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Hi Tee.
Well Iām in Canada so we always have a white Christmas:). Yeah martial arts does help both physically and mentally. Itās something Iāve done since I was 6 years old and always loved it. I work mostly from home and do have quite a bit of spare time on the weekends, especially during the winter so I will be looking for something to pass the time. When I feel down and out lately for the past year Iāve been resorting to unhealthy habits that I want to change. I still feel sad and I know grief has no timeline but itās hard as time seems to standstill at times. Anyway, happy new year and perhaps we can keep chatting in 2023!
Dan
DanParticipantHi Tee.
Merry Christmas to you as well. Ā Iām obviously a bit sad at this time, trying to cope with things. I do have family around and spent time with them. Ā I wonāt lie itās been rough even some suicidal thoughts but nothing major and I did tell my mom about that. Those thoughts came about a week and a half ago and since then Iāve been feeling a bit better. Iām trying to stay sober as Iāve been resorting to drinking and playing poker a lot, keeps me distracted and takes the pain away temporarily but ultimately as we all know I feel like shit afterwards. Iām trying to get back into martial arts and find a little part time job on the weekends to keep myself busy. I hope you had a nice Christmas:). Thanks for checking in.Dan
DanParticipantMaybe I should ask her to meet in person so that I can get some closure. Although I know that I would probably lose my composure if I saw her.
DanParticipantyeah I know. It hasnāt been fair for me but thereās nothing I can do. After she texted that she was filing, I havenāt responded. Iām not sure if I should or if I just stay silent. Ā Maybe silence speaks more volumes. I have a hard time getting angry, I donāt really ever get angry, I usually get sad and upset at myself. I donāt think getting angry helps anyone or anything.
DanParticipantNew development. I went to the pharmacy today and they said I had been taken off my wifeās insurance so I texted her and asked if she had taken me off. She said that she had back in September. My medication is expensive so I asked if she could possibly keep it the same. I said that because weāre technically married that by law itās ok. And she said ābut weāre notā. She is then texted āthis is a good opportunity to tell you that Iām filing for divorce in January and that she didnāt want it to be a surpriseā. I lost it. I started bawling. I guess I should have expected this. She was waiting for the year to pass to file since she had no grounds before this. Itās the finality of the word that makes it so hard. I know itās just a piece of paper but I didnāt expect it. It was sudden. Iām upset, devastated, sad.
DanParticipanti really want to text her and just ask why she wonāt talk to me. Like Iām looking for a reason, some kind of explanation that might give me some closure. Just ask her why. I often interpret it like itās something I did wrong, however I donāt think this is the case. I donāt know, what do you think? Ā I know itās my lack of self love etc that contributes to this, but do you think itās a good idea to just ask that question? Ā Thanks.
DanParticipantYou are right with everything you say. I canāt put my happiness on her and thatās not fair to her and itās not helping me. I get lonely and then yes I do only remember the good times, mainly because there werenāt a lot of bad times. The good moments I believe outweighed the bad ones. But I canāt do anything about it. Iām still obviously very much in love and itās a hard pill to swallow. Her last texts the other day were all business like and kind of impersonal. I guess I just donāt get how we can go from being best friends to this. When we reunited earlier this year she said that Iām her best friend. And now itās like she wants nothing to do with me and again thatās hard to take. Iām trying to tell myself that if itās meant to be it will be, that the universe doesnāt make mistakes. How do you feel about that?
DanParticipantI hope youāre feeling better. Lots of fluids helps.
I do have a couple of good friends but itās still tough. I wrote a letter out today to her (sappy stuff) but I didnāt send it. I wanted to send it for Christmas but Iām not sure if thatās a good idea. Maybe it would cause me more torment than anything. Basically just saying that I love and miss her (Iām a hopeless romantic) and acknowledging some of my faults and just wishing her and the kids a merry Christmas. I want to send it but again it may not be a good idea.
I have some family and friends. I didnāt think it would be this hard but this is the first holiday season that Iām alone in a while. Thank you for your reply it means a lot.
DanParticipantHow are you? About a month since I posted here. Nothing really has changed. Iām still sad about the whole thing and depressed most days. I know things take time to heal but itās still hard. Just thought Iād say hello and reach out to you since you have some good words. Hope all is well.
DanParticipantI tend to log on here when Iām having a down day. Today is one of those days. But reading your last post literally brought tears to my eyes. In fact they are running down my cheeks right now. I want to thank you for your empathy and understanding. Itās been a tough go and Iāve always been hard on myself. A lot of negative self talk. I know I was a good husband and step father and I guess thatās whatās been hard about all this. My wife and I havenāt spoke at all for about a month now. It was my birthday last week and there was no happy birthday text which kinda hurt. But our anniversary was the day before my birthday so a lot of feelings going on. Maybe it would be too hard for either of us to be in contact with one another, at least thatās what I tell myself as to why she stopped all communication. I donāt know. Itās just hard.
DanParticipant@Anita.
I know she has guilt she told me that. However, I also know that she still loves me as she told me that as well. Youāre right, she doesnāt want to have communication with me right now. I honestly think it would be too hard for the both of us if we saw or even communicated with eachother from time to time. I would ask the question that you posed but we arenāt speaking however at some point we will and itās a good question to ask, although I think I know the answer.I think youāve really hit the nail on the head as far as her having almost two different lives, the fun loving and the giver people pleaser. Her boundaries with her kids were almost non existent and I know sheās just doing the best she can having been a single mom before meeting me. Iām really trying to see any positives throughout this whole thing. I mean perhaps had we not separated we may have started resenting one another. Things may have become bad. Thereās no way to know this but things happen for a reason. I know she has a lot of responsibility and Iām hoping that perhaps at some point down the road we may reunite. Ā Who knows? I have a lot of things on my side that I can improve and I think before I ever get back into a relationship I want to feel better in my own skin.
DanParticipantI wish I could pm you to talk more openly but yes I think those reasons make a lot of sense. She had said a few times prior to the separation that she thought the kids were too young and I agree that we moved quickly into everything. I wish now we hadnāt moved so quickly. My gut tells me that itās not because she doesnāt love me anymore and thatās not me in denial, itās something I as and sure you know that you can sense.
When I asked for a mini vacation it was to have just a small honeymoon which we didnāt really have so the idea was to go on the weekends when the kids were away. And I look back now and see that maybe I should have suggested bringing the kids. I know kids can sense these things and although it wasnāt my intent at all to make them feel excluded, I can see how that may have happened. I feel terrible for that. Ā And when I look back while we were seeing one another after the separation, she told me that the kids came back home crying because they knew I was over. She told them that she was allowed to see me while they were away but maybe it was just too much. Ā I feel so bad as I love the kids, but Iām not their dad and I can see how negative thoughts or beliefs can arise. Thank you Tee for your insight. It does help me to try and understand things a bit better.I get really down on myself thinking what more could have I done? Ā Iām stuck ruminating a lot wishing things werenāt the way they are. Iām really trying to move on and let the universe play out as it will but itās still very hard. And our anniversary is in a couple of days too š
DanParticipant@ Anita. @Tee
Thank you. Sorry I was away for a bit and just logged on. I will be talking about things with my therapist.
What Iām having problems with now is feeling a lot of loneliness. I miss my friend (my wife) and the way things happened Iām having trouble understanding. What I mean is that we were seeing one another after the separation for a while and things were going well but then she just stopped. So I havenāt gotten any closure at all and I feel like I did something wrong but I know I didnāt but thatās where my mind goes.
I know she has a ton of responsibility and probably doesnāt have time for me and I should know that by now but itās hard to accept. We were supposed to go to a concert in November as I had bought tickets prior to Covid and when we were together back in May she asked if I still wanted to go. Then a few weeks ago (the last time we spoke) I asked if she still wanted to go and she said she didnāt think it was a good idea. That sort of broke my heart all over again. Ā Iām just struggling with everything that happened
DanParticipantI donāt know why I didnāt say anything earlier. Maybe I felt shame or maybe I didnāt think it was a big deal. Maybe I thought that because of the times when it happened on more than one occasion that I was very young and so was he. I was probably 4 or 5 and he was 10 or 11. To be honest I canāt even remember how old I was. The one time it happened when I was older (maybe 8 or 9) is the time I vividly remember. Maybe I wanted to protect him. Or maybe I was just embarrassed.
As for the feeling I had around my wife. I can say that she was a huge part of my happiness. Ā Whether that stems from childhood trauma I cannot say. Itās possible though. She did make me feel very valued and appreciated and itās feelings I had never had before with someone. I can say that she was my first love. And when she was ignoring or rejecting me Iām sure thereās a part of it that felt a bit like childhood. I have other things that happened as well when I was a kid that affected me. I will tell you about that in another post. I feel very broken at the moment and do not want to feel this way. There are so many things that I know I need to address and donāt know where to start.
DanParticipantMy parents didnāt know about it and I didnāt tell my family until I was 23 years old. Ā I will be discussing this with a therapist as well. When I did open up and say something I believe there was some shock. We havenāt spoke much about it since then. Although I have brought it up on occasion when I was drunk. Itās definitely something I need to talk about as I feel the hurt and pain a lot right now given my situation.
I also wonder a lot what my wife is up to. I want to text her but I know thatās not a good idea at the moment. When Iām down on myself I wonder if sheās met someone else although given how things happened and what she has going on in her life I donāt think she is. Ā I know thatās an insecurity on my end but it still crosses my mind from time to time. Ā Anyhow, I pretty depressed and down these past few days. Thanks for listening.
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