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    English Rose
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    Hi
    I’ve just seen this post and wanted to add something interesting I read the other day. The treatment of depression must include work on the body. The was from a book called Yoga for Depression. I also find that when I am feeling at my worst, sitting for meditation makes it worse. Doing something more physical gets the energy moving. Our minds sink into a place of inactivity, dullness and inertia where the energy becomes stagnant. Doing something physical like yoga, exercise, going for a walk, massage, can start to move the energy again. In some meditative disciplines it teaches that we need energy before we can successfully work with the mind. Now I have met plenty of people where this isn’t the case, but for some of us that suffer with depression, I really believe that body work is essential.
    One thing I know for sure is that to be gentle and to listen to ourselves when we are feeling at our lowest is crucial. Take it one step at a time, day by day, sometimes hour by hour and know that it will pass.
    Much love to you on your journey.
    x

    #41328
    English Rose
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    Hey Caitlyn
    Meditation is probably the best way to work with negative thoughts. Negative thoughts are a result of so many different things in our lives. Quite often a lot of them aren’t even ours, we are conditioned by the media, advertising, parents, friends etc. We usually don’t really know which thoughts are ours and which aren’t. Also a negative state of mind can be increased by cultivating a lifestyle were we are exposed to negative things e.g. Violent movies, too much news, gossip etc. Like it or not, all these things will have an effect on the subconcious mind to the point were we walk around in a sort of negative haze.
    The key is to start to work with our thoughts and become aware of them. Sitting in meditation we can begin with practice to observe the rise and fall of all our thoughts. How we get addicted to ruminating, making up stories and fantasies, imagining ‘worst case senarios’, making up conversations in our heads with people of things we wished we’d said, dwelling on the past and sitting in that pit of misery of things that have happened, remembering how we felt, worry about what will happen if we do’t get grip, becomes obsessed if someone doesn’t tell us the whole truth about something.
    The difficult truth to hear Caitlyn is that you can’t change someone, you can only change yourself and your approach to them. If your boyfriend wants to continue to lie to you about his life, then that is his path and his journey. You have to decide whether that works for you or not. I know that is tricky to hear, but the only thing you can do is to work on yourself. When you start to live in a place of truth, maybe it will rub off on the people around you, or maybe you will decide that you want to be around more truthful people. The inquiry approach is also good. Also yourself honest questions…….if he did tell you the truth about something and you didn’t like the truth, how would you react? Sometimes when we react in a less that balanced way about the truth of a partner, that partner can ‘learn’ not to offer up truth in the future. I’m not saying that is right, but he’s how we protect ourselves.
    If you want to let go of the past, then work with being in the present. Sitting in meditation you constantly bring your mind back to the present, back, to the present. We realise that it’s nothing but wasted energy living in the past or the future. Be gentle with the process, if you find yourself getting caught up in the past simply ask yourself the following questions ‘where are you?’ ‘what are you doing?’ ‘what are you feeling right now?’. By dropping into physical sensations in the body, we become present.
    I’m also wondering around forgiveness. Can you work with forgiveness around him lying to you? Of course that’s a call you would need to make, but letting go also has to include forgiveness and making peace with whatever happened.
    The key thing is Caitlyn, is that none of this is easy. There is no quick fix for working with the mind, it takes work, constant daily work and committment to yourself. But it is the greatest gift you can give yourself. Being gentle and compassionate with yourself, not judging or criticising when you aren’t able to stay present, just watching it all unfold like a movie on a screen.
    I wish you the very best with strength and love on your journey.
    x

    #41327
    English Rose
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    Hey Phoolinlove,
    From my own experience, sometimes we try to do the right thing, the kind and loving thing, we try to forgive before we’ve even looked at our own pain. We do this, especially if we’re on a spiritual path of any description, but in doing so we can so often ignore our own pain. I did this myself. I tried to be all forgiving and understand that he was just suffering too, but deep down I was angry, betrayed and deeply hurt. My feeling on this is that we have to learn to honour the process that comes along with be hurt, betrayed and loosing people. It’s about being ‘with’ those feelings, not trying to transcend or be positive in the face of heartache. When you grieve, allow your heart to break, drop into your body and feeling the physical pain. Don’t worry about trying to heal, fix or move forward, or worry about what she is doing. She has made her karma, now she has to deal with it. Putting your energy into her and the whys and hows of what she did, means less of your precious energy is going into you. I know it’s difficult, trust me I know, but you have to look after yourself now and you will be ok. You will be ok. If you can learn to be with the impermenence of this situation then you will learn from it and it will become one of your greatest teachers. If you feel angry, feel angry, if you feel negative feel negative, but beware of the stories you attach. It’s our stories that kill us. Just feel it, no stories, just presence, just physically dropping into the immediate nature of your storm and ride it through. Even if that means you cry on the bathroom floor for hours until your eyes are puffy as hell and you can’t breath through your nose, then that’s what you need to so. One thing I know is that pushing away how we feel, never works. What we resist, persists. Embrace it. Honour it. Learn from it and in time you will grow stronger. In time you will think of the situation less and less, until it becomes something that pops into your mind every now and again. You are stronger than you ever believe possible and that strength is found in our vulnerability and presence.
    Maybe you find your own strength and ride the storm with courage and love.
    x

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