life. But since we’ve been on this break I see things so much clearer and I have this new drive and motivation to get the old me back and also I see exactly what I did wrong in the relationship. I am comfortable with my self growth now and I am still very in love with my boyfriend, I can obviously not convince him that I have woken up from my sleep in the relationship and would like to prove to him I am motivated to grow with him. Talking about my improvements won’t convince him so I’ve been trying to subtly show him. He probably feels that I’m not the right woman for him due to my lack of self growth but he has still been encouraging me to go to gym with him, he brought me lunch to work the other day and we even went to see a movie earlier in the week. All this has taken place during our “Break” in the rationship. He went away for the weekend and before he left Thursday morning our alarm went off and he snoozed it and brought me closer to him to cuddle, He landed up snoozing his alarm 5 times and continued cuddling me.
So what I’m looking for is advice on how to approach him to actively show I’m wanting to grow with him. He gets uneasy talking about relationship stuff during the break and feel pressuring him about our relationship only drives him further away so naturally just giving him his space and not texting him all day has been much more productive. My more cool neutral responses gives him the space to pursue me instead of me chasing after him to prove I’m in a different mind space.
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