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  • in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #414201
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    Hello ladies.
    happy 2023.
    things moving along here and we are getting settled in to our new home. My daughters are ages 12 and 13 and theyā€™ve been amazing.
    Iā€™m taking this slowly, observing them, their emotions, etc and myself as well.
    One of my top priorities is not to rush into anything and to give us all time to just settle, reflect and enjoy our new home and environment.
    im so incredibly relieved that he is out of my life and so thankful that I didnā€™t stay longer and that my children are ok. I feel terrible for his biological children as they by default have to struggle with him for a lifetime.
    They already kept him at arms length and donā€™t trust him but struggle with what they realize now are the realities of his lies and manipulations.
    Iā€™m reading a book titled ā€œmalignant self loveā€ and itā€™s helped me tremendously. Itā€™s considered one of the best books written on NPD and itā€™s helped me process and understand whatā€™s happened and armed me with the knowledge so that I can recognize these abusers in the future!
    so we are taking it one day at a time and just enjoying the simple pleasures – making dinner, decorating our home, spending quality time together.
    Many blessings!

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #413607
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    Hi there. Sorry for the delayed reply! Iā€™m doing just fine. Iā€™ve been moving and officially in the new home as of the 3rd. My mom came in to help me a week ago and itā€™s been nonstop getting the new home in order. Each step is a step towards peace! Iā€™m definitely tired but itā€™s a good tired and Iā€™m realizing more every day just how emotionally drained I have been. As my daughters and I get into a routine, we are all realizing just how much more freedom we have to do things. He monopolized almost every aspect of my life, down to when I showered at night.
    Iā€™ve been educating myself most days as well on recovering from being in a relationship with a NPD spouse. I can tell that I have suffered trauma emotionally and will take time to acknowledge this and let that heal.
    right now we are just focused on getting our home in order and I truly look forward to finding myself again and being whole for my daughters.
    Iā€™m going to give it a few months, but I suspect I might need to see a therapist for a few months to sort through my experience.
    I am so grateful for your concern.

    Many many blessings.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #413068
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    Yes thanks to you both!!

    yesterday was the last day he was in this house. He officially moved into his new place and my big move is tomorrow. I feel so at peace. Yes Iā€™m sad, but not because heā€™s out of my life. I of course have scars from the abuse but Iā€™m embracing it and coping and know I will heal.
    regarding my daughters – yes good question. Because he is highly manipulative, he knew just how far he could take his insults, abuse, etc and knew he couldnā€™t go there with them like he did me. However, as time went by, his abuse def starting to creep in to them too and more so recently. Not in direct ways, but in ways that were confusing to them and manipulative. Thatā€™s when I was truly motivated to end it. Motherly instinct kicked in for sure.
    youā€™re right – he had many chances to look within – 4 years ago during my counseling, then in our marriage counseling together, then in individual counseling, then I also wrote him a very thoughtful long letter outlining my issues and asking he look within too. Like all the other chances, he projected it back onto me and never addressed anything.
    he lives a sad existence.
    Iā€™ll keep you posted but it was a beautiful thing to wake up this morning not walking on eggshells!!!

    much love to you!!!

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #412841
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    Hi Iā€™m just checking in letting you know itā€™s going well. Iā€™ve been moving things into my new home daily. The official move in date is Jan 3rd. Heā€™s also moving his things out and has a place and will be there jan 1st. So I donā€™t have much longer.
    he has no access to my accounts, etc and is not involved in my move. Heā€™s still love bombing anc going into bouts of crying saying he doesnā€™t understand every so often. Itā€™s extremely sad and disturbing at the same time to watch this level of mental illness. I had no idea just how severe it was until I became aware of his disorder.
    I will be free of it soon and so will my daughters. Luckily they were not affected negatively by him and they are not here while the move is going on. Theyā€™re also excited about the move.
    thank you again for your guidance and Iā€™ll check in soon!

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #412644
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    Dear Anita And Tee

    i logged on to update you and saw that you blessed me with more guidance unsolicited. Iā€™m so truly grateful for this. Youā€™ve been instrumental at keeping my momentum going. Iā€™m doing great. Yesterday was my big day as my precious daughters left for grandma / grandpa with their dad after we spent Christmas morning together. I was now free to start moving things out and I started right away!!
    I told my daughters about the break up last week. They handles it very well and are excite about our new life and home together. I took them to our new home so they could visualize and so theyā€™re reassured that nothing major like their schools and schedule between me and their dad has changed. We have a flock of 15 wonderful chickens and we bought a new coop and I assured them theyā€™d be moving with us and weā€™d make a new home for them too!

    I can tell you that yesterday was the happiest Iā€™ve felt in a few years. I was packing my things and loading my car taking things to the new house. My soon to be x attempted to usurp my car in a very manipulative way so that he could use it to move his things (mine is an SUV type) but I quickly retrieved my keys.
    yes heā€™s still using the same tactics – manipulation, guilting me, projection, love bombing, etc But Im not affected by them

    Iā€™ve distanced myself from him and just focused on moving forward. Heā€™s got no access to my finances either. My big furniture move is Jan 3rd but heā€™s already moving things out and heā€™s moving his big things later in the week

    when Iā€™m around him I feel like Iā€™m being poisoned. When Iā€™m not Iā€™m at peace. Iā€™m spending as much time as I can away from this house and Iā€™ll be free soon!!

    I will check in soon but please do send me any videos , advice you might happen to find on narcissists. Iā€™ve realized fully now that heā€™s been an abuser all this time and I know Iā€™ll have to heal from that. Believe it or not his x wife reached out to me through this. We were already pretty well acquainted over the years since she had kids with my soon to be x husband. She left him too and it turns out all the stories and narratives heā€™s spun on her are completely false. I was suspect as I watched his behavior unfold over the years and now so many inconsistencies make sense. He bankrupted her as well, abused her emotionally, cheated and she was in counseling for years after to recover from his abuse. Sheā€™s thrived since she left him and pretty much raised their two kids (my stepchildren) on her own. He hasnā€™t paid a dime in child support since they divorced. All his lies are coming to the surface and itā€™s confirming what the sages says thousands of years ago – the truth always finds itā€™s way to the surface. It may take years, days, months, but it will.
    thank you and blessings to you!!!!

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #412176
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    yes it does and thatā€™s what my instinct is telling me too. He bites into every bit of data he can and only uses it for his gain so either way he wonā€™t accept it well.
    thank you again for helping navigate this.
    many blessings to you.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #412174
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    Thank you!

    so itā€™s getting down to the wire and I wanted to just ask for some advice re logistics.
    As you know, Iā€™ve been keeping things neutral around the house for the sake of my two daughters, ages 12 (just turned 12!) and 13. IRS Christmas as you know and my plan has been to wait until right after Christmas to tell them anc to start moving out.
    theyā€™re leaving for their grandparents house late Christmas morning after we spend Christmas t morning together. I sat down with my husband Friday night to make it clear that I was going ti start moving my things out Christmas afternoon and spend the week in between moving things. And that the big movers were coming Jan 3rd.
    he did not handle this news well even though Iā€™ve been telling him for over a month what my plans were. He then started trying to sell me on he would help me move my things , that we should do it ā€œtogetherā€ and that he was under the impression we would share a mover for the big things.
    thus is Not at all what Iā€™m planning as I plan to do this separate from him. I want ti make this clear to him but at the same time it risks him turning very nasty right around Christmas.
    I was planning on just telling him on the day of that Iā€™m doing this separately

    Iā€™ve been reading on narcissists and it says that thereā€™s no good way to give them news they donā€™t want to hear

    Iā€™ve been clear with him for over a month now and even tried to bring up logistics of the move and heā€™s only buried his head in sand trying ti love bomb me. So I donā€™t feel I need to babysit this at this point plus Iā€™ve come this far keeping the peace for the holidays w the kids.
    Wheb he suggested he help me move I did not agree but I didnā€™t fight it either. He was starting to get hostile so I just backed away.
    Bottim line is Iā€™m not sure if I need to bring this detail up again with him before the actual day or leave it be. Thank you !

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #412076
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    Yes thank you. Iā€™ve actually been returning to the thread almost daily and itā€™s been immensely helpful. It does keep me grounded and directed forward. Iā€™m counting the days and now that Iā€™m 100% clear on who he really is, Iā€™m much better able to handle him. He fits the NPD to a T and itā€™s all so transparent now.
    thsnk you and Iā€™ll post again soon!

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #411911
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    And the Jan 3rd move is for the large furniture. I still plan to start moving my belongings Christmas.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #411910
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    Thanks to you both!! Such wonderful wisdom and I feel blessed as youā€™re pushing me along to the other side. Today was a good day. I confirmed an actual earlier move in date to Jan 3rd with landlord and movers and am putting all the logistics in motion.
    I also was able to get further confirmation today on even more lies and that he has in fact been unofficially labeled as suffering from narcissistic personality disorder. This is what Iā€™ve been suspecting for a year or so now.
    I understand this disorder and have given him over two years to address his issues and look inward. Nothing has come of it other than exhausting me, bringing me down, him spending every penny I earn, and losing myself.
    Iā€™m so excited to move forward.
    thank you all again for your compassion.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #411870
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    Hello All.
    Iā€™m just checking in as itā€™s therapeutic to just type things out during this journey. I will be packing my things the day after Christmas.
    my daughters will be at their grandparents with their Dad for a couple of days so I can start taking things to the new home then I plan to tell them when they return. That way their Christmas isnā€™t ruined! My x husband and I (the father of my children) are on friendly greens so we have been able to communicate and make a plan.
    in the meantime, my current husband (that Iā€™m divorcing) is still largely in denial and trying to woo his way out of this. He is making a plan to move out but heā€™s still trying to hold a narrative that we are just separating when Iā€™ve made it clear thars not the case. Because the kids are still in the home and they donā€™t know whatā€™s going on, Iā€™m making a point to not ruffle feathers so it makes it mentally stressful.
    Iā€™m handling it but his reaction to this is a testament to the problems he has.
    On another note, the main reason Iā€™m writing is that I had a breakthrough yesterday and was able to confirm something Iā€™ve suspected all along. As I told you, I had an affair at the end of my first marriage that I deeply regret – and my current husband has spent the last two years making me feel like a horrible person for something I did when he wasnā€™t around. As you may recall, he to carried on an affair in his first Marriage and this whole time has claimed that it was an ā€œopen affairā€ and that everyone knew about it, including his first wife. He went so far to tell me that his first wife was ā€œfineā€ with it and knew it was going on and that it was justified because he was lonely in the marriage and his first wife had ā€œchecked outā€. Iā€™ve never been comfortable with this narrative and knew in my gut this was a lie. Over the past two years, Iā€™ve given him multiple opportunities to be honest about this and heā€™s only gotten defensive maintaining the story. Iā€™ve told him that I donā€™t judge him for having the affair, that my problem has always been that youā€™ve denied any moral responsibility for it and continue to do so in light of abusing me mentally over mine.
    I confirmed yesterday that in fact his first wife did not approve of it and that she caught word of it when they were married and was NOT ok with it.
    so in my opinion this is a HuGE lie / deception on his part. Itā€™s so incredibly abusive In my opinion to carry on this narrative with me for years all the while beating me up – and denying it multiple times when I lovingly gave him chances to face it and be honest.
    Im moving forward of course but these are just things I needed to know personally so Iā€™m glad I found out.
    Iā€™d love feedback on this as to me this is a huge deception.
    I donā€™t plan on bringing this up with him right now as itā€™s the holidays and Iā€™ve got to focus on the kids. But when Iā€™m moved out I plan to tell him at the right time.
    thanks to you all.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #411785
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    Thanks to you all. Yes Iā€™m sticking to plan and his tactics become more clear every day.
    i have two daughters ages 11 and 12 so Iā€™m juggling not exposing them to any negative vibes during this process. And itā€™s also the holiday season so Iā€™m preserving the peace so as not to ruin that for them. I plan to tell them right after Christmas and Iā€™m going to start moving my things out the day after Christmas as well.
    I think every day and put myself in his shoes – and I know if I saw who I claimed to be the love of my life slipping away, Iā€™d be digging deep with them and addressing real issues. Heā€™s yet to do this and continues to try to woo me with words and affectations. I do keep a distance though and donā€™t play onto it.
    heā€™s got a history of manipulating others close to him financially and those closest to him have even told me about it. Even his son said heā€™s made a habit off living off of others since his wife left. His mom warned me of the same.
    he has no access to my bank accounts which is good.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #411561
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    Hello All.
    I wanted to check in and give you an update since I last posted. Thank you again for all the guidance! Itā€™s been very helpful. Since weā€™ve posted, Iā€™ve signed a new lease and made it clear to my husband that I want to divorce and move forward.
    I move into my new home jan 15th and have been very open to him about this process and my plans.
    I told him right after thanksgiving and to be honest, it didnā€™t seem as if he took it seriously or wanted to accept it. He cried and said donā€™t do this and proceeded to spend the next couple of weeks ā€œwooingā€ me – telling me how perfect I al, how much he loves me, etc etc

    I stayed focused on moving forward and made sure not to feed into this and remained clear on my intentions. After a couple of weeks, I reiterated that this was happening and I had found a place, etc. He asked if I loved him anymore and I took the opportunity to tell him that I donā€™t have anything left – that Iā€™ve been a model wife , partner for over three years and he has only continued to insult who I am, beat me up for my past mistakes and show little to zero warmth in our marriage. I told him that Iā€™ve so much as begged him to work towards finding love for me and it hasnā€™t happened. I also took the opportunity to mention that Iā€™ve now officially kindly asked you to remove the tinder app from your phone and itā€™s still there. I also told him that Iā€™m not at all comfortable with the fact he still communicates with the woman he had sn affair with while beating me up over having an affair (that didnā€™t happen with him!).
    So it felt good to express those things even though Iā€™m very much finished with hammering all of this out as Iā€™ve done many times in the past.
    Iā€™m writing because the most interesting aspect of this that since then heā€™s done nothing to respond to those concerns. Instead, that evening he acted as if the conversation never happened and instead continued to try to ā€œwooā€ me romantically and play the perfect spouse by helping around house, etc.

    In my opinion if he truly cared a lot looking within, proving his care and respect for me, he would have immediately responded differently by saying Ā something like ā€œIā€™ll erase tinder now Ā and Iā€™m truly sorryā€ or ā€œ I can see how me speaking to my x affair would be hypocritical ā€œ

    but no – heā€™s done nothing to dive into the real issues which tells me he has no intentions of doing so

    I can say that if I truly loved someone, Iā€™d d do what I needed to do to keep them around

    in fact I did do that Ā for him and for myself but heā€™s not willing to do so

    Iā€™ve learned this is how a narcissist works now and I wish I was more aware in the beginning. I researched the term ā€œlove bombingā€ amx wow he fit the description perfectly. I make 80% of our income and he has always spent way too much money and been quite irresponsible with it. I wonā€™t even go into how bad thatā€™s been, but in the context of love bombing – I turned 50 last year and he presented me with a super lavish gift of Tiffany pearl necklace, earrings and bracelet. It was way over the top. It costs 6,000 dollars and he only makes 30k a year at the most. We are tight on money and heā€™s constantly beaten me up over that too. Yet he bought this gift and put it on credit paying 500 per month the next year to pay it off. That was 500 less he had to put towards our bills and it only put more stress on me to pay them. The lavish gift was the definition of love bombing and hypocritical / manipulative in so many ways
    Iā€™m focused entirely on moving forward and very much looking forward to the other side of this.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #410893
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    You all are very wise and insightful people and I truly feel blessed. Youā€™ve just added to my strength and helped me unearth what I really knew deep down all along.
    I will be moved out by the end of January and Iā€™ve already started to look for homes. Iā€™m filing the papers this week.
    God bless you all for your time and wisdom. You make the world a better place. And yes youā€™re right Iā€™ve more than learned from my past and ready to hopefully help others when needed too.
    again many blessings.

    in reply to: Lack of respect or cheating? #410827
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    There are so so many other instances of disrespect, mental and emotional abuse, and red flags that are not even worth going into. In retrospect, I feel like such a fool but this is what happens when youā€™re truly lost and not living your truth.
    thank you all again.

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