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Dear Anita,
Yes, it would be really nice to have all of humanity as supportive friends towards each other. I don’t think there are many other solutions… AI is good and useful but cannot replace us.
<div id=”line_space” dir=”auto”>I don’t know what you do in life but you seem to have a very good understanding of human psyche. I think you are spot on with my friend. She offered me to stay at her house any time and as long as I wanted to. I would never ask for it. If people offer, I accept it, otherwise I find a solution. So one summer I stayed at hers for a month. She said I could help myself with anything in the fridge and in the kitchen. Usually I do the housework when I stay with friends; I clean, do the laundry, iron, cook dinner. One morning I noticed that she had 5 old jars of honey open with one spoon of honey left in each. So instead of opening up a new jar, I just finished the old ones. A few days days later I noticed that my friend was not talking to me, tried to avoid me. I asked her what went wrong- maybe at work or issues with the boyfriend, I thought. It took her 3 days to tell me that she was angry with me because I had finished the honey jars! Obviously, before I left, I bought her 5 jars of special honey coming from all over the world. In my family we open one jar and finish it before opening a new one, so I just wanted to save the brand new honey. It’s a minor issue but proves that you are probably right. Something must have triggered something in her mind. But I still think that with a bit of communication we can easily avoid misunderstandings and solve many problems.</div>
<div id=”line_space” dir=”auto”>I could have easily bought myself a new pot of honey and eat that one if she hadn’t had told me to help myself with anything in the kitchen…. how silly life can be.</div>
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<div id=”line_space” dir=”auto”>still don’t know what to think about all these vanishing. Why people say one thing and do the opposite or do nothing at all… I suppose that I just have to accept it and live with it. Try to grow, as Sheli said so wisely.</div>
<div id=”line_space” dir=”auto”>I am lucky to be surrounded by beautiful nature, it really helps me to go for long walks and be thankful for small things like a fresh breeze, a butterfly, cute flowers, the sound of the rain on my roof.</div>
<div dir=”auto”>Thanks for your helpful support.</div>
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</div>EvFranParticipantDear Freesia,
Thank you so much for your answer. It’s interesting to see like this. I have thought of many reasons but not of unluck. Maybe it’s just unluck.
Yes, I travel between Asia and Europe. Now that I lost my partner, I am wondering where to settle, how to set up my business. It feels like a heavy task and I dream of someone with whom I could work as a team. But I sense that it’s not happening and as Sheli said, I have to learn and grow. I have to go through this and find solutions alone. So I will do so but in my brain there’s still the question : why is it happening to me? Why can’t I have that supportive, communicative circle of friends where we all support each other, make each other laugh. I know it may sound childish but it’s the truth.
EvFranParticipantDear Sheli,
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It must be very disappointing to lose a friend if 30 years! I suppose that people and situations change. But we can still go through stuff together and if it doesn’t work out, well, at least it’s clear. But just vanishing is so surreal somehow.
Yes, I am definitely at a crossroad. After my partner’s death my life took a 180 degrees turn in 2 minutes. We were a kind of nomadic people, so we don’t have a house or a car. He did art and I do creative work as well. I understand that this kind of lifestyle is not everybody’s cup of tea.
I do know many people of course, I try to socialise as much as I can. I am outgoing and very interested in people. It’s always been like this. It’s hard for me to ignore people. I have many ideas energy, maybe that’s the problem. It might be overwhelming for certain. I don’t know. I just try not to expect too much and get too disappointed.
Thanks so much for your encouragement. It really helps: I will repeat that I have endless possibilities until it becomes my reality.
And yes, I have been reading reactions on this forum for years, that’s why finally i dared to write. I don’t share too much of my thoughts with people but I really need a bit of help to sort out this ‘vanishing thing’.
EvFranParticipantDear Anita,
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Thank you so much for your prompt answer.</p>
Yes, I was in shock when I got the call that my partner passed away just a few hours after we had talk. I was alone without any support. I seemed help online at a widows association. They write back immediately and it helped to realize that I was not alone with such a situation. I am still in denial I think but try to carry on with life and organize it as good as I can.1) I see, the pandemic must have changed a lot in people’s behavior. I am sure that you are right. We were stuck in a tropical country with my partner during covid, we could go out into nature, so maybe it was less traumatic for us. But I can imagine what a lockdown means in an appartment.
Nevertheless, there friends vanished years before the pandemic. One is back but writes less often than used to and never suggests that we skype. Whereas before she had often initiated a skype session.
The other friend used to say how much she loved me, I could stay at her’s any time I was in town, we could set up our business together, she admires me. And one day, out of the blue, she wrote to me that I could remove my stuff from her flat. Once I was in town, we agreed I would pick up. She put out everything to the street in front of the house, she didn’t say hi, didn’t even open the door. It happened 6 years ago and I am still wondering why. I found it very rude and unbelievable. Why do you say you love a person and then you do this? I am confused. If I love someone and I have a problem, I try to talk about it and find a solution…. I would never do this to a foreign person.
2) Yes, you are so right. We are less connected emotionally since we have technology. Yes, I see people sitting next to each other and text. I see people reading their phone during a discussion. Surrealist. I am 56, not 80. Just to make it clear that I am aware of technology as well but I don’t check my phone when i am with someone.
I feel a bit alien, to tell you the truth. I try to have understanding of others but I still think that we all have a minute to send a text from time to time. I don’t ask for hours of conversations, just a message from time to time to check in. But if I don’t text, nobody does.
Thank you for your time and the useful comments, Anita. It creates a bit of clarity in my head and let me see things under a different angle. Which is very helpful.
February 4, 2023 at 7:06 am in reply to: Vent session: when your friends don’t care about you as much as you do them #414945EvFranParticipantThanks for your prompt answer, Anita. I have just posted my question again in All forums.
February 4, 2023 at 6:07 am in reply to: Vent session: when your friends don’t care about you as much as you do them #414939EvFranParticipantHi everyone, I have a similar issue and don’t know what to do. People simply disappear from my life, without any apparent reason. I travel a lot, so I never stay long at one place, but I check on everybody, ask how they are, what’s going on in there lifes. I am genuinely interested in them and want to maintain the contact. Often it takes weeks until I get an answer. Last time I asked a very old friend who hadn’t written for a year -in spite of the fact that I lost my partner in a sudden accident and I was alone in abroad in COVID lockdown – and answered my messages with long delays, if he was ok. He said yes, he just doesn’t have anything to say, he works and it’s winter and I travel. nothing to say, nothing to ask about my life either. but it doesn’t mean that we cut ties. I am so confused and shocked because it has been happening for years.even very close friends stopped writing back without any explanation.i was asking them what went wrong, did I say or do something but no answer.i’ve been also experiencing lately that people promise things and don’t follow up on their promises.for me it’s an absolute non respect and I have difficulties to understand why they say something if they cannot do it.so I am just wondering what I am doing wrong, why people cannot connect, why they never ask how I am doing. What can I do? I really appreciate them and for me the physical distance doesn’t mean that I cannot connect with them. It’s so easy with Skype, mail etc. But more tools we have, people seem to communicate less…?? Thanks for your thoughts about it or your advice on how to treat this painful situation.
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