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Kenneth Vogt

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    Kenneth Vogt
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    There are insular groups out there and you can be jousting at windmills trying to get into them. Better to look for communities or groups that are more open. And of course, if you want friends, be a friend. It is not enough to be merely friendly.

    #30336
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    As the adage goes:

    Before enlightenment, carry water and chop wood.

    After enlightenment, carry water and chop wood.

    Your work doesn’t necessarily exist solely to serve your purpose but you can demonstrate your purpose in most work. Sometimes we set the bar too high for our job. It doesn’t have to be the complete embodiment of our purpose. If your work is such that you can find no means to demonstrate your purpose, find new work. But likely you can find ways big and small to align the job with who you are.

    #30321
    Kenneth Vogt
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    I find it interesting that professing Christians often view meditation with suspicion. Yet King David wrote many beautiful psalms about his regular meditative practice and his meditations. The apostle Paul recommended meditating on the things we have learned. Jesus himself began his ministry with a 40 day meditation and continued to seek out solitude to meditate after that. The walking meditation above maps quite well to the contemplation that many saintly individuals have practiced and recommended. In short, they ought to be no barrier for any person of Judeo-Christian heritage to meditate.

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    I like how Frank put it that “reality is just a sub-set of spirituality”. People often think of reality as “over here” and spirituality as “over there”. There is no “over there”.

    Rather than make spirituality bigger though, I like to make it smaller, more succinct. So spirituality boils down to this for me: love, joy, peace, goodness, faith, kindness, mildness, long suffering, and self control.

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    Kenneth Vogt
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    The relative spirituality of the founder of a religion (and mostly they didn’t intend to be), the religious organization, and individual adherents vary greatly. It is no wonder that people find the claim that all religions lead to the same place as dubious. Religion is a framework that can but does not guarantee to lead to spirituality. It is the adherence to spiritual principles that makes for a spiritual person. If their religion teaches and promotes such principles, it is a support for their spirituality.

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