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Hi Teak,
I finally told him that its the end and he accepted it. I did this exercise multiple times but went back to him and he would be as normal as before without a single question. Ending it finally. Its hurting , few tears too .. hope i will cope it well in the coming weeks 🙁
Yes, there was lot of hot n cold treatment …. its not like i didn’t notice.. pattern is same right from the first weekend we met ..but sadly i am in a state where i suck for even little attention/love given by anybody. And in the mid of my own traumatic feelings.. i always feel i am wrong and again patch up with him.. its like he might be not available for some days but still he is there when i don’t have anyone else 🙁 i spent sleepless nights thinking i can manage this well like the way he does ..but again to scratch .
yeah, i sought a deeper bond with him, tried bringing up that topic multiple times. But he gets really uncomfortable around such topics, cannot even meet my eyes if it is a video call. He either diverts the topic or ends the call. But at the same time, did not reject me directly, would keep saying let’s see, we will be together kind of words. Its me who kept an end to such topics but i did say i deserve truth as a human ; it does not matter its romantic relationship or not. I feel like a stupid to believe such random words and hurt my heart multiple times. But then again i did see real love/admiration in his eyes in the initial months and later on repented multiple times assuming may be i asked for a relationship too soon and he backed out. This i say because i pushed him away multiple times but he still held on to me . He literally worshiped me even past the honeymoon stage of a meeting. Its only possible if he either a psychopath with no emotions or have feelings for me .. other than that why does anyone bears others frustrations in this world. i am shameful to accept that i was quiet abusive few times with him. And he has one strong reason against relationship .. its a long distance one, he will not relocate to home country until his retirement age ..which is probably 25 years from now, he does not want to marry me .. so what’s the use of having a long distance relationship. he also mentioned once trying to have a commitment in a long distance relationship is utterly nonsense. i too agreed with that …. he has his needs and cant wait for 4 months to have it with me .. more over when we know this is how it is going to be until we get old. So there is not even scope for a committed relationship. And he is a decent person, not kind of asking nudes/sexting or anything which i am not comfortable with. His logic is simple, says we will be good to each other virtually and at the same time have a real life with real people. Sadly , I am not capable of doing exactly what he does.
Any self respecting and self loving person might have gotten out of this long long back .. but it is me here. Right now i am concerned more about my attitude more than anything else. Scared all my relationships might end this way ..me chasing unavailable/shady people thinking this is what makes me happy. I did meet 2 guys in recent times , both of them want relationship but i am scared and blocked them. Strangely i seek a relationship always and when someone who wants it , enters my life, i hide/run away from that person.
Teak, no i did not see any hot cold treatment in my childhood years. Parents gave me the best of everything. But the negative aspect it .. i am emotional even when i was a small girl, tears would swell up even for little things and my mom would comment ‘she always cries for even small things’. Mom never tried to find out the reason. And also i faced couple of sexual harassment as a young girl. So i am extremely closed in some matters. That guy never ever forced me or made me uncomfortable, not even a single instance . if i say no, he would say okay , that’s it. i felt more safe with him than my own father. My parents shifted to my place after i lost my husband, my father gazes at my body very openly even when he understands its making me uncomfortable, also made 1 or 2 stupid comments. And i don’t understand mom cant notice it or simply pretends not to notice it. I had moved out of this phase with much difficulty , he is much better now but any given day , i prefer that shady guy to be safer than my father. Some of my mental issues developed because of this as well as i was in a situation where i was helpless. You can fight male friends/colleagues/strangers for wrong behavior but its difficult to fight own family members. Now i, my kid stay together and parents in different city. My parents fight a lot, it was same since my childhood. A lot means a lot .. very toxic. their only way of communication is arguing/shouting at each other. They don’t understand each other. I feel i am exactly like my mom, can never understand any man/get emotional intimacy. My father has same kind of behavior when i stayed with them for couple of months after child birth. It was a very disturbing environment for me with their constant fights and this behavior. Luckily i came back to my husband in few months and unfortunately back to them after he passed away.
Guess this explains a bit why i am in such shitty ship .. because it felt 100 times better/secure in some ways.
JisooParticipantThanks for the clarification. You are point on, that is what I lack.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, thanks for the inputs. Yeah, me too considering therapy to resolve my issues. Why was the intimacy part highlighted? Can you please explain. We are no longer romantically close, only close friend. It was in the past, I am seeing some one new.
JisooParticipantHi Anita & Teak,
I am still in a fix on what to do, not able to end it completely with him. its not because i am in love or such feelings ..but to be honest i am selfish from my end. vented and dumped my emotional frustrations on him all the time [these are my personal things and not related to him] He would listen , advise appropriately and try to change my mood. So .. if u can read between the lines , i am as self centered as him and used him. This brings the response to your questions about my anxious/detachment mentality and as well the pain in my heart.
lost my husband suddenly few years ago, right in front of my eyes. I did move on by changing house, changing work place, got busy with managing my finances and other issues.. all along trying to give my kid a happy childhood. He was only 3.5 years old at that time. Everyone around me appreciate me for being a strong woman but my inside is not yet healed. I did nothing to give myself a break to process my thoughts or feelings. Developed anxious and insecure attachment now .. not just with a romantic connection, its the same in general too. For ex, you and me travel together for some 8 hours in a bus and u are very good to me. You promise to keep in touch after getting down but could not do that for your own reasons. I will panic, feel bad , not eat food, cry etc. So this is how basically my friendship with that person started. And i realized this with other people too ..like when a colleague moves to another company, i would really feel bad/miss her even though over association was very very small. I have very low self esteem and self worth, don’t know what to do about it. I follow tedx talks, motivational videos and self help books .. trying to implement whatever i can ..but the change lasts for only few weeks and i am back to normal.
At the same time, there’s a detachment . i witnessed my life collapsing in a matter of seconds and now not really invested in any relationship completely. i am scared it may end suddenly , same thoughts w.r.t my family members too. As per my self introspection, i believe this is all result of not mourning much for my loss, did not have much time for anything , i had to really move on quickly for the sake of my son. In these all years i took more leaves for emotional sickness than physical sickness. My parents, siblings, cousins, wonderful friends and colleagues were all part of my journey and supported a lot. But this inside healing is a lone process . I am okay now for most part of the year but developed some different aspects which were not part of my personality before the loss.
This guy might be a very bad man, selfish , manipulative or whatever but i am the one who is letting him access to me, owing to my own issues. Both of us know it very well. But on surface level he keeps saying that i am the Queen and doing good to him by keeping in touch. Teak, he never showed signs of withdrawing. Its only me who is there/not there, talk good one day/cry one day, put boundaries/remove them ..lot of such stuff. I believe he is only representing what i am inside .. unavailable/untrustworthy.. Read somewhere that we attract the same kind of people until we heal ourselves/change our thought. i am insecure around relationships , so may be attracted a guy who is feeding me self worth. I am in a well paying stable job, manage home and kid all by myself, i exercise, keep myself well groomed, friendly with lot of ladies in my society and office, into spirituality, little hobbies etc.
Please share your thoughts .
JisooParticipantHi Teak and Anita, yeah trust is most important for any friendship or relationship. There’s either trust or no trust.. but see sawing between these…bought me much emotional drain. He did put lot of effort to gain my trust in later months but somehow I could never forget that name thing. We would chat whole day, talk for 1 hour , vc sometimes. Now it’s only few msgs and we totally ignore each other some days.. but somehow when we talk ..its like going back to home. Regarding his brother, no, he never shares his pain with me. However he does share about his mom who passed away few years ago. He only shared happy memories of his mom and bro. And why he could not open up with me ..I have no idea. From my end I have a detachment and emotionally unavailable mentality …. its a different topic altogether. Anita, we got close after I developed feelings and not the other way round. And I am not clingy or nothing extra feelings have come to me just because of intimacy. I may have not provided complete information, sorry for that. No, he don’t have to manage any image here. He never talked of marriage or a relationship with me ..so there were never false promises or cheating. The main reason for my fights were always the same. He would text non stop , call multiple times, share pics whole of the week and it suddenly reduces on the weekend. One or 2 msgs , calls very rarely. So this type of hot cold treatment drove me nuts and my mental state was bad…resulting in either crying or shouting. He works as a business head of a MNC and travels international multiple times , but would keep in touch with me every single day. And Regarding my mood swings , they were mostly because of my loss and some other stuff going in my life. He is always supportive that way. All in all, I know he is not good to my emotional health and slowly detached myself..but not able to cut it down entirely. And I don’t trust him. Only God can understand his intentions:) I did ask him multiple times why he wants to gift me, why he wants to be in touch etc…he says we can’t do everything with expectations. Few things happen this way too. I have own issues and need healing of the heart.
JisooParticipantHi Teak,
Thanks for putting out the apt summary for my issue. Well, it could be any of the reasons you pointed out, he clearly knows what game he is playing and very well understood my concerns on how it effected my mental state. I backed out of romantic association citing the very same reason. i know his friends, colleagues and his family/home here. He is not married for sure, i wouldn’t even consider talking to him if he was. Like you said, yeah his personal life is still a mystery to me because he behaves same when he is in our home town too. He shares his work, investments, client details etc, taken me to visit his new home in his last visit. We met several times in public places and he doesn’t have any issue meeting anywhere [kind of not hiding]
Like you said his intentions were not as sincere as mine. I am not much into dating scenario and its really hard to read new people. This person has just lost his own brother and in the initial stages of our meeting,i feared asking any personal topics. Coming to caring, guidance and being supportive to me , he is same as my other close girl friends. I have a good friend circle who have been my constant support after the tragedy in my life. The only difference being i may have tried to fill the void created by my partner with this person.
yes he ticks all the green flags of a normal healthy relationship/meets all love languages [if u consider only 1 view i.e everything on his terms] he did want to meet my parents too ..all as a friend, nothing more. So may be he is not a scam but may be i give him an ego boost, may be ..that is why he wants to keep me in touch.
Thank you very much for putting out a different dimension to this story. I am yet to learn about people who play mind games/manipulative. We rarely talk these days and i want to cut it down completely. So looked for help in this website 🙂 in case i am loosing a good friend. My offline friends are as confused as me with this unpredictable behavior.
Thanks much Anita and Teak 🙂
JisooParticipantHi Anita, thanks for the quick response. Yeah I ll rest my case. As is ,I am no longer interested in him romantically , started seeing someone who stays close to me..but I got curious in a psychological way as I have never known someone in that way. Only came across guys who wants to get intimate whatever be the name was..casual or serious. This behavior is new to me and truly trying to understand people. Ladies, does anyone of you have a different view point ?
JisooParticipantHi Anita, we got intimate in March and his last visit was in July, when we met twice in cafes. There was no hook up though he stayed in my home town for a month. Somehow I am not able to decipher this person’s motivation.
JisooParticipantImportant point to add …we did get intimate once but not because of his compulsion. Both of us wanted it. So it’s not like he is waiting for it, to happen someday.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, I am highly confused. If its only for a hook up, I would have known a long time ago.. basically because most guys tag women along only for sex though not interested. But this person has never been indecent or crossed limits though we were very close emotionally at some point. He did try to talk intimate but stepped back when I was unresponsive. And we are always long distance, what use of bearing these fights for a hookup once in 5 months, when he visits . I don’t understand him. He is calm when I shout, calm when I rejected his advances, calm always and willing to be in touch no matter what. I don’t know if I am the dumb idiot for feeling that he does put effort to continue this. Quiet unpredictable. In this materialistic world,I don’t understand why would someone be therr for a person expecting nothing in return. I don’t understand his motivation. It might take some time for me to move on or not hope for love. But its not a regular thing to find some one who cares for us without expecting anything… except for parents. That’s my dilemma.
JisooParticipantHe did show lot of romantic love and passion in the start, so I started developing such feelings slowly. Gave me lot of mixed signals when I asked if he is interested in a relationship. Somehow I feel guilty that it’s my constant nagging about his flatmate, his personal details etc drove him away from a romantic relationship from me. I have severe anxious attachment style , it became worse. It’s been a year since we met and as a friend , he is always very good in guiding me in financial, professional and personal matters.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, Thanks for the response. The reason he gives for being unavailable is that he rests at home, meets friends, doesn’t wanna spend time on phone. He mentioned staying with a collegue there but I assume it’s a female, he is living with. Never ever shares a single information about that person. He visited my home last month but he showed his home on video call after a lot of pressure from me. There might be many things which I am not aware of him but all the times I confronted him, he would say I am good with u. Why do u bother about other stuff
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