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farnazParticipant
Dear Anita
Thank you for understanding
It will be a pleasure for me to agree with you at any time that I agree with you, and there’s been lots of pleasure so far! aaww that is so precious , thank you , that was a pleasure to me to agree with you too , i
m not just saying that , many many times i
m impressed by your ability to analyze the situation .Yes, only she (the mother) exists. There is no one else in the whole wide world but her, a victimized deity. She (the mother-deity) was born to have a superior, majestic life fitting her deity-ness, but alas: she received the short end of the stick… poor unacknowledged and mistreated deity. this reminds me a particular mother an infamous one called diane dawnes who killed her children because she wanted to be with another guy who didn
t want kids , only one survived out of 3 , who became paralyzed , again when police arrested her in suspicion of murder she got pregnant to get sympathy and elongate the period before trial , you can watch the documentaries about her in youtube , i can
t find a better example of abusing children for benefits of the mother.“I ate (the soup) for you too, lol“- you must have left some in your plate because I am smelling and tasting it right now… delicious! lol , unlike me you have a very good sense of smell
This step mother is like a teenager, 13, or 14, and an immature one, Stuck in a development age with a passive-aggressive, sneaky, gossipy, competitive and unintelligent personality, never to break free from it. I imagined for a moment being in your shoes, and this.. (not a lady) Lady Tremaine living with me, it wouldn’t have ended well, not for me and not for her… it’d be nightmare.speaking of unintelligent , oh my god , that`s the worse part , i mean if you add stupidity to all her unpleasant traits , it would be unbearable . there is an old saying in persian which is in my opinion very brilliant and i quote A wise enemy is better than an stupid friend, at least i could respect the first one . another of her very good qualities were enjoying her sweet times when she made a chias , it was natural like breathing to her , i bet she misses this part alot .
stevia/ monk fruit sugar (noncaloric natural sweeteners.. i `ve never heard of it , i searched a little bit about that , and it turned out it grows naturally around north of Iran , where i live, but i should search more
congrats to your 20 kilo loss too , that
s hard thing to do .I prefer way fewer choices because it’s easier to choose when you have fewer choices, and I don’t want to try e.x., all the many flavors of ice-cream and the many desserts.. too many calories and I don’t burn that many! there is some thing called sugar addiction and it
s as powerful as cocaine addiction . nobody can burn that many . about the time i decided to lose weight i was paying attention to prices much more and i realized usually the price for flavored full of sugar or salt is much lower for healthy alternative snacks in first look obviously of you buy the ingredients and cook it multiple times then that would be cheaper plus its ready , but you should prepare most of healthy food , the price for soda and industrial fruit juice is depressingly low and it
s available , there is a conspiracy against people held by food industriesfar
December 24, 2022 at 11:09 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412570farnazParticipantdear Anita
sorry for replying back so late , the week started as an storm here , i know this is weird because it is weekend and holiday for you , i prefer to write back tomorrow around noon , with more peace of mind . i hope you had a good day .
take care
Far
December 23, 2022 at 11:10 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412522farnazParticipantdear Anita
it`s always refreshing to see your posts , specially when you agree with me , lol .
no, i mean when you say screw these people
never-ever-never-ever lol anything about her not feeling well. Instead of lol-s, there would be lots of woe-is-me, oh-how-terrible-is-my-life, poor me.. crying, wailing, complaining, accusing that
s not surprising for me at all my mom was basically looking forward for opportunity to play a victim and she enjoyed that and she was obviosly thinking herself as better and more important that us , for example if i said something that scared me to death and made me so stresssed ,like a near accident I would die immediately i wouldn
t survive that , as if it didnt matter if that happened to me or any other person and also it
s an excuse for them to be even nastier , and they can guilt trip you if you get upset.I like the more stuff in a soup! that was delicious , i ate for you too , lol ,
I will borrow your expression earlier in your post (with a change of pronoun) because it is very fitting here: she is an a%% hole, screw her! (Or maybe better say: she is an a%% hole, don’t let her screw you any more than she already did!) i totally agree with this paragraph and the next one you wrote in last post , she definitely misses her power , she doesn
t know how she can reach me , when she married to my dad , from the beginning i believe she had a plan in her mind to make my life miserable , like cinderella's step mom , i guess , lol . but she was and still is so sneaky , she tried to cut my dad from me , then she tried to sabotage my education and my mental health , she does it by being passive agressive and do what ever that she knows she would piss me off , crazy making sneaky stuff , it was obvious that she wanted me as underdog who gets all the s^^^. screw her . i can imagine what she would say if she had a relationship with me or lives with me , in her dream of course, she would brag about her money which i
m not sure thats even there because i
ve never seen a rich person who says he is rich , she would brag about her brothers who live in us , about the car she is driving which was my dads , so it
s really not hers and should be splitted after we sale it and she would have no boundaries and invade every inch of my space and do all crazy making stuff . in general she would brag about stuff she didnt actually achieve herself and frankly so petty . i don
t mind about her bragging but i do mind about the satisfaction she gets from it . so again screw her , let her say anythings she wants to say to drag me down in her eyes , nothing would change and she doesnt have the power anymore , and screw everyone who believes her , i don
t need themI used to buy a dozen after 12 pm (half price) and eat them all. Eventually, the magic of the donut was lost.
I hope that you continue to recover this weekend! By the way, do you like donuts? unfortunately yes , you know i have a problem with food i tend to eat emotionally , i gained 12 kilos after a hellish summer in Iran , when i had serious problems with my dad and his wife , i couldn
t get rid of my extra kilos for years ,until 2 years ago , i
m still dieting because if i let myself go , i would gain weight immediately , i only eat sweets once a week and other days i eat dark chocolate , but i love them , not particularly donut , all the sweets , actually i remember another fights with my dad , i cut contact with him for one year and when he saw me he said oohh you didnt get any more weight , he liked the effect he had on me i guess , screw him too , i admit i have the tendency to think he wasn
t in fault and his wife would make the life hell , but he enjoyed it , he definitely did .i hope you enjoyed the thanksgiving though i believe it was 2 weeks ago?and i don`t think any one of childhood snacks which exist to these days , have the same taste maybe because they are industrially produced ?or there are too many shape and taste to choose from all the time ?
hope to hear from you soon
far
farnazParticipantdear Anita
the situation took for worse and i started to take an antibiotic , i
m better now . i don
t know whats with me but i rarely get infected by viruses as cold but always with bacteria , i didn
t catch covid during the pandemic either although i was in middle of it . but i`m not mad about it , lol .today is weekend here and i stayed at home just drinking tea , milk and something like soup but with more stuff , and so far i feel better , but i`m going to restroom every 5 minutes because of too much liquids , lol
I feel sad for the two of us as well. And I add: we are worthy of love, for crying out loud :that a%% holes , screw them , of course , we are worthy of love , more than they do
it always makes me feel good to read that my thinking/ analysis is right (when it is) because it is the opposite of my mother’s distressing message to me, which was that my thinking was WRONG, WRONG and WRONG i know what do you mean , for most people is very hard to see that others see through them , obviously for the one who wants to deceive you , others not so much , they don
t have anything to hide anyway . but it
s crucial for a narcissistic parent to devalue your point of vue if you trust your feeling , you wouldnt trust them , do you ?so the main point is make you feel crazy , that
s a very dirty plan but essential for them to have a control on you , i personally dont dream to go back to those days when i believed them (specially my dad and his wife ) they were invading my privacy especially the wife and my dad was making excuses for her that was even worse her actions and when i said somethings he was like you are delusional what people would think about you if you say that to them , this is funny . no, they wouldn’t, and indeed no one was there to protect their (living-and-breathing) PROPERTY! (I am angry this morning, so it seems!) you have the right to be angry sometimes , but hopefully not living with it , that was so unfair . during past weeks i heard from some people around me that my step mom was talking bad about me , because i didn
t reply her calls and agree to meet her in my new place , let alone having her invited to live with me for a while , i got very angry , not because her bad words but for her delusion and grandiosity that her think im responsible for her loneliness and fear of darkness and whatever , i
m puzzled from all the people she has a relationship , im the one whom she expects to care about her , me , the one she enjoyed abusing and turn my father against me , i felt like even this women thinks i
m her property because once my father protected her to make my life miserable , what the hell . is there something wrong with me that let her believe she could stay in my life and somehow upset me , because its her biggest joy ? Some people understand only power, when it comes to changing their behaviors: my mother stopped hitting me only when I literally stopped her by holding her hands in mine with enough power to stop her from moving toward me. Prior to that, my expressed pain didn’t stop her, my resignation and submissiveness didn’t stop her. i think the latter would encourage her to hurt you even more , i
m glad you overpower her some people never get to do it. The others had Power. We didn’t. very well said but it`s sad , the parents are the one who have to raise you an strong one not abuse their power .I wonder if you over-exercised yesterday i could barely walk yesterday , lol and yet i did walk , it was n
t joyful and made me more sick , well mistakes were made . i hope you are doing ok , actually i had a fruitful day despite being at home . i think it
s holiday season inUS and most countries , do you celebrate Hanukah? sorry i dont know anything about it but i guess it
s around this time of the year .far
December 22, 2022 at 10:24 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412338farnazParticipantdear Anita
i think even the city is more silent when it
s snowing , i don
t know why , maybe snow the shield against noise ? i have no ideahonestly i don
t feel good right now , my thighs are sore because i did work out yesterday and it was hard and i think i
m catching a cold , i`m so drowsy .for a young child, there is no solid self vs mother. Instead, there is a nothingness of sorts, as far as content goes, a blank page (self) that is facing a mirror (mother). Whatever the mother expresses is written into the blank page. So, if the mother expresses hate toward the child, the child’s blank page has this written on it, in bold, black print: I am hateful, I am deserving of hate (others’ and my own)! how you can have an image when you are so small , you need your parents guidance and approval to feel safe , i`m so sorry for both of us , that was message , we are not worthy of love and worthy of hate .
“based on standards of society, mothers are always right“- this standard of society (that mothers are always right) are based on the early societal need to maintain order in the home (for mothers to be effective in the disciplining of their children), so that the men will be free to go outside and do what needs to be done to maintain the home (hunt, fish, grow crops, chop wood, fight an occasional enemy, etc.). as always i
m impressed by your analysis , you are exactly right ,in absence of a man , the woman should be feared , apparently only when man is not present . i
m a strong believer that anybody needs someone to check on him/her in any age , im not saying in controlling or demeaning ways , but it
s in the nature of human human beings to do nasty stuff when they think there are no consequences , usually in dysfunctional families there is no boundaries and the parents can come and go and say whatever they want and change their opinions whenever they wanted and choose whatever benefits their purpose in that particular time , they can insult you , gaslight you and projecting their own insecurities on you , they do it because of many reasons including they think you are their properties and second one in my opinion they think there is no consequence for their behavior know that I am not right, but what are you going to do about it? You can’t go anywhere! she was cornering you as my dad did if someone was here to protect us , they wouldn`t dare to do it , did they ?regarding your last 2 paragraphs , first i
m so sorry for your experience , i can feel you and relate to you , it
s so heartbreaking to be and to do everything for someone and seeing them to devalue it and abuse our needs . i repeated that pattern over and over in my life , i idolize someone when they only think of me as doormat . but dont you think that also relates to the fact that we are their properties , we have nwhere to go and there is no one to protect us AND we were so needy of their kindness and so desparate to see their good side that we would forgive them instantly AND THEY KNEW IT . they knew they could do whatever they want with us but not with others . the others were people , WE weren
t .far
December 20, 2022 at 11:55 pm in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412246farnazParticipantdear Anita
your post made me laugh specially the part : I imagine a Farnaz elegantly walking in the City of Rain…LOL
(I can’t drive/ be driven in the deep snow. I am living outside the city limits and therefore, there is no city-sponsored snow clearing service here… and there is way too much area to be cleared by people without heavy duty snow clearing machinery). that happens here too , i think it was ten years ago we had such a heavy snow that we couldn
t move cars for one month , because we lived in a narrow street which wasn
t assessable by cars . i like snow and i have no idea how that makes everywhere so silent , and the sky so red , at least here .* Does the above qualify as what you wanted to talk about?… please let me know. I am not sure and I don’t want to not accommodate your preferred topics. Yes i like to hear from your experiences as much as you like to share i like the phrase There is a saying: the proof is in the pudding, and in this context, it means that if my mother loved me, I would have felt loved, and there would have been some evidence of her love in my being.. but there is none. this is so true and so sad , you couldn
t realize that time because you were a child and you thought this is your fault that your mother behave lke this and i can imagine you thinking my mom doesn
t love me , that would be so scary and how could you dare thinking like that based on standards of society mothers are always right . i read somewhere and i quote ^when you treat your kids badly they wouldnt stop loving you but they stop loving themselves . and i think that was brilliant i
m wondering if something particulier happened to you that lead you to this realization ?farnaz
December 20, 2022 at 10:30 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412209farnazParticipantdear Anita
sorry for not replying soon
yes i had a presentation to day , that was ok , i need to correct some parts , the main reason to not replying was awful net connection , it showers rain here , usually the net would slow down a lot . but it
s nice , i like the sound of rain , actually my city is famous of being rainy , it
s called city of rain but this fall we didn`t have a lot of rain .of course I understand it. How rude it would be of me if I insisted on talking about topics that made you feel depressed and helpless! I mean, it is minimal courtesy (and minimal love) to not knowingly cause or increase a person’s helplessness and depression! And yet, our parents did not bother with this MINIMAL courtesy, and minimal love. thank you so much , your reply warmed my heart , xo xo .i `m glad i can be honest to you and i appreciate your understanding .
actually i was thinking about good topics we can talk about , what do you think about telling our stories of successes you had after the therapy and all works you have done to overcome your childhood experiences ?i don`t think that happens in one night but i mean the similar situations that happened to you but you reacted better than before and you realized you are no longer as affected by traumas you had endured in childhood ? you once told me about the moment you realized your mom is enjoying hurting you . do you have a similar experiences ?
farnaz
December 19, 2022 at 11:00 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412161farnazParticipantdear Anita
when all you can hear was the loud GOOOOOAAAAAAL and the cheering from TVs inside homes. When you entered a home, no one would notice you unless there is a break in the game i like the feeling, it makes a sense of unity between people and makes you forget about problems for a while , i used to be more in football when i was a teenage because i had a crush on players, mostly . lol .but i only watch national team matches now , i thought you would be interested because you have french root, and i was for France too but most iranian are Argentina fans.
regarding all the politics bs , to be honest , i really don
t want to talk about it , it makes me so depressed and helpless , actually i discovered when i think about money or politics , it means i
m sad or its the beginning of getting depressed , so i should change my routines to prevent it to get worse . i don
t to be rude , ive just being honest . i hope you understand that . i
m sure we can find something to talk about which is interesting for both of us .Farnaz
December 18, 2022 at 11:49 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #412071farnazParticipantdear Anita
were you watching football match ?france vs argentina ?haha , streets were empty here , just women were doing some glocery shopping .
most of what you listed here (3-5: the value of money, cost of living, home ownership) is happening all over the world for regular people (people not in the position of privilege and power), but in some countries more than in other countries. i agree , but i doubt they have such an increase in prices in a very short time AND a lot of them have more freedom than ours
It is a shame that there is no way to make it happen… they are some people who actually benefit from the regime and there are people who can
t risk losing more , i don
t think im in position to judge people who are not protesting , because i myself am a pessimist in this matter , nothing got better from political point of you during my life time , the new president was always worse than the last , with one exception . but in last 10 years , the economy in iran went down to hell , the cost of living increase 20 times more expensive . i sincerely hope like anyone that someone would change , i
m not hopeful though.farnaz
farnazParticipantdear Anita
thank you, actually it went great but there is another one on Tuesday , i hope that goes good too .
“I think what struck our analysts at CIA is both the duration of those protests, now almost three months on, and their scope, because they seem to cut across Iranian society, cut across ethnicities, socioeconomic groups. It is about a growing number of Iranians who are fed up, who are fed up with economic decay, with corruption, with the social restrictions that especially affect Iranian women. They are fed up with political oppression, fed up with the denial of basic human dignity. So, in the short term, I would — I don’t think the Iranian regime perceives an immediate threat to its grip. It still has some very practiced habits of repression and brutality that it’s continuing to employ. In the long term, though, I think the reality is that this is an Iranian regime does not have good answers for what’s on the minds of a very young population, 70 percent of which today is under the age of 30” i
m amazed because it is very accurate , i
m not particularly interested in politics nor i follow the news so closely but as an iranian it was obvious for me that all this protests was not only about killing mahsa , its about all limitations the government put for us . 1)getting a visa to go to another country you also can transfer money to another country because all iranian banks are sanked all over the world 2) internet : is limited and filtered 3)the value of our money is currently lowest 4)COST OF LIVING basically we are paying like western europe , every thing is so expensive and the prices are going upper in matter of days 5) having a property is a dream for most of us , in the past our parents could save money getting loans and they would me a home owner in few years , now it
s not possible with this economy , it`s like a dream which never gonna come true , there are a lot of sad stories about young people who did protest and they were banned from education, they can be in prison , killed or needed to flee the country and the regime also haunted their family for example they were denied employment because of relation they had with that family member .yes we have a very young population , and the majority have lost hope about the future in Iran , unless something changes.
far
December 17, 2022 at 12:01 pm in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #411934farnazParticipantdear Anita
I read your reply , i
m glad i made you smile , i
m kinda stressed about an appointment tomorrow , i`m gonna reply to you arround noon in my timetake care
far
farnazParticipantdear Anita
second smile of the day appeared as I imagined the Far (good and beautiful, high in status) Naz (charming and elegant) literally kicking the guy’s a**! well , you know sometimes even Farnazes should do some a&& kicking , even though they are beautiful , elegant and high in status. lol .
looking from the outside, seeing an older woman talking to a much younger woman as if they were two teenage girls does look strange.. but looking at it through your step-mother’s eyes, a teenager in her own mind.. nothing strange about it. yes exactly and she never didn`t fail to amaze me that how immature she is .
she is the kind who wouldn
t be as happy for what she gets for her efforts as much if something offered it freely to her , and she wouldn
t be happy if everybody is happy , she should be happier than others , that`s why she made every situation about herself by ruining the day or the occasion .I see what you meant by your father having enjoyed the two of you competing for his affections, one was significantly more emotionally mature than the other. i don`t understand how our differences make it enjoyable ?could you elaborate ?
I agree with what you wrote in your last paragraph. I will be following the news , as far as i remember that was the longest protest in iran and i hope that would end in something positive , there killed so many people in street so far and claim the one who protests are brain washed by us government and ENEMIES OF THE REGIME , this is all they could say for any protest in iran , what else they can say , apparently , iran
s situation is so perfect in their minds and nobody with a functioning brain wouldn
t protest.far
December 16, 2022 at 11:14 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #411898farnazParticipantdear Anita
you should fix that computer asap , i can
t imagine how it
s held together by clips , i know it`s very frustrating to work technology when they are acting out , you prefer to go to old times .heartless reference was actually funny , i`ve never thought of it that way , i kinda enjoy sarcastic comments .
– when a man uses a woman as a sexual object, he discards the object when he is done with it… much like the discarding of a paper plate after eating from it. If he has options (a stack of new paper plates), he wants the next meal on a new plate. women for men like him are for ego boost and feeling ok about themselves temporally and i believe when they discard women in very bad way is more satisfying than just ghosting or however a decent human does when they want to leave someone behind , i
m not saying ghosting is fine but in my opinion is much better that what this guy did in the condition i was . i
m sure he could be even more brutal and he would enjoy it more but he knew i would kick his a$$, litterally , lol . after all i believe he expected me to come back and beg him to have sex with me . he was that delusional .that’s what I thought when I first read the story: I was impressed by your strength and spunk thank you very much Anita , but i regret i didn`t see his face in that moment , lol
he cared about his patients only because the upper year resident or a senior doctor was supervising overwise not so much , i had a feeling he was numbing himself to not feel pain and i saw this kind of cope mechanisms in my stepmom too .
she expresses her anger at others, then feeling temporarily relieved of her anger, she is ready to resume the relationship on good terms.. until the next time when her jealousy and anger build up. i
m impressed by your ability to see through her , i don
t remeber to describe her jealous , maybe i did , but its interesting you mentioned that . i thing the most jealous person i
ve ever met was her , she was pathologically jealous , even in smallest thing like buying a hair clip or painting her fingers in exact color that i did , i couldnt believe it first and i was telling myself i
m imagining it but she was so obvious and that was so annoying as you can imagine , unfortunately because alot of people couldnt believe it , i was accused of making up stuff just because she was my step mom . i saw alot of weird stuff about her , she is a retired teacher and she was friends with a former student , apart from age gap they had and i was wondering what they have in common ?the student had a very aggressive way about her and the weirdest thing was they talked no stop by phone i mean maybe at least 10 minutes each hour , doesn
t it look strange ? people usually dont talk even with their parents or siblings during the day . my step mom was nice to my face but once i overheard a conversation she had with this girl about me , it was the sickest thing i
ve ever heard , they were twisting every word i said and turned it to something that only sick people could think of plus mocking me . that was it for me , in that moment i was enlightened , i realized i shouldn`t talk to her about anything important to me , not that i was talking secret to her but i realized she gives very bad meaning in trivial stuff i say , it was disgustingit is possible when they use their money to hurt more people. i don
t know about heartless heart doctor , but my step mom definitely used it to hurt me , she believes she has a lot of money and i
m poor , i think that makes her feel good about herself , i don`t care about her having money , she is projecting her own insecurities on me, she bragged a lot about her money and she thinks that makes me feel bad , so pathetic .a good man/ good people use their power (popularity and fame, in this case) to help and benefit others. I sure hope that Amir Nasr Azadani is or will be okay soon! i certainly hope so , i hope they don`t use him as an example to silent others , your last paragraph is true but again alot more people would be killed and it would be a tragedy for their family if nothing changes after all .
farnazParticipantdear Anita
thank you for your warm words and sorry for the frustrating experience ,me too hoping for a better technical experience , today
can`t wait to hear from you soon
farnaz
December 15, 2022 at 10:15 am in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #411864farnazParticipantdear Anita
Reading your last message made me smile for the first time in a few days (as far as I remember now). It makes me feel good to think of you as my friend. i
m so glad to hear that , your note made me smile too . honestly it was my first time to join a forum regarding my experiences and i wasn
t so hopeful that i could find someone who understands me like you , i always enjoy your comments and it makes me feel good to think of you as my friend too , xoxounfortunately , technology let me down today , i wrote a reply at 10 o clock am and now i was checking again to see your reply , i found out the one i wrote wasn
t sent . i also tried to install some programs in my laptop, again with no success. any way i
m gonna write it again .first the heart doctor guy whom you called heartless heart doctor , lol . very well put , i agree with you, he was so tired and overwhelmed with problems to care about anything but his own benefits . i don
t condemn it though , i think his mindset of playing victim and thinking the world owe them an easy pass won
t work at all . he reminds me of my stepmother , she also had a hard life and had this mentality about people who didn`t as bad people who owe her , the generosity , forgiveness and time . she does lots of unforgivable things to people she knows , the one who had been nice and generous to her and expect them to forgive her after she screw them over . she also ONLY think about herself and considers others specially other women as subhuman .returning to the guy , yes it was a very unfortunate experience with a very bad person at a very bad time . but i
m glad i wasn
t that broken to put up with his demands , after chatting with him i realized he is not the person who i would respect or i would care to lose . im sure he would discard me in much worse way if he got what he wanted and about money and having no character ,well i don
t think having money help this kind of people to be better , it usually makes them worse . if thats even possible . i
m just feel sorry for his patients .about amir nasr azadani , unfortunately , i can
t say if it is his end or not , i certainly hope not . In Iran these days the big football players are very active in encouraging people to protest and they are successful because young population look up to them , i think maybe the regime is trying to scare them by putting Amir in prison and threatening to execute him or they maybe actually execute him to make an example of him so the others wouldn
t talk against the government , nothing is impossible in my country with current government .farnaz
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