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Aballa,
The escape plan you refer to should be very easy for me. At least in theory. There have been countless plans over the years and 12 months ago I rented a house to go and live in. It was a detailed plan (one of many). It wasn’t until 3 months after the rental period started that I managed to move in there but I only stayed just a few weeks before going back. I have no idea why I went back and as soon as I did, I wanted to leave again but have not been able to do so. I spent the rest of this summer and early autumn trying to get back to the rented house but couldn’t bring myself to do it because of my emotional state, which has been truly horrible. I have been a mess. The rental period was for 12 months and I stayed there for less than 1 month. Needless to say it was a very expensive exercise but I had to try and would do it all over again as the expense involved has little meaning relative to the bigger picture. In practical terms, there is nothing holding me back as I have financial security and there are no children involved. The plans you suggest have all been put in place on multiple occasions but nothing ever works out for me because of the pain and suffering, which overcomes me whenever I try to implement the plans. I don’t know why this happens to me. I know it is irrational and out of all proportion and I know that it is all tied up with my wife’s abusive behaviour and manipulation, resulting in psychological control. It’s a very powerful, terror inducing, influence from which I can’t seem to escape or switch off. I can not cope with it and I cease to function as a rational person whenever I try to leave. Good luck with your new found freedom and you must stay away from the addictive behaviour that is a huge part of these toxic relationships that we have been subjected to. It poisons the spirit until there is nothing left but an empty person. Take the antidote – not the poison.
JohnParticipantAdam P,
Thanks for checking in. Things are improving in that my wife’s behaviour has improved a lot over the last several months. The horrible personality is much more under control but it doesn’t heal the damage that was done over a prolonged period. I’m still stuck trying to get out and torturing myself with such thoughts. They bring a smile to my face when they are just thoughts and dreams but trying to act on them sends me into a very dark and horrible mental state. Why I end up in such a state is beyond my understanding but it is definitely connected with going up against her and her arsenal of abusive behaviour and manipulative tactics. The honest reality is that I can”t stand the sight of her so why I am stuck is a mystery. Psychological control is an extremely powerful phenomenon once it has becomes firmly imprinted and it was the aggression that caused the imprinting to take place. I continue to educate myself and look for ways to repair the damage.
November 14, 2016 at 5:07 am in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #120344JohnParticipantJlo5, how are things working out for you? Well I hope….
JohnParticipantAballa,
Thanks for your response. The description of what happened to you seems all too familiar. The panic attacks, flashbacks, depression and severe anxiety. I started to experience these things very early on in my abusive relationship, which was over 35 years ago and I’m still in it today and still suffering. It doesn’t get any easier with time. I too have been brainwashed and mentally destroyed and recognise traumatic bonding and complex PTSD within me. It took me a long time to figure all this out and it is only relatively recently that I have researched anything and everything that I can find on the subject of emotional abuse and abusive personalities. What I have read seems to reflect very closely with what has happened to me and how damaged I am by it and how controlling it is. I suspect I am more susceptible to it than most people and have a very tolerant nature, which is why it has endured for so long and why it became such a big problem. I am now well educated on these things, which has helped me a great deal. Unfortunately, for me it seems to have turned into a very irrational phobia as I am afraid much of the time and walking on eggshells and always have been. I know it is totally irrational but it is also very real in terms of the psychological and physical effects that I suffer whenever I try to escape the control or fight against it. Logic seems to be completely irrelevant. You did the right thing in getting out of something that was very unhealthy and fortunately relatively short compared to what can happen if you get stuck through the traumatic bonding and the control that results. If you are interested to know more details you will find them on this website under the heading of “Emotionally Abused Man” which is a true story of what can happen if it goes on too long and goes badly wrong. It really does cause a big mess for all those involved and I know I am suffering greatly with “victim mentality”.
JohnParticipantAballa,
Sadly, I have not moved on but got stuck in a state of great psychological turmoil. I am tormented with never ending thoughts of getting out of the relationship but unfortunately, whatever I try does not seem to work out. It has become a prison for me. I know I am damaged by it and brainwashed by it all to the point of constant anxiety. The abuse is hardly present these days but I am still controlled by it from the damage done from years ago.
JohnParticipantAballa, I hope things have worked out well for you. Having read your story I have deep sympathy and understanding. I have been in an emotionally abusive relationship for decades and know exactly how such a relationship has a very traumatising effect on ones well being. Hopefully you have seen the light and moved on before it is too late as the damage is cumulative to the point you become stuck and unable to get out. Eventually it becomes a psychological prison from which there seems to be no escape even when nothing is physically preventing it. That is how it has worked out for me.
JohnParticipantAny ideas as to how I become unfrozen would be much appreciated.
JohnParticipantDear Anita,
With regards to your recent questions….. my friend is of a similar age to me. She is vivacious, very well educated, financially independent, attractive, friendly, well liked… the list of positives goes on and on and there is an intense physical attraction on my part that is age defying. This is all true and not just my version. My analysis of the way I treat her and her obvious plus points makes me wonder why she puts up with me and why she has not moved on. I feel unworthy in many ways so I wonder what it is she sees in me as I have let her down in so many ways. Occasionally I have asked her what she sees in me and she points out how well we get on and how good things are between us when the going is good. This is true as things can be very special but it is a time-limited, long distance relationship so time together will inevitably be special. There have been many times we have broken up because of my inability to get away and those break ups have been for extended periods. Sometimes years, but we have always kept in touch on a daily basis. There is something special that has gone on for a very long time. The break ups have been because she has seen that I have chosen to stay with my wife…. but we got back together many times in the hope that I could leave…. and I don’t seem to be able to. We have gone around this cycle together many times. It seems that we both want to be together. She has been very understanding. More so recently as I have started to open up with her about the damage that has been done to me. She is becoming even more understanding having read some of our communications here, which I have invited her to read. Until recently, my psychological problem has been completely hidden but now we are talking about it, which is a step in the right direction.JohnParticipantX04274108 – Thanks for your input. It seems that 7 months of input from your ex was enough to have a big impact on your well being. I’ve had 35 years of it with my wife. I have always been tolerant of other people’s shortcomings. Overly tolerant and I end up enduring pain as a result but it is much more than that, that troubles me.
JohnParticipantThanks to all your recent inputs. Anita, you make a good point about her being in my head. She’s there all the time working away at my self confidence with her anger issues having a bad influence on me. I would also say she is in my subconscious as well with her bad influence ever present. Adam, Good idea about the support group. Nan, I am very lucky with my friend who I let down all the time. She has the patience of a saint and has been waiting for me to get myself together for 25 years. I have no idea what she sees in me or why she does not move on. When we discuss that side of things she reminds me of how good we are together and how special things are between us. It certainly feels that way when we are together. Like you, I try to calm myself with thoughts of what will actually happen when my wife gets mad at me I and I think, so what! How hard can it be and I know nothing much bad will happen but my reaction is completely out of proportion to the perceived threat. It’s a phobic response in the same way that other people can be deeply troubled by harmless things that put them in a state of utter terror when there is no real danger. What next I wonder. My history tells me I will be trying to escape again but need to try something different as opposed to the things that don’t work. After calming down a little from the horrible self-torment of yesterday I can clearly see the absurdity of it all but I seem powerless to overcome it. As I said at the beginning, this feels to me like a very powerful spell that has been cast upon me and I know such things do not exist, but if they did, I imagine that what I experience is exactly what it would feel like. Not sure that makes any sense but it really does feel very strange as if an external force is acting upon me that is emanating from my wife. I can fully understand why some people might believe in such nonsense.
JohnParticipantDear All,
Another day of emotional meltdown whilst trying to get away. Didn’t get on the plane today. Made it as far as the airport then froze. Whatever goes on inside me makes me both physically and mentally very unwell to the point I cannot operate as a normal and rational person. I feel very unwell with the complex PTSD symptoms and the only relief comes from not carrying out what needs to be done but the relief is very temporary until the overwhelming urge to leave rebuilds within me which is starting already. I am now torturing myself with ideas of buying another ticket and catching the flight tomorrow and I know that is what I will do and I know the outcome will probably be exactly the same. This is very irrational behaviour but I know if I don’t try then I can’t possibly succeed so I keep on trying over and over and over again and again. Very bizarre.
JohnParticipantDear jlo5, What news of your dilemma? It’s been quite a while since you posted anything. Hopefully you have moved on and are in a better place and if so, please can you share how you got there but understandable if you wish to remain quiet on the subject. Regards JJC (formerly Brokenman)
JohnParticipantAdam P,
Thanks for asking. Today I am OK and have been feeling better these last few weeks. Still don’t feel great but better. I am trying to resolve my bad situation in the coming days but whether I will or not is a very different matter. I have tried many times and my track-record is not very good due to the brainwashing or perhaps just weakness on my part. Either way, historically the outcome has been the same but as I am feeling a little better these days, I am hoping for a different outcome. With my lady friend, we have arranged to go on a weeks holiday to Vienna to make the break from my wife. It remains to be seen if I actually get on the ‘plane or go into emotional melt-down and fail yet again. Both options are distinctly possible.
JohnParticipantDear Mountaindew – I am impressed by your self analysis and you seem to have great insight into your behaviour. It’s as if you are now an observer from the outside looking back at the behaviour of a different person. I am sure this will help you in your healing and self-development. Please could you help me with my understanding. When you were behaving badly (anger, control and other negativity) what was driving this in you? What were you trying to achieve? Why didn’t you want your friend to have the freedom to be himself? Presumably, what drives this is the cause of your relationship problems.
JohnParticipantMountaindew – From what you describe of yourself, you remind me very much of my wife’s behaviour from 35 years ago during the early part of our relationship. I have posted on this website under the title of “Emotionally Abused Man”. I would encourage you to read the first input of mine so you can perhaps gain some insight into what can happen over the longer term, when there is great imbalance in the relationship. That said, different people are involved so the outcome is going to be different, especially now you have started to look deep inside yourself as to how you have handled and influenced your relationship.
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