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May 18, 2023 at 6:31 am in reply to: My Girlfriends past is preventing me falling in love with her #418854HelcatParticipant
Hi Harry
Itâs definitely interesting hearing your opinions and concerns about three ways.
I would perhaps agree, if theyâd repeatedly shared this experience. Say if it were more of a poly relationship between the three of them.
But it sounds like they tried it a couple of times and decided it was better to remain as friends. So perhaps not so much a relationship style bond, still just a friendship bond. Perhaps the experience actually meant more to the couple because they got to explore together?From my perspective, I think it would be better to have a partner when pursuing a three way as long as everyone was comfortable. It would seem more awkward being the 3rd wheel if you will. But Iâve never had a three way. So Iâm really just guessing. Your gf might be able to share her opinions about this.
Also, I think that sleeping with a partner is romantic than a three way. A three way seems more like a fetish or something to do for special occasions or to add spice every now and then. Considering that your partner said she would be open to it once or twice. Likely she agrees.
Perhaps youâre thinking about it because youâre considering trying it as part of your relationship? It is a big decision and it is hard to say how it would affect the dynamics of your relationship. As you said, it is a bit of pressure if you both decide to go down that road. If youâre not sure about pursuing an experience like that it might be worth revisiting that discussion. Or at the very least discussing your concerns about the situation may ease your fears regarding it.
Please feel free to share any thoughts!
Itâs good to hear that things are going well in the bedroom in your relationship. Sheâs a lucky lady to find someone like you after having difficulties with her previous relationships. I hope that she is treating you well too.
Wishing you both all the best! đ
May 17, 2023 at 1:56 pm in reply to: I am afraid that my mental health issues will be the end of my relationship. #418842HelcatParticipantHi Karl
I agree with Roberta.
You entered into this poly relationship. Now do you expect her to not be poly? Because if you havenât discussed this, itâs an unrealistic expectation.
Did she promise not to get romantically involved with her ex again?
The issue is that you arenât communicating your actual wishes. Instead you are blaming other issues. It doesnât come across very well if youâre not direct about addressing problems.
It sounds like you care about her. But a monogamous relationship might not be what she wants. You will have to ask her. If the relationship ends because she doesnât want a monogamous relationship that is okay. At least you will have been honest and things can end in a healthier, kinder way.
There is always the chance she might be okay with a monogamous relationship. But you will have to control your anxiety and be direct communicating issues instead of expressing your anxiety indirectly in the future which isnât very healthy. Again, you are going to have to clearly communicate with her about this. It will show that you are willing to work on anxiety and communication.
Wishing you all the best! đ
HelcatParticipantHi David
Summarising what I gathered from this is that you flirted with another woman while you were drunk and hugged or cuddled her. Would you agree?
I think that if you told your partner she would be understanding especially since you feel bad about it. Do you think this is true?
It sounds like a source of anxiety for you linked to your earlier fantasies about exploring options outside of your relationship. What do you think about this?
Thoughts are just thoughts though and theyâre automatic on some level. Theyâre not actions. Youâre not a bad person for having doubts every now and again. Just human!
Wishing you all the best đ
HelcatParticipantHi Tom
Our values are dependent on our beliefs. Everyone has different ones! Everyone has difficulties. Some have difficulties with time keeping. You’ve noted that you have difficulties with patience and compassion.
If you’ve repeatedly talked to someone about an issue and they haven’t resolved it, it might just be a matter of accepting who they are.
For my sister, if she says that she will be ready at a time. I know my sister. She’s got difficulties with time keeping. I figure that she will be an hour or two late. Expecting that she will be late and planning for that means that I don’t have to wait around for her.
Are there any specific thoughts or feelings that come up when people don’t meet your principles? Sometimes people can feel that others don’t value their time for example if they’re consistently late.
Self-soothing is an important skill when other people upset us because honestly, we all have to deal with inconveniences at times caused by others.
HelcatParticipantI think courage is the perfect word for it.
I feel like managing pain is perhaps one of the greatest challenges we all face. It means overcoming human nature.
Wanting to walk my dogs motivated me to work on my health. I didn’t want to give them up and I didn’t want them to be cooped up inside. In no way, shape or form is the process easy though.
guess I just see meaning in outcomes. I don’t have grand dreams. Just taking care of myself and my family because I’ve always struggled in some way or another with simple things like that.
HelcatParticipantHi everyone
I guess my perspective on hope is different. Yes, absolutely hope can have a dark side. For lack of better phrase.
It’s still a powerful motivator and an agent of change. It’s very difficult to change something without imagining it, unless chance intervenes.
That being said, if the focus is always on a new drive, there is never going to be acceptance.
I think understanding is an important element of hope. If you hope without understanding it can result in negative outcomes. Like expecting to get a job after one application. It’s unlikely to happen unless you’re extremely lucky. But if you understand it will take multiple applications, tailoring a cv, relevant experience, networking, good references and interview practice. Then the outcome is very likely to be positive in time and less stressful because expectations were reasonable.
Of course, understanding and knowledge can be acquired retroactively. If failures happen, there is often a chance to try again.
I’ve found that patience is essential. If pressure is for change to happen now, of course it can result in pain.
I found that physical pain taught me maturity and to appreciate my life in ways that I didn’t when I was younger. Ultimately, to me function is more important than pain. Pain is never pleasant and it has it’s challenges. It certainly takes time to adjust to these challenges.
Tee I hope that you find your own unique way through these challenges. You’re an awesome lady and I’m rooting for you!
I can share that of all of the functioning people in their mid 70s I know with the best health. They focused hard on leading fit lifestyles and maintaining their mobility / function.
Another important thing to know is that it takes two weeks of lack of use for muscles to atrophy. In my experience it is difficult and can take a long time to regain what is lost.
Wishing yaâll all the best! đ
This thread is a fascinating read.
May 14, 2023 at 11:03 pm in reply to: My Girlfriends past is preventing me falling in love with her #418752HelcatParticipantHi Shaydee
I think you have a really good perspective on this already. You have a lot of emotional maturity and self-awareness.
Please only answer the following if you are comfortable.
How do you feel about your own sex life with your partner?
I only ask because on the surface a three way sounds like a fun thing. I would think of a partner as sexually adventurous if they were open to things like a three-way. But I hear that three ways don’t always go well. If anything, it tells me that your girlfriend is open minded.
I’m curious about your thoughts and feelings about this? Does it raise any fears for you? I would imagine it could feel intimidating for someone who has a different background and has experienced anxiety and difficulties with relationships previously.
It’s okay to have different experiences and backgrounds. You are different people! One positive thing that you can expect in the future is that you have an open minded partner. I’m sure that together you can have much better experiences than a three way situation. That is only something that she only wanted to try a couple of times. She will want to be with you more than a couple of times for sure. Clearly, a loving relationship is much more fulfilling to her than a three way.
HelcatParticipantHi Saggad!
I’m glad that you found all of our messages helpful and know what you need to do now.
Ah right, so you were angry at yourself for not being able to forgive. I hope that you aren’t now? Feeling that you wanted to forgive but can’t quite get there just speaks to your character. Perhaps forgiveness will occur naturally in time? You do have a beautiful heart! Wanting to forgive is perhaps more than she deserves right now. For now, perhaps simply wanting to forgive is enough? I do hope that your pain over this situation eases a little every day.
For people who have deeply wronged me after a long time and a lot of healing. I found that I can pray for them and hope that they learn from their mistakes and become better people and that they are guided on this journey. This is as much forgiveness as I can achieve.
P.S. Thanks for the warm welcome Brandy! Nice to be back đ It certainly made me chuckle when Tee and I wrote and posted similar replies at the exact same time.
Wishing yaâll all the best! đ
HelcatParticipantHi Mia
That’s awful! I’m so sorry that you had to deal with that racism at a place that is supposed to be safe for everyone in the community. It says a lot about the coachâs character that you weren’t supported when you were clearly wronged. That guy was begging for an ass-kicking. Well done on defending yourself during the sparring session, taking the graffiti matter to the police and removing yourself from such an intolerant place. No one should have to deal with this! I’m glad that some members supported you. It sounds like there is a divide between racists and non-racists now.
It sucks that there are no other options nearby. I hope that you find another hobby. You’re a brave and strong lady! Â I hope all of this settles now that you’ve left the club.
HelcatParticipantHi Saggad
We all make mistakes, especially when we’re young. I know I did. It hurts so much when you first learn that there are people like that in the world. Fortunately, there are good people in the world too. Having good experiences will help you learn to develop trust in others again.
A therapist taught me to identify unhealthy relationships. I understand that you haven’t found therapy helpful though.
Based on what you said, I think you already know how to identify difficulties. The question is why do you think you stayed in that relationship even though you knew it was unhealthy? Perhaps you need to trust your instincts when you notice problems?
There is a saying that helped me, âWhen someone shows you who they are listen.â
You have a very kind nature and bad people will use that against you to help themselves and in the process harm you.
Taking small steps when trusting people has been helpful for me. If they prove trustworthy, I can take another step and so on and so forth. If they prove untrustworthy, I step back.
My therapist always said that anger is a good thing. It let’s you know when your boundaries have been overstepped. Stealing someone’s house is unthinkable. You have every right to be angry. I can’t imagine how much pain that woman put you through.
These feelings will pass in time as you heal and process the trauma. It really is a severe trauma. It would actually be strange if you weren’t angry and hurt because of this situation. I know it’s painful, but it is an expected emotional response to such a devastating situation.
Please be patient with yourself and your emotions. Do your best to take care of yourself and your needs. Be extra kind to yourself while you hurt over this.
HelcatParticipantAnd of course, never give anything of value to people with money problems unless you are okay with losing it.
HelcatParticipantHi Saggad
I’m sorry that you experienced that betrayal. Personally, I don’t believe in forgiving some things. This is one of those things that perhaps shouldn’t be forgiven. It might even be a good thing to fully express how terrible that situation was because you’ve been rather polite about it.
All you need to do is learn from it and move on. The truth is that you did make mistakes. A good therapist would tell you that you have been making some risky dating decisions by choosing relationships with older women and long distance.
You freely gave your legal rights to someone that you weren’t married to and you described that relationship as manipulative and abusive.
You are not the first person to lose their house after giving their rights away. You now understand exactly how important those rights are. Before you didn’t.
The person you need to forgive is yourself. You were young, kind and made some bad decisions.
All you need to do is make better choices for yourself and walk away from relationships that don’t make you happy.
HelcatParticipantHi Frozenfireflies
No, he didn’t pursue therapy. I’m not sure if he read books or other resources about the subject. I did occasionally send him link to websites that I personally found helpful. He does have some psychological training though as he used to be a therapist a while ago. It’s interesting to learn that even people with psychological training can experience these difficulties. So imagine how hard it is for someone without training.
I got that impression from you that you try and avoid disagreements because of his reactions. From my perspective it seems like he might be the one voicing concerns more frequently. Like he did the other day. Unlike you, he doesn’t feel afraid of how you will react.
Have you always avoided confrontation in all of your relationships? Or is it something that occurred with your husband only?
I think you did a really good job of standing up for yourself when he was critical. You didn’t back down after he tried to shut you down. It sounds like standing up for yourself that second time was more successful as seemingly he didn’t say anything after that?
I can see how much effort you have put into maintaining healthy standards of communication. I hope that he learns from your good example.
Wishing you all the best! đ
HelcatParticipantHi Roberta
Thanks, I really appreciate your contributions on this forum too. You’re pretty awesome too!
I hope to keep learning and developing my communication skills, empathy, emotional resilience and maturity.
I think if I leave, that’s the largest chance Anita will return. If she is ever ready for us both to peacefully coexist I’ll be a message away.
Until then thank you both!
Wishing you all the best. You’re all in my thoughts and prayers. đ â¤ď¸
HelcatParticipantHi Frozenfireflies
It’s good to hear that in some circumstances that your husband is understanding and acknowledges his mistakes.
I would agree with you his history has caused some difficulties with his communication style. He lived that way for 30 years. It is going to take some time to undo.
For my husband it took 6 years of work throughout our relationship to develop a healthier communication style. It honestly takes time.
I don’t necessarily agree that your husband isn’t interested in changing. He might simply not know how or have sufficient emotional control. Like how you have difficulties taking a break in these situations. I agree that he could benefit from therapy.
I can understand how his behaviour feels dangerous and is a trigger for you. It doesn’t sound to me like you are in the wrong at all
There is a question that my therapist used to ask me constantly. Now I will ask you the same question. When is the first time you remember feeling similar emotions of danger and the need to pursue in your life?
I can understand why you feel hurt in your example of your recent example. He was criticising you. I’ll add that it is a very common criticism in relationships.
Yesterday, I had a massive energy bill. My husband asked me to put the heating on through winter and I did as he asked despite my preference being to save money. I was upset by the energy bill. I said this is because you wanted the heating on all the time. Why don’t you wear layers? He said he does and still gets cold and was a little flustered. We cuddled after.
Yesterday, I was cleaning the shower and my husband came along. My husband tried to dissuade me from cleaning the shower. He asked why I was cleaning it and said that I would hurt myself. I said I have to do it because no one else will. He said he cleans everything else around here. I said you asked, I just answered in a sassy way. He joked know your butt is right there. I said you can kick it just be gentle.
These are common small squabbles that don’t really mean anything if you have a healthier relationship. I think the difference in your example is that your husband doubles down when you defend yourself against criticism. It sounds like there’s some emotional pain carried around on both sides.
I can understand why it feels like he’s blaming you and criticising your character. The truth is that there’s nothing wrong with your character. You forget things sometimes. People who have higher standards typically complain if things aren’t to their liking. But it doesn’t mean that you are doing anything wrong. He is having difficulty with his own feelings because of his own standards.
I would suggest that your husband’s back pain is also a factor in his communication difficulties too. It’s not right, but it does make sense. I know I have experienced that too.
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