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I often get criticized about that unfortunately and as I know myself better than anyone else I am either extremely protectful for myself in a way that after such event in my life (this is not the only kid of strange relationship I have been mistreated) I seem to think that for everything bad that happened in my life I am the reason and therefore I should never be attached or close to anyone, I tend to isolate and then when i recover on my own I get my overly protective side and this is the time I use my power to isolate myself from even a small chances to communicate and be close to certain people and people themselves. My sister is always saing that I am really protective, don’t share and scare people away from me which is makes me sad. But when I try to share i got the feeling that nobody wants to listen or help.
And the way I am really protective( but go home and cry after I push people away with that trait of mine) makes the one that am I protecting myself from hit even harder and harder. This is what happened in my previous relationships and I spend time overthing and crying on my own, praying that I will never let things go this way maybe that is why I am this way now and play like the lamb role in the story letting people do whatever they want.
NoneParticipantI have everything-messages( some of which are scandalous and made me cry) and calls to prove my point and the torture he has put me through. She, his girlfriend know me in a way he was telling her that he was meeting me when he tought she was cheeting on him and wanted to make her jealous probably- that’s why he told her about me. Yes, I cought myself acting like I have no power over my life and that is maybe the thing that I have most in me- I never took things in my life in my hands as since I was little somebody was always messing with my troubles and played the helper.
Now that I write my these things here I realize in what trouble I got in, yet everyone is responsible for their own deeds and that’s what terrifies me most when I come to think of the things I was part of.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 12 months ago by None.
NoneParticipantHe knows due to my money issue and my try to get some of the finance I gave so that I could get an adequate treatment for me and when it came time to that I foolishly though that i get the money back for the special need I was in and told him like a fool that I need them for that and not for fear that I won’t get them back. And yes, I though that somehow this will stop him and repell him so that he won’t make me such offers, but I was wrong.
I will try to talk to her when I am ready for that, yet I still want to get out of the triangle between him, his girlfriend and me. That;s mostly why I am here and why I am looking for a piece of advice. Not to mention that she ( who doesn’t even know me and never met me) has told nasty things about me. I bear not hate for her though as she is being lied to as I was. And if she get any chance to see the messages he sent me before and after being with her she will see his true colors rather than thinking that I am the one that messes their things up.
I will consider this and try to help myself by staying positive. As far as not talking to him and not paying enough attention to him I already act like I don’t hear and see him so that he could stop, yet that strategy is not working the way I want to. But let’s see how he will act after the holidays and I pray he let me go.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 12 months ago by None.
NoneParticipantTo anita:
Yeah, that is the mistreating guy I talked about in my first topic and no, I have never been in a ralationship with a sexual activity. He constatly want to sleep with him when his girlfriend is away , yet I have always said no to him. I now have problems with my ovaries and even that cannot stop him from his desires. And when I wanted my moeny back for visiting a doctor( as I am a uni student I am not that rich) he says that he has no money, yet he gets himself high with drugs and even wanted me to use drugs so that I can be more vulnerable and cannot fight him to do whatever he wants if we are together. recently he even mocked me about not being able to have kids due to my health problems- can you believe that…
Now, he will probably continue to put me down as we are studying in the same uni. I feel that his firlfriend at least needs to know what he is doing to her. I mean, I was stupid and hopeless, but does that mean I should stay silent and let him further his cruel deeds. And as my closest friend I will just hope to get the guts and tell her what kind of man he is and hope she will listen to me and he will do her no harm.
To DaisyBuchanan:
Thanks for the support. I really appreciate that and it’s crazy how stranger that I have never seen in my life can help me more than someone from my relatives. I am trying and will to my best to get him out of my life and hope that he won’t bother me anymore. When it comes to me best friend and the fact she is involved as well I think I have to share that this guy tried to create and image of her her based on his opinion and it was awful. We did a project together – my bestie, him, me and he tried to create fuss between us so that he can finally be the one that worked harder than anyone when he only worked hard to make us fight each other while he stays silent and plays the good and caring guy.
I am still wondering what to do with that girl, his girlfriend and have in mind that when they had fight and he though she was cheating on him his desire for meating me started and he was furious to spend time with me only then. That was the moment I told him he has a girlfriend and he is not to mess with me and I was telling that a hundred times and so manu times I begged him to let me go and not bother me anymore.
Anyway, thanks for the support to both of you that are dealing with my problems. REALLY BIG THANKS!
NoneParticipantTo H8full8:
I have got my eye on that friends my friend is talking about and I see that somehow he/she is right, yet how do i get to know my friend’s friends that are being talked bad about. I always , always try to get in the shoes of the others while rarely do they try to do this for me. Maybe that is my mistake or maybe it is not. Not everything is an exact science like anita said. If ti was I would not have been there for help now. If in the science there is formula for finding the leghth of a certain path that somebody is going to take in life there is no such things. For sure, we make our own decisions which paths we will follow, yet nobody can know where it will take them and how much time,efforts they will need and thhey don’t know the leght of those paths that are taking. That is why my evaluations about my friends can be completely wrong or absolutely right, yet I cannot know for sure.
NoneParticipantI came to the same conclusion that you arrived above- that my friend will talk negatively about me when with others. The obeying situation is little confusing, I must agree. To make things clear ot at least try my friend has friends that I don’t apporve of and he/she is still with them. He/she talks bad about them too but only in my presence , not theirs. We had an agreement which was – my friend spending some time with that company for some time and in this time I cannot contact him because of them and my friend told me not to. Anyway, something happened and for God only knows why my friend tried to contact me during the time with his/ her friends I don’t approve of and it happened that way deactivated my account via which my friend was seeking/ anyway, he/she had other social account to reach me/me and now she/he will gnorant just like my family and won’t be like she/he was before. So I think I got something wrong and my friedn is not willing to share what was it and that really can get me angry and it si not like I did not try to conntact him/her after that time.
Given my family convesrastions situation you can understand how much i need a friend like the one I descpribed my friedns was before these events. And now there is something wrong and I asm thinking that the kind and sweet nature of my friend was only a facade for God know what. But the other thing is- i feel that I cannot communicate with my friedns while I am with my friend just because he/she is jealous, yet he/she can do whatever he/she wants and the blame will be in me again.
NoneParticipantI forgot to end the situation- everything that has been between me and my friend ends when I don’t call and write to him/her cuz he/she has given me the order not to when he/she is with that friends I can’t stand. So I got to obey and finally that friend of mine is durious and now won’t even wanna talk with me, listen or see me when I call or write. So I got the orders and I followed them strictly and now I am guilty again and I don’t even know why cuz my friend will never probably share what has happened and will lie and deceive me anytime possible. So shall I try to talk when my friend doesn\t want to or shall I walk out of his/her life and go on…?!?
NoneParticipantTo anita:
How about a friend that I have been close with and we share all kind of stuff- personal thoughts and attitude towars the others that we both know, for instance. How do I evaluate such close peorson to me when he/she is acting like the friends everybody dreams of, cares for you, wants to be wth you and listen to you and in the same time talks bad about people that he/she previously has known and is not with them anymore (it could have been my friend’s friend that deserves it how could I have known), acts kindly to my other friends , yet when we that special friend of mine is with me talks bad about them again. Moreover, he/she wants to talk with me everyday and por conversations could last forever and it feel great, but when it comes to him/her meeting friends that I won’t like he/she will expect me to call him/her so that he/she could have the reson to het rid of that friends and then come to me, yet he/she won’t do that unless there is a certainty that I for sure will be with himher when he needs me. It sound kin of strange put in such ways and I am little confused how to describe it but if you don’t get it I will try to be more precise.
NoneParticipantTo H8full8:
I am strong to talk about the dilemma only when I share it with strangers otherwise I will never have that coversation with my family or friends cuz either they are chnaging the topic when I got the courage to lead that converstation or they just are not listening to me and when I get insistent they start a fight or leave the room.
Thanks for the article it was useful and goes hand in hand with Daniel Coleman’s book “Emotional intelligence” that I am reading right now. I hope it helps me and I follow the things I learnt from bothe the article and the book in life without destroying everything that i got- believe me I am really good at that and I am a person with little luck.
NoneParticipantTo anita:
How about the change of the person you once knew(for instance, a friend of mine) is probably because of my behaviour towards him/her. How about he/she expected something that I could not give , let’s say here he/she wanted understanding that I could not provide him/her during a period he/she needed it most. Your written words are like the words dwelling in my mind, yet there are always so many sides of the story and unfortunatelly not everyone is ready to step out of their shoes and get in the other person’s shoes. This is why every time I think of such things I sink in sorrow more and more.
NoneParticipantTo anita:
I tried doing the evaluating stuff but human behaviour and relationships are not like science they change and sometimes you don’t know where did it come from. A person can act like the sweetest living creature in the begining and the greatest villain in the end. That is why I am trapped here- I cannot trust people’s intentions cuz there is no way I get to know them for real and I end up wanting to spend time with someone and because I don’t trust the “outside” peopel I turn to my family which is ignorant to my pain… It’s really complicated :X
To H8full8:
I am not pretty sure to whom you are sending the message- to me or to the guy above.
NoneParticipantTo anita:
How after such experiences in life a person can recognize the ones that are using people and the ones that have true intentions without getting “scratched”. How many times does a person have to be mistreated and lied to so that they can find happiness and is ti the bad ones in our lives that are not letting the good ones to be with us?
To the words you said about the worthiness- i had times that i did tiny things that I loved and I was really good at doing them. However, everybody around me was jealous that I can can things done at least once and it come down to them trying to stay away from me… how to I preoceed inn such situations without coming to them and begging to be with you…or either standing alone?
NoneParticipantTo VJ:
Yes, I am at the point of asking a lot of questions but that does not mean I don’t have numerous answers(most of them controversial-which is not helping me at all) in my head. I searched through the resource you send above and I found some usefull stuff and others’ experiences which makes me look to my problem as a minor one compared to others’. But I know that when it comes to having a awful things happening in your life it seems that they can prolong so much that the person experiencing it will start to think that it will last forever and to make things worse they will remind the good times that happened before and then it really gets tough.
I get that no one cannot achieve any progress if you sit there and murmur about the bad in life and they should be getting down to working out their problems. Maybe I just need a stronger push in my life so that I can start doing that… maybe te things that happen to me are for a reson and every time I think of that I get scared of myself and ask myself “am I really that bad person so that bad things happen to me”.
I understand and appreciate my time here and having this conversation with you as I don’t share a lot of things in my life because of the fear that people will think I am either crazy or making things up just for some time to get “famous”(and I don’t undesrand what kind of person will think that others want the attention of their close ones and friends by doing this). That is why I am here and I prefer to stay anonymous and share things with people I have never known so that I can hear their clear point of view and start looking things through clear glassess let’s say(I know it sound strange). What is more, I found this site googling for ways to stay positive and positive thinking therapy and I will get stuck on every single chance to make my problems not problems anymore, yet now I just feel like I am standing at the bottom of a trap and can’t see the light out there.
NoneParticipantThe thing is when I am away from her for quite a time everything is fine, but then with or without her people start playing with me again. I could just spend less time home or stay where I live now without my parents, yet I can’t thing of a way of neglecting some 20 years of my life and in some point it;s like part of me wants to be fooled and mistreated and there is always somebody by my side suitable for that job- maybe I got a talent for that, I don’t know. I can’t even explain to myself why I tend to believe that poeple have some good seeds in them and always give chance to them and they always prove me wrong. I could move out , I could see her or talk less with her seeking understanding and love somewhere else, but why instead of those good seeds I am expecting to nourish in people there come only the bad ones.
NoneParticipantTo anita again”:
I start to believe that if I got the background in which I was treated this way and I tolerated it I will keep my mouth shut and bite my tongue if others are doing the same to me because as you said your parents are the ones you look up to. I got that feeling that I am in a vicious cycle of people mistreating me and I will never get out of it because whenever someone makes something nice for me I feel strange and I think they are setting things up just for their favour later- which happened with that boy I have already wrtitten for and don’t know how to treat him anymore cuz I will feel bad if I make him understand what a piece of crap he made me feel and if I do him good he will continue making fun of me in the worst way ever and only use me as I let him do that.
So that is where I am- giving my back to my background concrete wall that I can hardly destroy and in front of the same wall of my future as a naive fool whose voice I can’t just stop raising in me.
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