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April 20, 2016 at 2:34 am #102327JVRParticipant
Dear Anita,
To answer your questions:
What was the beauty in this relationship?: She was there for me every time, I was down, She made me laugh, be happy, confident, cry, but also, made me go through a lot of hardships as long as my personal space and time for myself is concerned. She is like a two sides of the coin(she is too good, when she is good and happy) (too bad, when she is not happy or stressed, because of her stubborn nature). I find this relationship beautiful because, she pulled me up, when I was in a time of morally low, with low self esteem and was living a life of dull and boring life(just for the sake of living) isolating myself from everyone and just spending empty and blank days altogether)
What was the meaning in this relationship to you?: As you know, I’m not living with my parents for the past 5 years, I live in a different state(but, visiting them, once in every two months). Since I was missing my mom and that feeling was lingering in me every single day, when she came into my life and started taking care of me(mostly virtually and often physically), I felt her like my mom both loving, caring, nurturing with genuine interests about my emotional and physical well being, but always strict and getting things done in her own way…this means, if she wants me to do something, which benefits her beliefs, I must do it, else, she literally threatens me that, she will leave me.. so, I used to get scared of leaving this relationship and did everything and once that is done, she is happy again and will get back to me in the same way she used to be..Now, I’m realizing that, I have exhibited the same nature which was ingrained in me by my father and I didn’t had the courage to say no to this women, when I really didn’t wanted to do it..
Now, I feel, there was no meaning at all for all the time and energy and my personal space and love, I have invested in this relationship..
What was the joy you experienced?: Being with her, gives me the inner strength, I feel like, I can do anything, if I’m with her and I will be confident in doing it, and that’s the way, she treated me…I”m not sure, if I’m even putting it in the right way, Its just a feeling, I”m not able to explain correctly.. feeling so confused…
April 18, 2016 at 8:18 pm #102187JVRParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for guiding me and providing the motivation to be courageous and be my authentic self!!! It goes a long way.. I have decided to write about this 1.6 years relationship as it is..that’s the way it should be as I feel, since I don’t want to hide or run away from telling how I feel about this relationship…
It was the most beautiful, meaningful and joyous relationship, I have ever had with anyone…But..it was not an understanding one… Since, I don’t want to blame her for anything, I’m just minimizing the You did it or she did it, those kind of words.. pardon me, if it is too much confusing or being magnanimous, not to hurt anyone, even in words…
AND I QUOTE:
By all standard definitions, She used to be an energy vampire. She lived in her own self-created drama, prone to rages, complaints, and self-pity. she exhausted the people around her and played games of control, superiority, and victim hood.
I’ve heard this bundle of behaviors called a “personality type,” and I think that is as obscene as saying that a hungry person has a “Hungry Personality Type.”
An energy vampire, by definition, is someone who cannot create or sustain their own positive energy, so they take it from others. An energy vampire, by my own experience of that definition, is someone lacking in self-love and trying to pull that love out of others.
Such a person is simply hungry, not inherently flawed. This is exactly who she was!! when I started to see her from a third person’s perspective…
This made me curious and intrigued me to get closer to her, to find out why is she like this? and what is making her to do like this?? Since she was my distant and far distant relative,(we live in the same city)…but relationship is distant…
So, I started getting closer to her on a normal level, everyday chats, calls and sharing common and general things…over a period of time, I came to know, she had a very trouble and abusive childhood, being the first daughter and only daughter, she had to take care of her life and her brother’s life at the age of 16. Living with an abusive father was not so easy for her…I understood that…
The real twist in her life came, when she got married, her partner was exactly the opposite way she expected him to be..more abusive and more dangerous(hurts her every single day through words and actions, but not physical abuse). He loved her so much, to an extent that, he started suffocating her…for 19 years…So, I really felt, I should really help this person to come out of her beliefs and sorrows and to comfort her, make her happy and feel loved for who she is and she was….(since I was also going through same kind of relationship issues with my partner, but not for this long)…
So, it happened that we both were looking for a vent, an emotionally supportive person, who can offer a shoulder to lean on and cry, when you feel down…a person, with whom, you can be yourself, sharing and caring about anything under the sun… and not judgmental, for who you are, but to look at you and be with you for who you are even in spite of all the flaws and shortcomings….of course, all of us have flaws..
I’m stopping here..More to come..In the meanwhile, let me know, what do you think, about my behavior in this part..Was it right for me that I did it? or should I have waited for some more time to get to understand this person better and then should’ve been closer to her as I am today? What do you think?
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April 15, 2016 at 12:07 am #101917JVRParticipantHello Anita,
Thank you so much for your insightful thoughts. I would like to open a new thread, in a new name, since the person, whom I have that 1.5 yrs relationship knows about tinybuddha and she reads these blogs occasionally. Will it be ok, if I start a new topic in a different name and share about that relationship?
April 6, 2016 at 8:09 am #101018JVRParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your insights… What you said is true.. I have been a puppet all along.. but, off late, I’m slowly developing the courage to say No to things or people or situations, which I really need to say NO, and trying my level best in being polite and in being heard in an aggressive way.. I just need to wait to see how it all works out…
By the way, did you happen to read my replies for Lakra and the one post above your last post? I need some directions and help on that, on how to deal with this person who has been in my life for the past 1.5 yrs or so…
I’m still confused on how to deal with it, since I feel, I’m being either manipulated or I’m overthinking, fearing the unknown…not sure, how to work this out….
Thank you so very much, once again for all your helpful thoughts and guidance.
April 4, 2016 at 7:08 am #100793JVRParticipantHello Lakra,
Thank you so much for the time and efforts taken to read and respond to my blurting outs…..Yes, very often I feel like, I’m the one compromising and I’m giving in too much, just because, I can’t see them being unhappy or moody, just because, I denied their happiness by not saying NO to them. I know, it’s wrong or somewhat confused to behave like this, but, still my dad’s way of bringing me up or toning me up has made me into what I’ am today…I just say yes to everything and would do anything, just to see them or make them happy, many times, going out of the way to do it.. question, is? am I trying to impress upon them? or am I trying to lure them, by keeping them happy, so that they will never leave me and be with me always? even though most of the times, I’m getting manipulated and being treated like a door mat, as you said….once the job is done, I will be treated as an outsider and they hurt me by doing something, and they don’t even feel a remorse for the mistakes they have committed…
Especially, when it comes to relationship, I’m not sure, if im not able to accept people as they are and who they are and letting go of certain things, which bothers me much…or I don’t even, know, if I”m expecting too much from everyone, just because,I’m making them happy, whenever they want or need…
Your insights are very helpful and thoughtful, but won’t I alienate people, If I say no to them and they wont feel happy about it? I’m afraid that my list will grow shorter and I may loose genuine people? or am I still confused….I’m sorry, that I’m just not able to think straight at this point, since the relationship I had with her has drained me so much.. that, I cant pass a single day without being with her or think about her all the time, even though, I know, she is manipulating and hiding the truth….
April 4, 2016 at 6:47 am #100792JVRParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your insights… Those are great.. But.. for your question, about my parents brutal love??? Yes, it was Love, at least that’s what I feel, because like every parent, with only a single and first male child in the family, they always wanted the best for me and was trying to bring out the best in me.. but completely in a dominating way.. every time….So, I’m not sure, how to see the Real him.. because, i can’t imagine or vizualise anything about him, except him being like a commander giving orders and me, like a soldier, ready to obey and carry out those orders.. even today…I will try practising saying no to him, if I really feel, I shouldn’t be doing it, just for the sake of obeying him, either out of love or out of fear, that, he will not be happy about me, in doing so…
Also, I’m opening up and sharing all these, because, right now, I’m going through a very hard time with a confusing relationship with a woman, whom I love so much, that I cant imagine any single day passing by without her or her thoughts…I can’t really say, its an abusive relationship, but, I can very much feel, it’s a manipulative relationship… More to come….
March 31, 2016 at 10:24 pm #100620JVRParticipantThank you Anita.. Please take your time…You all have been very helpful….I want to change the way, I see or perceive people as they are accept them as they are and not as what they want me to be….But, how is it possible to do this, without getting to know them better, in the process, I get hurt in the end.. since I gave in too much for them and go back only very little in return…which i feel decieved or disappointed sometime? Should I make boundaries with everyone at each person’s level? If so, how can I get to know them better and would it be not, that I’m trying to maintain a distance from them, because of my own over thinking or insecure feeling? What if, genuine people who would like to be with me at any circumstance, get hurts by my behaviour?
I don’t know.. as usual.. I’m not able to figure out on my own and I’m confused…
March 31, 2016 at 9:42 pm #100601JVRParticipantDuron,
Thank you so much for your reply and taking the time and efforts out to see my issues and helping me out.. so nice and kind of you…..Yes, It has been like that all along….My parents, always decide, what’s best for me, which is normal for any parents to do, when they want to see their only son to be happy and prosperous, even I have only one daughter, but I don’t do it with her.. I just let her be as herself, even in this age(she is just 7 years old).
I need more understanding and clarification on your last point.. which left me confusing(sorry about this).The truth is, if saying NO to someone changes how they react to you, then how genuine were they in the first place??? – How can genuine people do this? Believe me, I had people in my life whom, I was thinking to be genuine, since I might’ve failed to see who they really are… for what they really are… and they have taken me for a ride, when I said No to them, not by immediately punishing me, but punishing me in a very subtle, way, that I was not even able to make the difference out of it, through their behaviour with me after I said NO….
Thanks Duron, Thank you so much, your post has really helped me to think, I’m not the only one with the same issues and I have helping minds, souls and hearts which is ready to see me get through these tough times… Thank you so much…
March 31, 2016 at 9:34 pm #100599JVRParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and clarifications on what I’m going through all these 39 years.. I NEVER HAD THE COURAGE TO LIVE THE LIFE I WANTED FEARING REJECTION OR DISAPPROVAL OR NOT GETTING WHAT I WANT, BY SAYING NO. I was bought up as exactly as you said… If I say Yes, I will be getting what I wanted to have…either materialistic or mental health benefits from everyone in my life… as I see it.. and that’s the way, life has been….even with my daughter… My dad gives me everything, even today, only, if I say yes to whatever he wants me to do…If, I say no and do something out of my own gut feelings and if something goes wrong..he is always available to point out at me, ” I told you so” and to discourage me saying..” You should’ve done it my way”… “I came to this world first.. before you and I know it better than you”. This is the exact words, he would use…so, unknowingly or unconsciously, I became a person, who would always want someone to verify my own thoughts and actions and tell me or guide or approve me saying, I”m doing the right thing and it would not cause any harm as a consequence…
Again, I have so much going on in my life, that I’m almost on the brink of isolating myself from everyone and get into my own thoughts and living in solace, fearing not to lose anything which is mine and which I feel, I deserve, because of everything I have done to everyone on the positive side,(there are cases, where as a son, brother, friend, lover, husband, soulmate and father) I have done and given so much of myself to an extent of even mentally, and physically to many people in my life’s journey…. But at the end of the day, I don’t get what I deserve.. or is it only me feeling that I didn’t get what I deserved and the other person, whom I’m dealing with thinks, that, this is the best I can do to you for what, you have done to me…I’m really confused on how I should interact with people even on a day to day basis, so that I don’t isolate anyone…
I was reading from one of the posts in this forum by somebody and found out the definition of who I have been all along: PEOPLE PLEASER….. Yes, I would do anything.. Just anything to see others smile and be happy, even if it takes I have to let go of myself and not be as who I truly am and want to be(both on the positive and not so positive sides of me)….
I will be sharing more and more.. Hope, no one find’s it annoying to read such big posts…
Thank you so much Anita for being very kind hearted, passionate and very helpful and helping me with clear thoughts…
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