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Hi Teak,
I am going to take some time off from thoughts [of past] and get busy with my work and other stuff. Not overly disturbed but kind of ..don’t wanna venture into it right now .
Will get back to it later on .
JisooParticipantHi Teak,
Thanks for the reference. Going back to unhappy memories is disturbing. i unconsciously poured in lot of stuff over here. Will try to follow your suggestions.
JisooParticipantHi Teak,
Yeah finally all the pieces of the puzzle seem to fit. He sent few texts on Saturday, today asking for a call, told him i am free only on the weekends. I did not send him the link nor planning anytime, its useless. Smart enough to understand it but would come up with his usual mask. One more thing i forgot to add : He doesn’t follow this contact timings when he is in my home city or when he is traveling .. he ll try to be in constant touch .. pics from airport, flight, hotel room, restaurant, shares location too .. so now i come back to my original suspicion ..he might be living with someone and trying to protect her feelings. Behaves like he works in army, leaves office at the same time everyday ..not even few mins late. If i keep him talking , he will stay back to talk and goes home ..but never extends that. There are numerous times he would say i miss u while leaving to home . I could never understand why cant he talk from home if he is missing, who is stopping him. Both of us are adults and not committed to anyone else. I am relieved to finally gain some strength to put my boundaries in place and continue to do so. Thank you very much.
Teak, regarding soothing my inner child, i am definitely going to try it, doesn’t seem easy though. Right now i am still clueless how and where to start from, reading about it.
Thanks a ton for putting a perceptive to my confusions. There’s much to be done from my end.
JisooParticipantHi Teak, I found an interesting read about hold n cold treatment displayed by a narcissistic . https://addictedtoloveanddrama.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/narcissistic-behavior-4-blowing-hot-and-cold/ this woman’s story is different but the rest of it is exactly what happened to me. Thanks much for throwing light on this , i get it now. This seems really cool 🙂 no second thoughts on getting rid of him. I have a strong urge to post this link to him and see his reaction…. devilish satisfaction. Checked out other signs of a narcissistic person, looks like he is expert in only this department.
JisooParticipantHi Teak, it might be the reasons. Emotional neglect during childhood …. one incident I specifically remember..mom mocking my running style infront of her sisters and brothers. She never talked about my grades in academics, essay, debates , singing, dancing etc which I was good at. I was never good in sports. In fact I got reminded most of my childhood stuff during recent years because I don’t want my kid to go through the same stuff i went through. I protect my kid’s emotions. yeah, I did feel abandoned after husband’s death. Any suggestions on what can be done now to improve my self esteem around relationships ?
JisooParticipantHi Teak,
Mom dismissing my tears when I was a kid .. does it come under feeling of unworthy? I am not sure …. I was really good student , popular in school and neighborhood. There was always the pressure to get 1st rank as my parents were very strict w.r.t to studies. I was always a 1st ranker but parents never appreciated it much. But when I loose even few marks, I would get scolded and beaten. This happened very rare but I did think about this after I grew up. As for romantic relationship, I and husband had fights like regular couple but I don’t remember experiencing unworthy feelings. We lead a stressful life , was grateful to have each other’s back.
JisooParticipantOne thing which I noticed is whenever I ask his details, he ll change the topic to me or completely diverts to something else. I started doing this to him in recent times, he cut shorts the conversation. And once when I asked why he is not available, he asked me if I want a gift. That made me more angry. Only last month, for the very first time I heard this from him ” I know what I do and why it hurts u. That’s the reason I bear your anger in return ” this was in response to when I suggested taking responsibility for his actions instead of diverting the topic.
JisooParticipantHi Teak, your description of him is hilarious 😆 haa ..it might be a mask . Who can behave like a robot every single day without emotions. I always wondered why is he single still .. he matches all society standards and seems to be a good catch.. well settled, good looking, polite, decent and extremely charming personality. As far I remember our earlier conversations, most women before me ..tagged along with him until they understood he is not ready to commit or marry and few of them kept in touch with him even after their marriage. It only means he has kept his mask all through.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, I am explaining 2 different perspectives of me..one before the tragedy and one later. So it might have confused you. Looks like I am taking lot of space in the forum and your time as well, but to make it clear – As a kid we move to another room if parents fight , we dont analyze their marriage or even think about it much. But as an adult and also in a low phase in one’s life, these things effect a lot. Hope u understand the difference. And w.r.t to my husband, he never ghosted/disappeared/mentally abused me. If we had issues , we argued/discussed and compromised to some level. I never got scared that he might leave me or my relationship will end. I was always secure. But now in my current state, I get extremely clingy when the new guy disappears, think I am wrong or unworthy of love ..whatever it is. I don’t feel secure. Hope this is clear now.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, I meant they could not understand the importance of a spouse. When we see someone crying over a loss, shouldn’t we be grateful for what we have, make some compromise and make things happy with whatever is available. And also, mom has 0 social life, doesn’t share her issues with her sisters or some one her age. She keeps complaining to me .. your dad is thst, this, did like this, like that .. issues dating to as old as 20/30 years ago. It was really toxic for me as I am facing my own struggles and I am not someone older than her to advise what to be done. One parent abusing another parent in front of the kid is toxic at any age.
JisooParticipantHi Anita, you are confusing me 🙂 I and my siblings were disturbed as kids when they fought but it didn’t effect us much. I don’t know what kind of attachment it is. Only after I started staying together with parents after my loss.. that I started analyzing why they fight and it also effected me a lot ..since I couldn’t understand why they can’t appreciate the presence of a spouse when their own kid is mouring her spouse right in front of them. Regarding my marriage, yes it was a secure love marriage, my husband was my super hero. It was not the perfect marriage .
JisooParticipantHi Anita, my behavior changed after I developed wrong style of attachment. My marriage was not 100 percent roses, we had some arguments and both of us equally put effort to make it work. I was never insecure in my marriage though. We were super attached and he vanished off from the face of earth just like that .. my reference to my parents is to answer Teak’s question regarding my childhood. I believe every marriage is different and depends on those 2 specific people’s perspective and understanding. It’s not hereditary. I and my siblings understand it very well, growing up seeing our parents. After my recent traits with men, now I understand why my mom behaves the way she behaves. And it’s not mirroring any way ..its not like hey don’t do that because u ll look like that person. It’s like telling a kid ..hey don’t smoke or else u ll die like your parent or grandparent. As per my understanding I have to find what triggers me and have to fix it. My parents have their own issues but I guess that doesn’t have anything to do with their parents marriages.
JisooParticipantHi Teak, agreed that I did nag him a lot but that started after his disappearing acts and more over its after 2 months after our first meeting. I did notice his pattern of vanishing but never confronted in the initial months. He was available from 11 am to 9 pm my time. He lives 3 hours behind my time zone. So he leaves office at 6 pm his time and switches off the phone. I can never reach him on my own. He is the one who initiates and ends our contact timings. At the same time, he was very demanding of my time when he is available.. calling multiple times if I don’t pick up.. constantly texting. It was nice to me initially but slowly my work time, cooking time, kid time ..everything got replaced by him. My me time is completely gone. Then I started putting boundaries and as well started demanding his private time. Questions on who he lives with, why can’t he remember me after going home etc. He never replied properly nor his contact timings changed. Then my nagging started. I did share lot of my personal frustrations too but for that he would response positively, calm me and make me happy. I could have walked away but I have my own selfish reasons.. apart from that .. he usually does what I ask for, after repeated fights or if I stop talking. Most of the time he made me feel that he is putting effort to not loose me. But I don’t have energy to fight, so let things take their course
JisooParticipantHi Teak, I may have given you wrong impression, the issue with father behavior started in recent years, not in my childhood. Bad gaze was the problem, nothing else. Regarding that guy, he likes me , not love me enough to become step dad to my kid. He is never married, so it might be a huge thing to him, might not sync with his goals and dreams. As you mentioned, it also might have to do with my behavior. I am too much to bear ,my insecure and controlling attitude because of anxiety. He was in a 8 year long relationship from college and had to let go of thar girl as he wasn’t settled back then. His last relationship ended in 2019 , the girl left him because he couldn’t prioritize her over his work. We met in 2020. He behaves more human now compared to previous months. He was like a robot. If I say yes, yes..no,no. We had a big fight in April I.e me asking about his secrets. He never said a word back or argued. For whole 1 week , he sent sad selfies of himself. That is the only emotion he displayed so far. We did talk about my late husband but he was very brief about his exes. Never really opened up to me. Always puts up a happy, jovial mood. As per my perspective, he doesn’t care much for any woman to stay in his life forever, easily let them go. I believe he has some friends with benefits in the place he lives and I am sure each of those might be rooting for marriage with him. Those women might be in dark too about what he does when he travels here. If a guy is casual, we can understand. But if someone behaves very caring, affectionate, very much into u, remembers every single detail of what we shared and follows up with utmost sincerity, most women wait with hopes. And coming to his mom, I may have given wrong information. She passed away years ago , a lovely, feminine and motherly woman as per his description. Pampered him a lot. No idea if she was a controlling type. What is that u mentioned about my needs and he disappearing ? I did not understand.
JisooParticipantHi Teak, thanks for reading such huge paragraphs and replying 😊 that topic is extremely difficult and I did share it with only one friend in my life . My friend suggested I live separately from them, which I am doing. I never spoke directly with mom regarding this, but she knows I hate him. They have helped me a lot after my tragedy, provided support in bringing up the kid. So I did bear it struggling inside myself, wearing hopelessly loose clothes . Now he changed, no old behavior as of now. May be because of age. Regarding that guy, his dialogue is same. He will meet me whenever he visits home city until either of us die. I can date other ppl and can walk away from him if I find myself a good relationship. He will always be there in case I wish to go back to him. Planning to talk to a therapist in the following week and work on my issues. Hopefully I ll write a new post some time later with a fresh perspective and happy mind.
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