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Hi Stacy
I think careless is the word to describe his attitude towards the relationship. Like I said before I donāt think heās a bad person, just that heās not healthy. Some people with depression have difficulty caring about others because theyāre so focused on their own misery.
From what youāve said he seemed very focused on himself and his own misery. You putting him on a pedestal made him feel loved and special.
But you were also going to therapy and one thing therapy does is encourage you to set boundaries and stand up for yourself when something isnāt right. Which would make him feel bad because he was unwilling to change his behaviour and the problems would reoccur. Itās a cycle and the healthier you get in therapy by refusing to let things slide the way he wanted them to the more stress it put on him in the relationship because he has to decide if heās ready to actually change his behaviour. Unfortunately, he wasnāt.
So I donāt think thereās some sinister motive. Just a guy whoās depressed and careless. Which makes sense because as you shared, you did have some good times together. The long and short of it is heās just not ready for a healthy long term relationship yet. Which isnāt surprising for someone who has general difficulty developing and sustaining long term relationships.
He simply entered the relationship with his own issues and he couldnāt get past them.
And youāre at a healthier stage where youāre demanding better treatment. Which is a wonderful thing!
September 11, 2023 at 11:16 pm in reply to: Confused on How to Deal With This Side of My Boyfriend: Am I overreating? #422015HelcatParticipantHi Anonymous03
Iām sorry to hear that you had a fight with your boyfriend.
I think itās hard to gauge fully what happened because you didnāt share what initially upset your partner.
Obviously, bringing up the past with your previous bf, threatening to leave (which you actually did first by asking if he wanted to break up) then he did it back to you, and insulting your dreams are not things people are supposed to do in arguments and make people feel very hurt.
It looks like there were some triggers going on for both of you. He made that comment about your dreams which triggered you. Then you asked about breaking up which triggered him and he said more hurtful things following that.
The argument clearly escalated when you were both triggered. In the past, has he behaved similarly in arguments when heās triggered? Because a concern for you is that he could behave similarly again.
Wishing you all the best! š
September 10, 2023 at 11:28 pm in reply to: Boyfriend quit job and is borrowing from me.. I feel so anxious #421984HelcatParticipantForgot to add that I was also in debt at the start of my relationship due to health issues. I didnāt ask for money, my now husband just gave me some out of the goodness of his heart for groceries, so I could eat. I told him he was crazy and shouldnāt try to help strangers because you never know who is a scammer and who isnāt. I paid off my debts and paid him back.
Also recently, weāve been going through financial difficulties because of various things happening. I supported us through that with my savings. These things have an ebb and flow in a relationship. People take turns looking after and supporting each other. But ideally, you hope that you donāt need it.
September 10, 2023 at 10:37 pm in reply to: Boyfriend quit job and is borrowing from me.. I feel so anxious #421983HelcatParticipantHi Neha
It seems like this experience with your boyfriend has been an emotional trigger for you. Do you want to talk about the experiences of poverty that you grew up in? I can understand the direct parallels between your current and past experiences and that this is causing you a lot of pain.
Can you explain a little more about the situation why your boyfriend quit his job? There are some valid reasons to quit a job. Iām curious what his reasons were.
Itās good to hear that you do still have financial stability with a good amount in savings. Itās also good to hear that outside of the money issues he is treating you well. And it gives me some faith that he was always generous when he had a job.
I can understand the concern with money issues affecting the relationship. A trait people look for in a partner is the ability to build a future together and with him accruing debt this calls into question this future.
It is a fact though that at some point in every relationship everyone goes through similar circumstances. It sucks being unemployed and it can take a year to find a new job. Is he putting in the effort to actively look?
I think hard times are the best time to actually understand the nature of your partner. Itās easy for people to be kind when things are going well.
I hope that he finds a job soon and pays off his debt so that you can both recover from this experience and put it behind you.
I would also suggest being clear that you donāt plan on marrying him while he is still in debt. He does need to show you that he is capable of building a future with you again by paying off his debts.
I went through a similar experience with my now husband. He wasnāt unemployed but made some choices and had difficulty managing his finances and ended up getting into debt. I just told him that I couldnāt marry him until he sorted out his finances and in time, (when he got a better job) he was able to pay off his debts. He also learned to become better with money during this process.
As for the money he owes you, itās ultimately your decision how you want to proceed. I know that youāre not yet married and everyone has different perspectives of how they would like to handle things. Do you have any thoughts about how you would like to proceed?
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Positivitea
Iām glad that the physical symptoms of the third trimester are okay, it sucks that itās taking a toll on your mental health though. I would recommend doing your best to take care of yourself and lower your stress levels if possible.
I learned recently that there is a reason for these mental health symptoms! You may have heard of stress hormones such as cortisol before? Throughout your second and specifically your third trimester these stress hormones build in your system to 3 times the normal amount to protect the pregnancy and prepare your body for labour. It is distressing to experience, but it is also part of the process.
I donāt think you have failed your husband. You have some very high standards for yourself. What happened was a small thing and when you asked you told him the situation without all of the details. You were honest, you may not have told him the whole truth. But I believe that you did so out of empathy to protect his feelings and your relationship. You didnāt want to cause your husband any unnecessary anxiety. You just wanted to be honest, do the right thing and let him know what happened.
You deserve empathy for the situation with the kiss when you were younger. In the past, you went through some difficult times in your relationship. I think that causes doubts sometimes and it sounds like the kiss was you exploring those feelings. After it happened you immediately understood that it wasnāt helpful and what was important to you. You actually figured out what you wanted and how to get through the situation with your now husband as a result. And boy did you make it! You ended up with the future you dreamed of with him.
One thing that helped me with forgiveness is practicing empathy and understanding towards myself. What would you say to a good friend going through a similar situation?
I think because of your high standards and values you will be an excellent mother. You care so much! You just have to dial it back a couple of notches to pull back from the self-punishing thoughts.
Remember that this stage of pregnancy exaggerates your feelings. It can make things seem worse than they are.
You could even tell your husband the details of the situation if it would help put your mind at ease. But I also donāt want you to deal with any more stress than you are already going through.
I can understand the uncertainty over raising your first child. A bad parent wouldnāt care. You do care, a lot!
Do you have everything you need prepared for the baby being born?
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
Iām sorry to hear that youāre struggling. It does make sense with the anniversary and the break up that things are very hard at the moment. Please take good care of yourself, you need it the most when you are feeling at your worst. ā¤ļø
You keep blaming yourself for the breakup and various things. But it sounds like part of you is identifying things that he has done wrong. Yet, you suffer with confusion as to whether these things you have identified are valid.
They are.
Therapy can be helpful. But ultimately a therapist canāt do the work for you. Iām referring to your ex here. There are people who can go to therapy for their whole lives and not get anywhere if they refuse to make any changes. What your ex learned in therapy and at home is how to talk about things. But talking doesnāt replace the action. The action is necessary for growth.
He would often use his talking skills developed in therapy when you confronted him with valid issues and turn it around on you.
He āvalidatedā your hurt feelings about liking the sexy photos. Then proceeded to refuse to change his behaviour pretending that he wouldnāt know which things you would take issue with when you provided a very clear description. By trying to blame your anxiety and hurt feelings he effectively manoeuvred himself into the situation that he wanted. He didnāt have to change his behaviour. Whilst it might be true that in some circumstances you could experience anxiety at him liking clothed pretty women. You understood that asking him not to like every woman would be unreasonable and you managed your anxiety around that issue.
He knew and understood that liking sexy photos was wrong of him and hurting you. Yet, he chose to do what suited him, what gave him pleasure.
How a healthy loving partner would have replied to your request to not like sexy pictures. They would have simply agreed and not done it again.
You keep blaming yourself for various things throughout the relationship but you both had incompatible lifestyles. You could never have had a future and lived together because of his addiction to smoking weed. Physically, it would have made you ill because of your health issues. He clearly had no plans of the relationship progressing.
A healthier person would have tried to deal with the addiction to build a future with their partner.
I donāt like how he refused to introduce you to his friends either, using weed and your health issues as an excuse. Do you see a pattern of him subtly blaming you to get what he wants?
A healthy person would have told his friends about your asthma. Decent people are happy enough not to smoke for a couple of hours if it would make someone unwell.
I donāt doubt that he was kind and caring sometimes. No one is mean 100% of the time. And he had this unique trick of subtly blaming you to hide the fact that he was being cruel. With your shame about your own mental health issues and difficulties with negative self-talk I would imagine that you found it difficult to stand up to this.
Because he could communicate well and be charming, he could make you feel cared for at times. You have been through so much in your life that it felt like love. But love is where actions match the words. And there are many things he did often that were unkind.
agree that he was trying to change you by asking you to shame him. This is actually what I was referring to in my reply before about him ignoring your boundaries. Even with the photos that was him ignoring your boundaries.
Iām not suggesting that he is a bad person. But he is unhealthy and not capable of a healthy relationship at this time.
glad to hear that you are seeing a therapist! It sounds like things are going well with your therapist because you are correctly identifying valid issues. You just need to learn to trust your instincts a little more.
Iām so sorry to hear about your family issues past and present. That must have been terrifying as a child when your brother was having an episode. The metal covering the hole in the bathroom is a heartbreaking image. You deserved so much that unfortunately, your parents were unable to provide. Every child deserves to live comfortably, every adult too! Itās sad that this isnāt a reality experienced in the world.
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Buddah
If it was just the studying situation thereās a large chance youād still be together.
Life happened. She accidentally got pregnant and that messed things up. It sounds like she couldnāt cope with the stress. Itās not your fault. An abortion is a difficult thing to go through. You did the best you could from afar. I bet you were just thinking about her wellbeing talking to her about the partying too. It sounds like you did well communicating with each other until the break up, itās just an immensely difficult situation.
I can tell how much you love her. I bet you had some amazing times together. Life is really hard sometimesā¦ Iām so sorry that youāre both going through this. I bet sheās in just as much pain as you. Please remember to take care of yourself during this difficult time. Do your best to eat and sleep.
Please feel free to write about anything youād like to share.
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Ben
Iām sorry to hear about the break up. It must be difficult dealing with such a loss.
I think you knew the risks going into the relationship since he was dating someone else throughout.
This relationship might not have had a future. But you chose to enjoy it anyway. It sounds like you had some wonderful times. It hurts to lose the relationship, but it was the inevitable conclusion. All you can really do is cherish the memories and perhaps consider a more stable relationship in the future if that is what you want.
What do you think drew you to a relationship with a person that was unavailable?
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Paul
Iām sorry to hear about the break up. How are you coping with it?
Iāve actually experienced something similar in a past LDR relationship. Basically, people can be one way online, but a different way in person.
At the same time to some extent this can occur with dating in person too. Some people can behave in certain ways during the initial dating period but have difficulty with sustaining it. Some people might be great to date or be friends with but when it comes to living with them theyāre unbearable.
People are complicated. Long distance relationships are also inherently risky because they often donāt work out. As long as youāre aware of the risks and willing to take that chance itās fine. But it seems to have blindsided you a bit.
You shouldnāt blame yourself. Itās the nature of the situation and people in general. You gave it a shot and took a chance.
Thatās incredibly brave and it makes sense for you to be brave and take a chance as those are core values for you as an adventurous person who loves travelling and having new experiences. Things wonāt work out sometimes but that is okay.
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
Iām sorry to hear about the breakup. How are you feeling? How are you coping with it?
So it seems like there were a lot of issues that were going on. His mental health issues and porn addiction. You both experience financial hardship and live with family. You are 2 hours away from each other and only got to see each other mostly 2-4 days a month, occasionally 6 days a month and he never put in the effort to communicate from a distance. And you experienced anxiety about the relationship. No wonder.
One issue is that you have been treat so poorly in the past that you thought this relationship was healthy. Iāve been there tooā¦
His actions never matched his words. He agreed that he should communicate more but never tried to. He said that you being vanilla was okay and that he was over his previous exploits, but he tried repeatedly to get you involved in things that you were uncomfortable with and he clearly wasnāt over. He agreed not to like sexy pictures on social media and then did it anyway. Lying to you about the attractive trans person he was spending time with. He talked about a future throughout the relationship, then tried to gaslight you at the end saying it was you that didnāt want a future with him while HE was ending things with you.
It honestly doesnāt sound like heās in a place where heās capable of having a healthy relationship. It sounds like he was telling you what you wanted to hear, keeping you around until you both got fed up. Because his lying would always result in you being upset and he was unwilling to change his actions.
One mistake you made was the stalking of his social media. But at the same time, I think you were using this to try and understand if your concerns were valid, which they were. But in a healthy relationship you donāt have to get to this point. Because the way someone treats you matches their words, so you donāt suffer from that anxiety. That anxiety you felt throughout the relationship was a warning sign that this relationship is unhealthy.
You honestly deserve better! So much better!
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Positivea
Wow! 13 years is a long time to be with someone. Itās incredible that you guys saw each other mature over the years. Youāve both been through so much together. Iām glad that you ended up settled and happy together. Itās no easy feat!
Congratulations on the baby! Iām sorry to hear that youāre experiencing some anxiety during the pregnancy. Itās definitely a thought provoking time. Which trimester are you in? How are you finding the symptoms physically?
Iām sorry to hear about the difficulties with your father that you experienced during childhood. Itās not an easy thing when all of these memories surface during pregnancy.
All of this part of the process of you coming to terms with being a mother and figuring out how you want to parent. Honestly, it is a lot and hormones donāt make things any easier. Iām glad that your husband is being supportive while youāre going through this.
Do you think that all of these memories are related to the fears around being a failure and not bonding with the baby?
For example, it could be argued that your father was a failure as a parent and didnāt bond with you. And even your mom had difficulty because of the situation with your father as she was working and supporting your family. Perhaps this other memory of the kiss is a memory where you felt like you failed? Perhaps it also links into your fatherās infidelity slightly? Though it was in no way shape or form the same thing.
You were younger and going through a lot at the time and in the grand scheme of things a kiss is a very small thing. Itās good that you shared that experience with your husband and he forgave you. What do you think it would take to forgive yourself?
You sound like a good person! Being concerned about being a good mother shows your good character. Perhaps it would be helpful to reframe the fears and plan how you do want to parent? Iām sure that you will approach parenthood with the same love and patience that you showed your husband.
Wishing you and your family all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Buddah
Iām sorry to hear about the abortion and the break up. Thatās a lot of change you both went through recently with you moving abroad for studying and an abortion. Did you ever talk about these changes as a couple?
I would imagine that it could be a difficult time for your ex-gf atm. I can see what sheās saying about you not being there for her. You were in a different country. There was no way for you to be there for her unless you flew back to her. She had to deal with a lot essentially alone. Itās not surprising that she wasnāt receptive to you when you chastised her for blowing off steam and partying.
How are you feeling about everything that has been happening with the abortion and the break up? How are you coping?
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Brian
Yes, I agree itās difficult to define and everyone has their own unique definition.
For me, statistic unlikeliness is a factor. Iāve had a lot of unusual things happen. Thereās only so many times that I felt I could say thatās a coincidence!
I guess, I also feel like my life is a preset path that Iām just walking along. An element of fate, if you will.
And the last thing for me is Iāve always been quite sensitive to the emotions and natures of other people, so I believe in souls.
And no matter the difficulties I experience, it might take time, even sometimes a long time. But for me tough times usually get better. It does take work though.
Iāve been quite lucky because a lot of people donāt get the help they need in life. Iāve been fortunate to have plenty of people help me along the way.
Iāve come close to death a lot over my life. I honestly didnāt think Iād make it to 30 or have a husband and a family. Yet, here I am. Despite the difficulties Iāve experienced, I was somehow born with hope and resilience in my nature.
Is there a reason that youāre thinking about this topic at the moment?
HelcatParticipantHi Brian
Personally, I do think life is divine.
I was raised in a cult and I went from being an agnostic atheist to actually believing in some kind of higher power because Iāve had a range of unusual experiences.
I think itās hard to suffer and believe that thereās no reason for it. Overall, my experiences of suffering have made me a kinder person and I do my best to learn from them. The lessons are hard, for sure. But Iāve been very lucky to have good things happen in my life too. Life is a delicate balance.
Learning to cope with depression has taught me that there are many beautiful experiences that emotionally we sometimes close ourselves off to when weāre not coping well, yet they still happen all around us. The trick is learning to pay attention to these experiences and appreciate them even when we donāt feel like it.
Iām curious to hear your thoughts about life and divinity?
Wishing you all the best! š
HelcatParticipantHi Sarah
The good news is that you are young. My husband didnāt get to grips with dating until his late 20s.
I think a large part of dating is meeting lots of new people. Do you socialise a lot with new groups of people? For people your age this might mean going to parties, volunteering or clubs about hobbies? Are you interested in using dating apps?
Are you quite rural or in a city? How would you describe yourself when meeting new people? Do you think that youāre shy or outgoing? Itās entirely possible that youāre not good at noticing when someone is interested in you, or perhaps youāre not interested in the people who do take an interest in you?
What kind of qualities are you hoping to find in a potential partner? Dating is a like a lottery, a numbers and chance game. There are so many different people in the world looking for specific things. Itās okay and expected to not be compatible with everyone.
I think my tactics in dating came from a general lack of interest in dating and being actively flirty on the rare occasion I did take an interest. So my expectations were low and I was pleasantly surprised when things did work out. I understood that it didnāt have to work out because I wasnāt attracted to many people.
I wish you lots of luck in your journey of finding a partner! š
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