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Free MoonParticipant
@cat,
I hope you had a great weekend!
Has your co-worker been stuck-up and snobby to the managers, as well? I find it odd that they don’t find her attitude as bullying. However, I do hope your plans run smoothly! In the 5 years you’ve been at your job, I’m pretty sure you’ve learned a lot along the way, even learning how to endure and be patient with your co-worker. I’m excited for the next chapter in your life! 🙂
Haha, I think I came up with Barbz’ name because of Barbie. I called her out last month on her attitude because she was negatively commenting on my physical look. Let me tell you how it went…
I grabbed one – a singular piece of round chocolate with a diameter of no more than half an inch – Lindt chocolate from our office snack bar, then she said, “Are you sure you want to eat that? Your face will go… *proceeds to make hand motions of my face expanding*” My face went red out of disbelief, but I calmly told her, “You don’t say that to people. It’s impolite to point out people’s flaws in public. Even my friends and I don’t talk to each other like that.” Her defense was, “Oh, but I tell our boss she’s getting fatter and she’s okay with it.” I said, “People react differently; some are more sensitive than others. I still think it’s rude to say things like that.”
I put back the chocolate in the snack bar. I signed up for the gym a few days after that incident. I’ve been going to the gym 3 to 4 times a week for more than a month now. I’ve completely stopped talking to her; I don’t look her way, I don’t go out of my way to make her feel left out like what she does to me, I don’t associate myself with the kind of person she is. So far, it has become slightly better for me, but I’m still upset that I let this happen to myself for almost a year.
Free MoonParticipant@Cat,
That’s definitely a hard “yikes” on her behaviour. How have your other co-workers dealt with her? Did they bring up the issue to HR, as well? What was your manager’s opinion about the whole situation?
It’s difficult to have the best of both worlds; either the person has a great personality, but poor work ethics, or vice versa. I find it upsetting that people who, like you said, have a lack of awareness aren’t willing to put themselves in other people’s perspectives. Sometimes, what might be the worst decision, but bring the best result is to physically remove ourselves from an environment that’s deeply affecting us in a negative way… but it’s easier said than done though. A toxic environment we’re both experiencing hinders our opportunity for growth.
As for Barbz, I found it easier to ignore her like the way she’s doing to me because that way, I don’t have to worry about my life co-existing with hers. However, the problem is I’m still quite affected by her because she makes it obvious she has no willingness to improve her personality. My other co-workers who speak Cantonese/Mandarin know when to switch their language to English, so that everyone else can join, or at least, understand the conversation too.
I wish you the best at your work, Cat! I’m hoping you do find another job where a behaviour like your co-worker or Barbz aren’t allowed to prosper.
Free MoonParticipantHi, @Cat!
I can’t believe people with this kind of personality have no sense of empathy! I’m sorry to hear about how your co-worker’s treating you. Let us know how her demeanor is when you go back to work in March.
I didn’t think bullying would exist in a work place full of – what’s supposed to be – mature people. It’s unfortunate that bullying isn’t dealt with properly, seeing as how it probably exists in a lot of work places. My patience has been wearing thin with Barbz and I’m afraid I will lash out at her at any given moment. It’s easier to imagine confronting her in my head, but when it comes to real life, I’m worried I might say something simple that will be taken out of context.
My conclusion is your co-worker and Barbz will definitely get along together… yikes. 🙁
Free MoonParticipantHi, @anita!
It’s nice to hear from you again. 🙂
From my understanding, it is the latter; that Barbz might use the knowledge she got from our company to another company. My boss mentioned that Barbz is the only one who cares about the job out of the 4 or 5 people they hired before her, but nonetheless agreed to what I said about Barbz’ personality.
Free MoonParticipantanita,
How do I approach with setting the limit without seeming like I might be controlling his actions? :/
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Eliana,
I’ve tried talking to him about it, but his response is usually, “What do you mean? I always ask you how your day is.” When does ask about my day, it just eventually shifts to something else he wants to talk about.
Free MoonParticipantHi, Anita,
His tone is mostly of annoyance, but I know it’s not towards me. It’s just the way he handles his stress that makes me feel like I should be responsible for it which makes me feel frustrated.
When he’s stressed about work or his family, he will rant about the situation, and I’d listen and offer advice if needed. Usually, he will rant for the entire time and not even ask me about how I am, so I just turn quiet and be silently annoyed.
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Eliana,
Please don’t apologize; I should’ve been more clear with our situation.
It kind of just started to happen. He was in the process of moving places with his family and is just now settling down, and he is about to start school again, but he’s stressed because he can’t get into all of his classes at the moment. I, on the other hand, am just mostly stressed about saving up and paying off my school debt which I started just last month. I guess, we are both dealing with our own stressors in life and we don’t know how to lean on each other for support.
I’ve been trying to be more calm because I want him to be able to confide in me, instead of us fighting each other about small petty things.
Free MoonParticipantHi, Eliana!
We’re not in a long-distance relationship. We usually see each other twice a week. In person, we would sometimes argue in person, as well… :/
Free MoonParticipant@greenshade,
Have you communicated your observation to those “friends”? If you have and they continued to purposely leave you out in their plans, then you know those are the kind of people you don’t want to associate yourself with. The fact that they’re making sure to let you know you’re not invited in their every rendezvous is a form of bullying, I would say.
I have no doubt that you are likeable, and you are attracting / will attract people who have the same energy as you do. You’re already working hard at making genuine friendships with these people, so that’s definitely admirable.
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Free MoonParticipantHi, @Halle!
I am the same way as you. I noticed that I’ve been easily getting frustrated with my boyfriend lately… which is something I noticed with myself when I was with my ex-boyfriend before.
What Anita said about feeling angry when we’re hurt or scared, I can account for. When I’m hurt or scared, I don’t know how to place my feelings properly which manifest into something I cannot control, like anger. Unfortunately, my anger likes to latch onto someone I’m very familiar with, which is my significant other. The closest conclusion I can come up with is that my insecurities are projecting on to him. I fear of being abandoned, so my ego does its silly dance with emotions.
Like you, I am struggling, as well. In my case, what I do is I communicate my feelings and fears to my boyfriend to help him understand why I am upset. It’s difficult for me to even do because I know deep down my anger has nothing to do with him, but with myself.
With you, be as open and as honest with your boyfriend, and don’t sugar-coat anything of your feelings. When you feel like you’re about to lash out at him, try to keep quiet for a few seconds, close your eyes, and breathe slowly. Ask yourself, “What am I angry about? Is it reasonable? Is it something that won’t matter the next day and I should just let go of?” Write down the attributes you love about yourself and the ones that you think need serious improvement on. Ask your boyfriend what are the things you say/do that he doesn’t like, and likewise, he to you. It’s better to find a compromise now than pushing it off at a later time when it’s too difficult to handle.
Best regards,
Free Moon
Free MoonParticipantHi, @greenshade!
How did you come on too strong in the past? Was it a personal realization or was someone honest with you about it?
It might be difficult to gauge what is enough and what is too much, which might also depend on what kind of people you’re trying to have genuine relationships with. There have been times where I think to myself, “Do my friends actually like me or are they just tolerating me?” Eventually, I came to realize how I acted when I’m with them and how they are with me. We’re happy in each other’s presence and we find ourselves missing each other’s company. We love each other because we love how unique each of us are and we grow together.
As cliché as it sounds, just be yourself, but also, be aware with how you present yourself to other people. It’s just like slowly stepping into water; you want to adjust yourself with the water’s temperature until you’re comfortable swimming in it.
Best regards,
Free Moon
Free MoonParticipantNot making it a single-life issue is true. I should be focusing on improving other aspects about myself, while having a growing relationship with my boyfriend and helping him out, as well.
This may be a question I should be answering myself, but I will you ask you too (and anyone else who is reading is). How should I treat the female friend? Due to me feeling uncomfortable when she’s around, should I continue talking to her like I usually do or keep her at an arm’s length for now until the feeling dies down?
Free MoonParticipantI hope to resolve it before it gets worse… 🙁
He’s very important to me and I hope to have a wonderful life with him.
Free MoonParticipantHi, all! My apologies for the late response.
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@Dee,
You’re right; I should stop analyzing so much about why she makes me feel uncomfortable and just accept it. I’ve been trying to figure out why for the longest time as to why I feel that way towards her and until now, there’s no definite answer. Maybe it’s about her or most likely about the pre-existing situation I’ve talked about with @anita before.
They haven’t talked or hung out in a while which – as bad as it sounds – makes me feel relieved. When I talk to her or hang out with her, I feel completely fine and actually vibe with her. However, when she and my boyfriend are in the same setting, it changes my mood in a second and my trust for her goes away. It’s a funny thing the way the mind works.
My boyfriend has been the most understanding about this situation. All he has shown me are love and patience, and has constantly reminded me that there is nothing to worry about. I trust him and he hasn’t given me any reason not to… except maybe from what I mentioned before. There are a lot of things I have to let go of… Sigh.
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The nanny story has been in the back of my mind ever since. I’ve mentioned it to him again and he understands where I’m coming from because he has similar feelings from his childhood. Every time I start getting anxious regarding him and the female friend, I visualize the story of the nanny and I start to have a less clouded mind. It just gets exhausting… I’ve developed a habit of ruminating over the situation as if there’s no tomorrow.
I’m hoping there’s another way to resolve the pre-existing feelings… 🙁
Free MoonParticipantEliana,
Thank you for taking the time to read my posts!
My boyfriend and his female friend haven’t talked in a while actually, and my boyfriend doesn’t seem to mind at all. They just gradually communicated less when he and I started dating. The only reason they got close was because they talked to each other about relationship problems with their significant others at the time, but before that, they were merely just friends who didn’t hang out with just the two of them. Before he and I got together, there was this small feeling that something was off about her being there. Something just didn’t sit well with me, but it’s likely that it could be my fear talking, right? My boyfriend told me that his ex-girlfriend didn’t like this female friend either, undisclosed reason why.
November of last year, I found texts with said female friend and they were planning on going for coffee with just the two of them, but it didn’t happen. It was not a good read for me, as I’ve already told him previously that I don’t feel comfortable with just them two hanging out alone. He didn’t tell me about this plan either, so just only recently (as in sometime this month) did I bring this up to him. He said he slightly remembers the texts and thinks that probably the reason why for the plan is to talk to her about how I uncomfortable and upset I was.
January of this year, she posted a picture of him and his dog on her Instagram account. She has not done this to any of her guy friends, just my boyfriend. The next day, she tagged me in it. Either my boyfriend talked to her about it (which I doubt he did) or she thought of how uncomfortable it would be for me to see it, so she just tagged me in it. I have mixed feelings about this situation.
At first, I felt uneasy that I caused a drift from their friendship, but now, I don’t because I cannot be sure that I am the cause. I know these things are probably small compared to more critical issues that other couples are facing, but I am really bothered and I’m constantly going back and forth with whether I’m going crazy or being reasonable.
However, if boundaries are crossed once again, either coming from him or her, then I will definitely be beyond upset and just feel betrayed. I would not know what to do.
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Most of my response to Eliana also corresponds to your reply.
I’m not sure if asking my boyfriend now to cut off all contact with her would be the right time as they have not talked in a while. Her birthday was two weeks ago and he didn’t even greet her (his reasons were he forgot and he was lazy), despite me trying to put down my ego and told him to greet her.
Just a few days ago, I finally told him that I don’t trust and asked him if that’s okay for me to say. He said it’s understandable and he trusts my intuition. He didn’t get annoyed or mad at me which I appreciate.
As you can tell, I am at extreme ends of the spectrum, and I just keep going back and forth with being okay with her, then “resenting” her, then back to the cycle. I don’t know what I feel towards this female friend anymore. Do I like her or do I actually “resent” her? Is she someone I should keep at arm’s length, in case she does something that crosses the line, or is she someone I should continue talking to and find out that nothing’s really wrong?
Sigh… I’m going crazy. I just want to hibernate for many, many, many years…
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Free MoonParticipantI am coming back here to ask for more advice.
Since the time I posted here, I noticed that I’ve harboured a lot of “resentment” for this female friend of his (I’m putting the word in quotation marks because the word is a bit too strong, but I can’t think of a more mellow one right now).
In almost two months, every time she comes up in a conversation – especially when it’s coming from my boyfriend – I suddenly feel this “resentment” rising up within me. I express my dislike right away more often than I would not like to, then after pausing and breathing, I feel immediately bad for what I feel towards her. I don’t understand why I’m insecure of her when I’m in a good relationship with my boyfriend. Somehow, I still feel threatened, even though she hasn’t really done anything suspicious to me or my boyfriend – at least, not that I know of.
Just yesterday, my boyfriend posted an Instagram picture about Father’s Day and she commented with a heart. I felt my heart beating fast right away and texted my boyfriend that I felt uncomfortable. He reassured me that it’s harmless and that no one else can take him away from me. He’s very understanding about this situation, but I don’t want to push his patience to its limits. I only let him know what I felt because I’d rather be honest to him than to bottle this feeling up and explode later on.
I’m becoming silly and ridiculous… I even bought a Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Dummies because the anxiety is getting out of hand at times.
Any thoughts? 🙁
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