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HelcatParticipant
Hi Sandhya
It sounds like you have been through a lot in your life and are continuing to experience many more challenging experiences.
It seems to me that as we age, death becomes prevalent in our lives. I remember a colleague confronting her own mortality when her best friend suddenly received a terminal diagnosis of cancer at 40.
I have a good friend in his 70s and recently his two brothers both passed within a short space of time. He copes by reflecting on his memories and looking at pictures.
Death is a natural part of life, but it can be extremely distressing.
Having a support network is very important, if you are losing a lot of people that you care about it is important to make some new connections. You can never replace those people. But being alone can be extremely difficult.
A lot of the time people cope by being hopeful. But in the case of loss, this isn’t relevant. Perhaps acceptance is something to work towards? I find a saying comforting. The people you love are a part of you. So you can honour their memory as you live.
Do you have any strategies for coping with the feelings of loss that you are experiencing? As someone with a chronic pain condition, I’m curious about learning more about how you cope with pain. This is something I struggle with.
HelcatParticipantSorry Sandhya! I accidentally posted on the wrong thread please disregard the message above.
HelcatParticipantHi Anonymous
Sometimes feelings of guilt and shame are used as punishments. It seems to me that you are punishing yourself right now, for your mistake.
But do you deserve punishment? It is helpful? Are there any alternatives? What is there to learn from the experience?
It seems to me, the only lesson you can take away from this is understanding that drinking can lead to uncharacteristic behaviour for you.
I also experience uncharacteristic behaviour when drinking too much. My personal limit is 3 drinks. I know that I can control my behaviour within this range.
It might be helpful for you to plan as Anita suggested how to avoid similar situations in the future. Perhaps avoid drinking around men that arenât your partner? Or do not attend events which involve drinking without your partner present? Or set your own rule about alcohol?
My point is, other than learning from the situation, is there anything helpful to gain? It seems to me that self-punishment is only harmful. Once you have finished planning, there will be nothing left to gain from ruminating on this situation.
Perhaps you feel it is just since your partner is not able to react to the situation himself? But would he even want this? I think that your partner cares about you and would not want you to suffer.
Personally, I think that most partners would be able to forgive this situation. You have been very focused on what was said. But in the bigger picture, not focusing on the details. You simply flirted with an ex while drunk. Things didnât progress any further than that. Whilst unpleasant, it is entirely forgivable. It is not even a large mistake, just a small one.
Do you feel that your reaction is proportional to the situation? Are you beating yourself up for what could have happened, if you didnât stop yourself?
HelcatParticipantHi Anonymous
Sometimes feelings of guilt and shame are used as punishments. It seems to me that you are punishing yourself right now, for your mistake.
But do you deserve punishment? It is helpful? Are there any alternatives? What is there to learn from the experience?
It seems to me, the only lesson you can take away from this is understanding that drinking can lead to uncharacteristic behaviour for you.
I also experience uncharacteristic behaviour when drinking too much. My personal limit is 3 drinks. I know that I can control my behaviour within this range.
It might be helpful for you to plan as Anita suggested how to avoid similar situations in the future. Perhaps avoid drinking around men that aren’t your partner? Or do not attend events which involve drinking without your partner present? Or set your own rule about alcohol?
My point is, other than learning from the situation, is there anything helpful to gain? It seems to me that self-punishment is only harmful. Once you have finished planning, there will be nothing left to gain from ruminating on this situation.
Perhaps you feel it is just since your partner is not able to react to the situation himself? But would he even want this? I think that your partner cares about you and would not want you to suffer.
Personally, I think that most partners would be able to forgive this situation. You have been very focused on what was said. But in the bigger picture, not focusing on the details. You simply flirted with an ex while drunk. Things didn’t progress any further than that. Whilst unpleasant, it is entirely forgivable. It is not even a large mistake, just a small one.
Do you feel that your reaction is proportional to the situation? Are you beating yourself up for what could have happened, if you didn’t stop yourself?
HelcatParticipantEven if you are not hungry, please try and eat and drink. It helps to regulate emotions. It may be worth trying some supplements that aid sleep such as valerian root or melatonin. Or speak to a doctor about sleeping pills. Sleep is also very important for emotional regulation.
This situation is still very fresh in your mind, it will take some time to process. It has hurt you deeply.
HelcatParticipantHi Anonymous
If we have discussed this previously, I would suggest that your actions do not match your values. Perhaps this is causing you pain and making you feel like a âterrible personâ.
I don’t think you’re terrible. But it isn’t about what we believe, it is about what you believe.
When you are feeling calmer, try considering…
A) What is a terrible person? What traits do they have? What do they do?
B) Do you match that criteria?
C) List the all of ways that you are a good person.
Another helpful exercise is what would you say to a friend in your circumstance?
HelcatParticipantHi Tara
I’m sorry that your mother continues to act in an abusive way by ignoring you and even went to the extreme of leaving the house.
None of this is your fault and is the result of your mother’s own deep rooted issues. Her behaviour is hers alone and is nothing to do with you.
It speaks a lot to your character that you chose to appease your mother even though you bear little responsibility for the situation and had previously apologised for the lying – something that you only did because you were uncomfortable with the unreasonable behavior.
Please take care of yourself and try not to worry about her. Have faith that she will work through her own issues of her own accord.
HelcatParticipantHi Arabella
It sounds like you have serious concerns about how this revelation would impact your relationship. In this case, protecting the relationship may be the sensible choice. This decision is yours alone and ultimately, it is you who knows best how to manage your life.
Do you have any uncomfortable thoughts that accompany the feelings of guilt and shame? You don’t have to divulge them, but when you are feeling calmer it might be a good idea to address those thoughts with self-compassion. In the meantime, ruminating on this subject isn’t going to resolve this issue. Please take care of yourself, practice self-care, eat, and rest. Forgiveness starts and ends with not beating yourself up over it. It can be a journey.
HelcatParticipantIf not telling him would save the relationship from pre-existing issues. It is understandable not to want your relationship to end over something like this.
HelcatParticipantHi Arabella
I don’t think anyone would react in a positive way but the question is would the response be reasonable and proportinate?
You were drunk which lowers inhibitions. You made a mistake, it’s not a huge problem.
I’m not suggesting that you divulge everything. There is no need to mention painful details that would only hurt him. He is your partner, not a priest. The purpose of discussing the issue would be to treat him with respect.
There’s a good chance that he could be insecure for a time because you breached your partners  trust. Perhaps you would have to earn that trust back, being a loyal partner this should not pose an issue as you have nothing to hide.
Previously, you had never been disloyal or dishonest. But dishonesty is very much what you are considering now and flirting with an ex isn’t being loyal.
Do you think that it is better to flirt with an ex or a stranger / an acquaintance? For me, I would consider flirting with an ex worse because it means that there are some underlying feelings.
It’s not about relieving guilt, it is about being honest, treating your partner with respect and accepting that actions have consequences.
Telling him wouldn’t change what happened, but it would mean that you keep your honesty and you would be breaching his trust once as opposed to twice. The second breach of trust being hiding the issue. There is a difference between a drunk breach of trust and a sober one.
I think the only good reason not to divulge this is if your partner isn’t emotionally stable or if he could react in an unreasonable way. What kind of problems would you imagine could occur? Could this issue significantly damage the relationship? If so, it seems like there could be some issues with the relationship.
HelcatParticipantHi Arabella
Personally, I don’t think it’s quite cheating since there was no sexting and no emotional element. However, it’s not great either. On the plus side, despite being drunk you maintained a level of propriety making sure not to cross that boundary into sexting.
I think it entirely depends on the nature of your partner and culture whether talking about the issue is appropriate. If your partner has stable mental health and is a reasonable individual it would be an uncomfortable or even a difficult conversation but likely it would be possible to move past it without causing harm. However, if your partner already has difficulties they could struggle and be hurt by this.
If your partner is stable, then personally I value honesty over hiding it to avoid a difficult conversation. I think being honest shows that there is nothing worth hiding.
That being said, we don’t know the contents of the text exchange so it is hard to gauge accurately.
How do you think that your partner would react?
When it comes to forgiving yourself. Generally, how I approach it is acknowledging what I have done and apologising while committing to not making the same mistake again.
Whilst you believe that you are loyal and honest, it sounds like there are some challenges with that. The question is why? Is there anything underlying?
HelcatParticipantHi Kris
Sorry to hear that about the difficulties with your relationship. It sounds like youâre doing all of the right things.
Driving up to visit was very kind of you and a great idea to have a face to face conversation.
Itâs great that youâve come to a realisation that you need to keep the romance alive in the relationship. Iâm sure this will serve you well.
Regardless of what happens next, you are trying your best. I wish you both all the best!
HelcatParticipantHi Eric
Do you honestly believe that anyone deserves to be hit?
This is a form of self-abuse for you. Even in the previous message you are verbally abusing yourself by claiming that you deserve to be hit.
This is what domestic violence perpetrators sometimes say to their victims.
I would encourage you to wait until you are feeling calmer to reply. When you are able to think clearly and refrain from self-abuse. This is when you are going to be able to make progress.
I am not saying this because I wish to cease communication. On the contrary! I would love to continue this conversation. I just know from my own experience that it is near impossible to be kind to yourself while these feelings are still raw.
I have an idea for you regarding conversation practice. You write beautifully and visualisation is great technique that has a similar impact to performing the activity itself. Could you write about how you would have liked the conversation to go with this girl? Please only  do this when you are feeling calmer.
Have you tried yoga before? It is an excellent way to develop relaxation skills. Learning to properly relax could help you learn to better manage your anxiety.
I hope you take care of yourself in this vulnerable state. You deserve to take especially good care of yourself right now. What are your favourite treats or some comforting / distracting activities that you enjoy?
HelcatParticipantHi Tara
It’s good to hear that you got out of an abusive relationship!
As for your parents, I think that your instincts are correct about the controlling behaviour regarding your location and who you go out with.
Working two jobs and studying, you sound like a responsible young adult. For both of these reasons, you deserve your freedom. It does seem like they are struggling to see you as the adult that you are.
I understand what it is like to lie to parents when they are unsupportive and judgemental of who you are spending time with. I would imagine that you were trying to avoid that reaction? It doesn’t sound like you meant to hurt any feelings.
I think it matters that you were honest when the situation was discussed.
How are you holding up with the stonewalling? This too is a form of abuse. It’s not great that they tried to gaslight and blame you either. The whole situation seems verbally abusive and  (I’m not a fan of this word) toxic.
I think you are a very capable of making this decision yourself. So I wonder, what would your ideal resolution to this issue look like?
On a happier note, how are things with this new man?
HelcatParticipantHi Eric
If you think about it this way, communication takes practice. In an important situation, say speaking to a girl you like or someone that you want to be friends with it is going to be stressful for you without practice. This is why starting out small and frequently practicing is important. It prepares you for when you do get around to an important conversation and because of practice you would feel more confident in your ability to handle the situation and less stressed. Stress does cause mistakes in communication. So lowering the stress with practice is very important.
In my experience, social anxiety is not really about other people (aside from ptsd triggers with bullying). A large component is how you feel about yourself because really it is not others judging you, it is about you judging yourself. I bet that girl really didn’t think too much about that encounter, yet you spent the evening berating yourself. You really do need to be kinder to yourself.
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