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Katrine NielsenParticipant
Yes! Good idea. I’m gonna be my best self and show him what he is missing out on. I have two days off and I am meeting up with some girls from work tomorrow and we are having brunch. I need to go out and have a little fun as well.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Tee,
We didn’t have fixed seats but because of my anxiety i felt better staying in one spot and talking to the people there. Yes i too think he is still signaling interest. At our friends housewarming i was furthes away in a corner on the small terrasse, i was hard to get to, and he ended up standing right next to me. To me it seams that he is interested but doesn’t know/want to be in a relationship. He said he struggles with showing love(and our friend saying that he has zero confidence) , and since he is soon moving to another country i think it would be too much for him. The guy i was with earlier this year, he said that we should’t get too close since he didn’t know if he could stay and the closer we got to him leaving the more he shut down and got just a little bit irritated.
I still have feelings that will take some time for me. And I am embarrased to say, i do a lot of the same behaviour that he is showing. My low self asteem has me getting defensive and self sabotaging (colleagues asking me to have drinks after work and I kept refusing yet walked out of there feeling rejected which is stupid) i have also tried to make him jealous. And months ago i asked a guy from work out for breakfast right in front of him without asking him if he wanted to join, only because I was too nervous to ask him. Asking any other guy, joking with them never a problem but with him it harder he’s the same i am the only one he’s nervous around. Same with the push pull dynamic. So I have a lot of inner child wounds to atend to and heal and not be such a hypocrite. It just harder to tell when it’s myself because i know my intentions but other people don’t.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Tee,
Yes I think so with time. I’m gonna be my best self and show him that this is his loss.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Tee,
I made me uncomfortable and even more so since i was a fish out of water (don’t like when people gets drunk) i stayed put and tried to talk with the people around me. I didn’t want to move since that was my spot and I didn’t want him to drive me out of that one. Him joining my room and not the one with the two girls(my friends and colleagues) was a bit weird to me.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Anita,
It means everything. Knowing i am not going crazy and that i can trust my perception is just a huge relief! And it will help me next time i am starting to pick up signals from someone. To meet them half way and not bee so avoident for so long, is definitly better to open up sooner.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Anita
Good to hear from you. I’m feeling a bit on and off. The staff party was hard on me. So many people at that party and he was there. He did smile and say hi, but it was hard for me because he was mingling and talking with everybody then he walked over at stood right next to me slipping his drink not saying anything. There was so much space in that party bus, so him standing that close was really hard(expecially since I’m not good at these parties) then we had to do an escape room and not only was he (and the two girls) there (like great i have to be locked in a room with you for an hour) our group then got divided into two groups ( i was standing in the front for the small room and they were standing in the back for the bigger room) we had to solve a code to get into the same room. Then he jumped into my group(for the small room) and she told us that one had to join the big group because our room was gonna be smaller but he stayed so someone else had to join the big group. That was a bit uncomfortable for me it felt weird.
I’m still talking it over with my friends. Talked with a guy that he works reception with and he also said that this screams that he did like me. Talking about this particular part is extremely helpful. I think it comes from having my reality denied so many times.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Tee,
I have always felt like if i have a partner then i can do anything. Mening that having just one person in your corner that likes you and all the health benefits you get from hugging someone that loves you. It was like having a man sleeping next to me calmed my nervous system. We as humans are wired for human conection and I have been alone my entire life. No boyfriends (same cycle. Guy shows interest through long time i start believing it, takes a step forward then gets ghosted) never been good at keeping friendships. Once we don’t work or go to the same school we lise contact. So all my life i have worked towards being good emough. Cuz if I were then i would have people in my life.
The staff party was hard because one everybody gets wasted, they are not the selve and I get jeloux. Seeing them cling and flirt with the guy i like. They said some months ago that he was sending me good signals and that they would help me out with him because of my anxiety, but they never did. They kept seeing him as a group outside of work without including me and I think that’s why i hurts extra. I feel like they betrayed my trust, and not acting very much like friends.
They only have this flirting behaviour when they all get drunk. I don’t like drunk people, you never know what the will do.
He (the cute guy) also made me a bit uncomfortble. He did smile and say hi to me, then he mingled and talked with everybody, but then decided to walk up and stand right next to me for a long time just sipping his drink not talking just standing close to me(there was plenty of space got him to stand else where) that hurt me. It was awkward.
Katrine NielsenParticipantI am fortunatly not in physically pain any more,but I am working 11 days in a row to help pay for this treatment so not a lot of rest. Sleep has always been a problem because of my PTSD, the only time i have had a time with a 6-7 hour nights sleep was when a lived with the guy i was with earlier this year.
I have a lot of patterns to u learn. I’ve found out that I’m quite the hypocrite. Most of the hurtful things the cute guy did, I have done myself. So i am not really in a potition to be mad at him.
I think compassion is the key here, we both have a lot of self sabotaging behaviour to try and keep us safe, but really it only does the opposite. I nearly cancelled my housewarming because they were late. My anxiety took over and said they don’t care and they don’t really want to be here. You might as well cancel. Also trying to be very i dependent, like i don’t need anybody i have myself. Self sabotaging behaviour has been a very big blindspot. Couldn’t begin to see it until i got diagnosed.
The feeling of being left out still hurts. I went home early from the staff party yesterdaylike i always do. Being in a party setting and everybody being drunk and a ting out is not my thing. It also makes me feel jeloux. Seeing my two friends cling to the guy i like for obvious reasons. But also seeing everybody having fun while drinking. It send me back to High school. Always feeling like the odd man out, and that I’m suposed to enjoy it. I just doesn’t.
Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Tee,
1) yes that feeling of going crazy because I thought he liked me and then being rejected was extremely painful. I am very protective of myself and doesn’t usually ask a man out on a date. But the more i think it over and the way he acts around my female colleagues i am now certain that his rejection wasn’t because because of a lack of feelings but something else. This us a emormous relief! I am better at reading people than i give myself credit for.
I’m also learning about psychology, trauma responses, attachment styles etc. To learn about how it all affects our behaviour. This is really helpful. Trauma makes you react in I rational ways. Like when the guy i liked started to make a pass at me, i bolted and ended up with a guy that i knew wasn’t good for me. Or all the times i cancel led plans with my friends because i was convinced that they didn’t really like me, even though they kept showing me that they did (self dabotaging behaviour, pushing away the people closets to me)
2) i am getting better at seeing the patterns in my behaviour. Like my anxiety with a guy only kicks in when I’m starting to attach or really like the person. It’s when it gets vulnerable and there’s a change that i could get rejected. Both me and him weren’t in any way awkward with each other the first one or two months. That happened after pretty much at the same time. Here is where i need to learn not to shut down and ignored the person. But to take a step forward and be vulnerable to show him, you are making advances at me and I accept those advances. Not expect him to be a mindreader.
3)learning to communicate. Since both me and him are very indirect to protect ourselves there’s too much room for misunderstandings. Speaking up for myself and being authentic. Try to repair any damage instead of cutting people of without trying to fix it. It’s a proces but I’m getting better.
3) try not to take things too personally. In Regards to his birthday party, is not exactly new that they go partying together without me. They have been doing that for months and they know his friends well now. I also really don’t like these parties which they know. a
Looking at him with compassion. After all we have a lot in common in our behaviour. We both have trauma, anxiety and diagnosis. And we are both working on it, it is not a smooth sailing by any means.
I am also exhausted. I am a month in on 3-4 hour sleep every night, overtime 9-10 shifts in a row, heart ache, two weeks in extreme pain and health expensive that’s gonna cost me four times my rent. Am my short holiday of going home to family couldn’t go because flight tickets were way too expensive.
Katrine NielsenParticipantYes i would like that. Maybe that would help me react less to when i am being rejected, or feeling like i am being rejected.
Katrine NielsenParticipantYes. That’s probably why i react so strongly to rejection. I feel it’s my whole being that’s worthless
Katrine NielsenParticipantThe girl who was flirting with him that day in the bar was a guest. She stayed for two weeks and after that night she kept coming to the café and reception to ask about him.
Katrine NielsenParticipantYeah. I mean i believe this is a fear of intimacy. Because the closer we got the more anxious he be came, exactly like i react. When he started working here in april he wasn’t awkward or nervous around me at all. And neither was i around him. It wasn’t until we started going to the bar that we started getting really nervous around each other. And the day he came to my house (personal sphere) he started getting more and more anxious which was at a High the day of the yoga date. I think i am returning to the old patterns of emotional unavailable person being atracted to an emotional unavailable person. Like they say if you get butterflies it’s a bad sign. I didn’t get any butterflies with the guy earlier this year and that’s one of the reasons i was like about to bolt. But then i thought about it logically, is he my type, do I like him and do I feel good when i am with him. And that was a clear yes. Then after we started dating and it felt soo weird and uncomforteble, but then the butterflies came and it started feeling the way i thought it was suposed to.
Katrine NielsenParticipantI said i shut down because of my anxiety, it only happens when i really like someone so really it’s a compliment. I’ts rare i react this strongly about someone. And then he said a lot of nice things about i had nothing to apologize for and he talked about how he also deals with anxiety.
IT comes on top of one the girls (the one adding pressure on me before the date) asking people to join her after work for drinks (last friday and today) but didn’t included me. Do now i feel both heartbroken and like i am slowly being cut off for some reason.
Katrine NielsenParticipantYes. It even made me cry. Because now i feel like i am in no mans land you know. We always had(and still have that awkward tention) because of his behaviour towards me since april has been a sign that we had something going on romantically. But then after the “date” we were still talking well but still some awkward tention between us, and he was still calling me by nickname so I thought at least we are still friends. But now I feel like I’m not even that but just a colleague. Which i really rought because i feel like we have a history (even though we never actually dated) and now I don’t know what to make of my self.
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