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February 25, 2025 at 8:15 am #443232
Jana 🪷
Participant📙 It is February 25, 2025, 17:15
It really helped me to go back to my childhood and accept my suffering. It was literally eye opening moment for me. Thank you for leading me there and being with me in my worse moments. I feel a relief and gratitude.
When I start this topic in my real life, most people react: “What is the point in digging in the past?”
In Zen Buddhism, it is not possible to reach joy without going to/through suffering. I accept that it is only philosophy for some people, a point of view, an attitude… but I wonder: Can people reach real joy without looking into their suffering? Or are they destined to suffer for good?
I know people who didn’t have to go deep to be able to forgive themselves and others, and process their suffering peacefully.
I know people who are in such pain that they are in constant denial… And it seems that nothing good can reach them. They call you stupid and worse when you try… How can they be helped?
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February 24, 2025 at 6:05 pm #443214Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Anita,
I do find myself as the one who has a different opinion, but I don’t have the urge to say it whatever it costs… without thinking about the consequences. The fact is that I am so slow that it might not be even possible to be aggressive. I mean it seems to me that confrontational people are quite hot-tempered, fire-like personalities… exact opposites of me. And that’s also why they hate me.
I agree that it can be a result of frustration or stress, too. But I was always submissive, maybe you remember… and in very unhealthy way… a submissive escapist, avoiding a conflict… rather completely isolated than confrontational. It is not good, either. I know. That’s why I’m on my way to self-compassion and hope to find healthy assertiveness.
I know people who are dominant but with the need to be protective. I feel better with them. But they can be unhealthy in relationships too when they become too controlling.
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February 24, 2025 at 1:23 pm #443211Jana 🪷
ParticipantThank you for sharing your experience.
I wonder. When I am in presence of too dominant people, I also freeze. But I am not sure what the source is… I connect this to my introversion and slow thinking.
I call “dominant people” those people who are loud, agressive in speech/act, very moody and always in the mood of attacking (gossiping, judging, you say “A” and they have to say “B” just only to have a reason to oppose and argue…)
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February 24, 2025 at 8:28 am #443194Jana 🪷
ParticipantI understand your anger. I will not bother you anymore. Good luck, Drew! 🙏 😊
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February 24, 2025 at 6:32 am #443182Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Drew,
Mindfulness DOES HELP with self-control.
How long have you practiced mindfulness? Have you had any troubles while trying to be mindful in your everyday life?
You need to go deeper into your problems. The results won’t come in a few days. Changes take time. If you feel like sharing more, we are here to help. But bear in mind that you must be open to discussion and advice.
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February 24, 2025 at 6:09 am #443181Jana 🪷
Participant📔 It is February 24, 2025, at 15:08
I spent the weekend with my dog outside in the meadows and woods. This was a great opportunity to connect with my inner child.
I sometimes have feelings that I was an animal in my previous life. I don’t know why, but I remember contemplating this as a child, too. I feel much more connected to nature and animals than to people…
I had a very peaceful time. So, inviting my inner child to me was not painful. It was my moment of the “return to innocence”. I tried to remember some events when I needed to escape into nature as a child…for example, when I skipped lessons… I didn’t experience any strong emotions, which made me feel balanced. I told her/myself: “It was the best thing you could do at that time when you were left alone at the mercy of terrible fear.”
Today I know, understand and accept that this fear was not unfounded… as I was told… And as I believed for very long time…
I also thought about my parents as children, which helped me feel deep compassion for them. I had great grandmothers, but I remember very well the moments when I was surprised by how cold and critical they were towards their children (my parents)… the difference between the roles… the role of a good loving grandmother and the role of a strict dismissive mother was so prominent… I remember that I used to like asking my grannies about my parents. What were they like as children and so on… And while my dad’s mom liked to go on and on about how he was naughty and what else was left for her to do but spank him, my mom’s mom pretended she didn’t hear me and tactfully changed the subject. … ☹️
I had to send my parents a GIF on whatsapp with a lot of hearts. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
And I was thinking that our dog used to be a puppy, too… and she didn’t have an easy “puppyhood”, either. She used to be a very scared puppy. But we are “good girls” today. 😊
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February 24, 2025 at 5:58 am #443180Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello ☀️
I haven’t seen Pirates of the Carribean. What kind of connection did you see in the movie?
Exactly. I choose to work with my nature, not against it. I used to have this mindset that others knew me better. They could see me from the outside and I thought that this outside view is more objective. I don’t know why I believed it. I guess it was the result of the harsh criticism I received everywhere in my social bubble and culture.
The thought on vulnerability is great. I agree. It takes courage to be vulnerable because we expose ourselves to the threat of being hurt. I connect tenderness with vulnerability a lot. These two are interconnected. Maybe that’s why I see tenderness as “weakness” because when I am tender and thus vulnerable, bad people have an opportunity to use me as a target of their frustration.
This is something I am still working on. I cannot defend myself without the feeling of guilt. I feel guilty to protect myself because I could hurt someone by being unskillful and I don’t want to do that. I am learning to protect myself skilfully… it is also a part of compassion and self-compassion.
I am very happy that your self-esteem and self-compassion have improved significantly, and criticism no longer devastates you, Anita. Would you like to share more about that experience?
I believe I have had these so called clicks, too. For example, I remember the moment when I realized that I would be in troubles if I didn’t stop using alcohol as my remedy.
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February 22, 2025 at 5:33 am #443141Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Anita,
At this moment, I am feeling my inner child’s pain— her acute sadness, loneliness, and craving for what others have: healthy connections and joy, which I don’t have. Notice that I wrote “I don’t have” in the present tense. The inner child is a core part of me, a foundational part, and her past experiences are felt as though they are present and always have been. This is who I am, and referencing Thich Nhat Hanh’s words, I can’t avoid myself. I can’t run away from myself. I can’t keep myself buried deep inside, (away from the misguided part of me that thinks or thought that life without.. me is doable or sensible.
I hope that socializing yesterday helped you to overcome these feelings. ☀️ I believe that it is important to write, talk and discuss about this, but we also need to put the effort into practice to achieve the changes, to be able to feel the changes.
I have a free relaxing weekend, so I can try to work on my connection with little Jana. Thank you for encouragement!
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February 22, 2025 at 5:25 am #443139Jana 🪷
ParticipantDafne,
I think you should try to work with your emotions.
What is it that makes you feel guilty? What exactly is holding you back?
We are not able to move on without processing our emotions. It is what I have learned here and what Buddhism taught me. Try to focus on your feelings and their source.
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February 22, 2025 at 5:15 am #443138Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Gabriel,
I thought my experience could be useful for you because I am a huge introvert myself and I have been in relationship with a man with a strong need for my physical presence for almost 10 years. And I am very happy (and lucky) to have him!
Are you sure that your anxiety is really connected to your introversion and not for example to a fear of commitment or anything else? I don’t experience anxiety when I am with my partner. He is a man I love and I enjoy his presence. It is all about working with my own energy. I don’t feel anxiety with other people (today… finally!), either. I myself would decribe the state as tiredness. I am really physically tired, feeling sleepy and a bit dull too when I socialize too much. I have rich experience with introvert hangovers.
The issue I had from time to time was that when I felt very depleted I didn’t have any more energy for my boyfriend. Then I was kind of cold, detached even when I didn’t want to be… I let him know about this and made sure that he understands that it is not him who is the source of my tiredness but simply my low bateries.
He is the type of person who needs a lot of touch, hugs, kisses… I do housework and he comes and hugs me. 😂 We sit together and he needs to be very close and hold my hand or stroke my hair. I mean, it is so sweet. I finally feel really loved and needed, but sometimes it was too much and I needed my space. The most important is communication – explain how you feel and make sure that your partner really understands that it is not her or her behaviour (if this is of course true in your case) which bothers you but it is your need for your personal space.
I wrote in the past tense because we both are working on it. BOTH. It means that I also have to respect his needs, it is not only about me and my needs. I reorganized my activities so that I had more energy and time for him. I started to cherish our moments together. Mindfulness and buddhist teaching on love helped me a lot with it. I am now trying to use his energy to boost my energy and really enjoy every moment, every touch and kiss… I found out that my problem was that I used to ignore my introversion and pushed myself into activities that were depleting me and then I had no more energy for the most important person in my life…
I suggest the same to you. Think about what exactly makes you anxious. I believe that healthy introversion is not about life in anxiety. Yes, I always become tired with people and face challenges with all the information overload, but I don’t feel strong negative emotions… introversion does not equal anxiety. It is not something wrong. It is only about our energy and how to work with it, which we need to learn in this extroverted world. The anxiety is maybe trying to tell you more about yourself.
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February 21, 2025 at 3:14 pm #443019Jana 🪷
ParticipantAlessa, I do understand. I find it especially hard to get in touch with my inner child. It still brings a lot of sorrow. I believe that we need to go through this stage to be free in the end. ☀️ 😊 I am trying to think about these sad moments in my life in this way. It brings me some comfort and contentment. Sad moments, pain, sorrow are neccessary too. We cannot move on without them. So, I no longer try to avoid painful memories but to process them with understanding and compassion. And step by step the sad moments are weaker and weaker…
I found this interesting article by Hanh: Healing the Child Within
Anita, thank you a lot. Have you ever thought about the ideas of strength, weakness, success and failure?
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February 21, 2025 at 8:12 am #443042Jana 🪷
ParticipantI am sure it will help me, Anita. I’ll come back on Monday and read your advice on PC to give it more attention. (There is one post in my other thread waiting for moderation from this morning)
I hope you are going to have a great weekend. Do you have any plans? 😊
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February 21, 2025 at 8:06 am #443041Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Dafne,
Let him go. I know that it is so hard to give up the last hope, but he only wastes your precious time. Imagine what a wonderful man you could meet if you let this spider go. For good. You concentrate all your energy in the wrong direction. Stop giving him chances again and again. Nothing will change with this man. He only gives you false sense of hope. He needs to heal before he can have a nice and honest relationship. You need a different man to be happy.
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February 21, 2025 at 6:06 am #443023Jana 🪷
Participant📔 it is February 21, 2025, 15:05
I was thinking about what I consume.
I think my diet is quite good. However, I sometimes eat little during the day and in the late afternoon I tend to eat more and then have troubles with my stomach. I need to become more mindful about this. I am working on eating more slowly and mindfully. And I eat at the table – no TV, no computer… I am happy that we started to eat lunch together in our dining room without TV at the weekends. But we still eat dinner and watch TV – it is a kind of ritual for us.
I don’t use social media. I tried FB but I think my account will stay inactive. It’s not my cup of tea. I don’t like the atmosphere. I am careful about what I am watching on youtube and pinterest. I watch channels such as elephantnews, trail cameras from different countries, Plum Village, BuddhisminEnglish and some channels about nature, for example BBC. Pinterest is fine. Its ad policy isn’t so aggressive and when you search pictures of nature, animals, buddhism, the algorithm gives you a lot of beautiful inspiration.
As for my thinking, I’ve made great headway since I started visiting this forum. I still have a lot to work on, but important is that I feel motivated and determined to continue in my personal/spiritual development whatever hardship is waiting for me.
My inner child is still so vulnerable…
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February 20, 2025 at 5:06 am #442997Jana 🪷
ParticipantAlessa, I didn’t notice your last post at 4:09. I’ll come back tomorrow to answer to you.
Meanwhile Anita (and others) can share some experiences, thoughts and support. 🌼
Looking forward to you!❤️
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