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  • in reply to: Self Trust #295501
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

     

    She too, did whatever she wanted -and she slept fine at night.  Yes Anita, she slept sound like a baby.  It was only in her speech and drama that she was distressed, she did not lose sleep over this, or have true empathy for her daughters.

    Sometimes I feel I lack empathy for my husband too – as I’ve mentioned before — not really processing what he is saying even though I listen, like yesterday.  Feeling detached/disconnected.  But I see now this is the product of hardened SCC and as in our exercise, the roughness and hardness that I attained after all the years of being “pounded” by the mother voice.  Perhaps deep down under there there is true emotion and empathy, hidden under the fog and stone.

    Bit by bit chip away at the untruths until you have nothing but the truth and your anger will diminish.

    Yes, and perhaps anger will diminish and true emotions of CC will emerge…

    You will see how she harmed you with injustice practiced against you 

    I thought of this right before I read this post! How interesting, in sync again.  I was about to say – perhaps my anger is not directed at all at the subway or corporations but at my mother – perhaps it is all anger at my mother and what she “did” to me – and it is manifesting in every other way…what do you think? and so there like you said the focus in many ways is to “undo her damage” – and seek out the truths in reality, and differentiate them from the lies she told me in that context.

    No Anita, she did not allow me to sit at all – ever.  Never.

    I was never able to, and never have, sat in peace. Ever. 

    in reply to: Self Trust #295479
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

    Not to take away from our exercise, but here is something else that came to mind after I wrote:

    I have said many if not all of the above to my husband, most of which also last night – his response.

    Sure all of that maybe true, but you can’t hold onto it – you can’t only look at the negative and harp on it.  You don’t see the positive – you are bogged down by all that negative and all those grievances. Sometimes you have to accept and move forward, and no life isn’t fair – can’t only look at the negative – you become blinded by it…but there is so much good in your life, and you can’t see it or focus on it.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295469
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Okay here goes, I have my eyes closed to better access and get into the situation

    god, this is annoying, some people just act however they want adn theyre fine, and they always go to sleep at night – and me, i get so worried and stressed.

    and what kind of world is this, where people treat each other like garbage?!! where I ask a young man kindly to allow an elderly lady to sit in his spot on the subway, advocating the elderly lady who looked at me, and he is angered and inflamed and pretty much curses us off.  what kind of world do we live in, so inhumane. i don’t want to live in a world like this.

    and gosh, we as doctors, who do our jobs as public servants, are treated with no respect, it isnt about money and power – its that corporations treat us like cogs in a wheel – churn churn churn they say.  here these big finance execs are getting company cars and dinner and showered with compliments and bonuses, and as a physician to get a cup of coffee – well even thats a lot to ask for.  i know its especially bad in nyc, the environment for physicians, and the culture, cut throat.

    but gosh after all this training why should we be treated so poorly – it is unfair.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295465
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

    Good question.  The friends I mentioned are not frenzied like me, their personal backgrounds and way of coping/dealing with stress is entirely different from I.  Not to say that they are not stressed or frenzied in their OWN way, but they aren’t the bird looking right and left like me.

    With friend S, yes she is not frenzied bird at all, entirely opposite, and I do get annoyed with her lack of depth sometimes.

    Most importantly – my husband:

    I’m not sure… I don’t get annoyed AT my husband Anita as much as it is that I am annoyed in general and I project ONTO him. Its more that I carry over this sentiment – deep bitterness, negativity, anger – onto him, but not because of him.

    Lets say someone at work – lets pretend that rude lady – said a comment before I left work  Well I often will, without realizing, not let that go – so that frustration and annoyance and anger will then spill over to who: the innocent bystander victim – my dear husband.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295453
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

    No, i do not always feel “no bitterness” – so yes I do feel bittnerness at times.

    Sometimes I feel a true closeness, but many times I feel a bitterness – more of an annoyance.

    It does depend on who it is, when I can intellectually connect with someone on the same level, whether it is based on emotional conversation or otherwise.

    But when I feel a disconnect in the sense that the person does not understand a similar: pace of life, stress level, etc – then sometimes I feel annoyed/frustrated and don’t particularly want to converse more.

    Its like this: my friend visiting tomorrow is a physician, who had a baby recently, and works hard to balance social life, family life, and his new child.  he and his wife are similar to my husband and I in that way/mentality. I feel a TRUE closeness to them, like a form of love.

    Versus my friend S, she does not have a busy schedule, often her biggest complaint is that she is bored at work – or that her fiance and her didnt have that many plans over the weekend — entirely opposite of my life.  In these scenarios this person is not so relatable and so I sense a bit of annoyance rising…

    I know I may not be explaining it to well – but I’ll start from here…

    in reply to: Self Trust #295437
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for retelling my post, it too, helped me reprocess it – and read it as an outsider.  You asked what part of your experience is relevant to me – well all of the sentiment, except the part of making friends – as I do make friends – with almost everyone. But what does that matter! with my team mate/the person you have highlighted to me is my team member and the MOST important – I am the true me, the true emotions – and that is exactly what comes out: deep bitterness.

    If not for my mother, for me – oh the injustice of it all! it feels – and feels impossible to look at the good, subconsciously my mind doesnt  go there – it is not trained that way. no it is not – I am used to being this way, angry negative, deeply bitter- I am sure.

    Just like your experience, why not my mother – why not me/perhaps

    in reply to: Self Trust #295429
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Good morning.

    Thank you for the work we have done over the last few weeks.  I notice that when I stepped away, yesterday and the day prior – how difficult this work is.  It is the real work. Diving in. Deep.

    I spoke with my husband yesterday.  I have been concerned about his job, the new one he started this past January since moving back to NYC.  It has a toxic environment, a lack of respect, and long story short — just negative.  I expressed this, and while doing so – got riled up about negativity in general.

    It started a conversation – that although not new – I “heard” for the first time.  In the past I have not been listening, never listening to my husband.  Listening to the mother voice, but not to the real voice/the sound voice outside.  Floating through the world – whether in NYC, Africa, anywhere, doing anything – plugged into the mother voice.

    He expressed that the most difficult thing for him is my attitude.  That work is a toxic environment, and he will get to a solution, but that the most difficult aspect is: how it feels like I can never be happy.  My constant negative comments about everything – and never seeing the glass half full, always finding something to pick at or complain about.  Its the constant negativity that is far more draining than anything to him.

    In addition,

    He spoke about how he feels that my behavior is erratic, and it has been for a long time – but for a few months there over the winter he noticed it got better.  but recently is back to that rollercoaster/up and down.  A week will be calm and good and well balanced, for example a full fridge great with chores etc – normal.  The following week can be a mess, empty fridge, all over the place.

    He didn’t mean this in the sense of housework or cooking/cleaning – but just the indication that there is an imbalance/inconsistency – and as a result, he never knows what to expect.

    He stated he doesn’t know if he is going to come home to angry CC, or overly happy CC. Angry CC or ecstatic CC – living with that unpredictability is exhausting.

    —-

    Now Anita,

    This is not the first time that we have had this conversation – in fact it might be the 5th at least.  But this time I listened.  And you know what – it is hard to listen to, not because the truth hurts – but it feels like this: words but difficult to feel their weight.  Similar to when I used to tell you it was difficult to feel true emotion: sad/joy whatever good or bad – it felt similar.

    For the first time intellectually processing, to a point, the words coming out of his mouth – but still feeling a disconnect/disassociation to the true weight of them.  I have a feeling you know what I mean when you read this.

    Anyway – I want to work on this.  And you know what first comes to mind when I say that out loud to you on paper:

    “I want to work on this not because he told me this, but because I should.”

    I am so quick to react—that I need to do something for me and not for someone else.  So quick to combat.

    I guess I’ve been in war for a long time.

    Anyway, his words are not an opinion alone – they are true Anita.  They are not new news – and they are true.  I have been working so hard on this healing journey, that I sometimes don’t realize how I actually come off to the real world – my husband/not strangers, patients, colleagues, friends.  No, the real stuff – what I come home and talk about, how negativity and anger spews from me.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295267
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Good Morning.  I was hoping to start fresh this morning.  I know yesterday we did discuss a few things, but I feel today – a fresh mind, and clarity.

    I wanted to say to you first and foremost – I appreciate the amount of work and effort you have placed into your healing journey.  It is now, that I am on the path, going left and right, up and down – that I can appreciate another/another’s path.  Yes it is unlike mine in many ways I am sure, but I can see how much dedication you have had to remove your own “mother voice” or version of it.

    I commend you.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295203
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    It doesn’t take much to hurt a child and there is plenty of hurting in almost every home, if not in every single one.

    wow – you are right…yes you are and I see it all around me, but because of the mother voice – I focus more on what everyone does right/ (and what we do wrong based on mother voice).

     

    Thank you for this reminder.

    I will let it savor.

    I want to also ask you something – what I asked my mom:

    Why should we be positive/optimistic?

     

    in reply to: Self Trust #295169
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I also wanted to say something – my mother her entire entire life focused on how other people live their lives.  Lets say S was her friend, this is how it would go:

    Oh look at S, how lucky she is – she doesn’t worry about anything – yet her life worked out so well.

    Why can’t we be like that, all we do is worry!

    look how much we have, and still we are not content and happy, oh what a tragedy, what a shame.

    My sister and I (of course) adopted a lot of this mind set – focus on how others live their life/and as a result put down the way we live our own.  Focus on how their brain works, and as a result put down our own.

    BUT

    A HUGE missing factor is that it was a LIE. S didn’t have the type of life my mother said.  She was just happy and content with what she had.  And if my mother was to all of a sudden go into S’s life for a day, she wouldnt be happy there either.  The issue was within the mindset.  Moreover, her concept of “why can’t we be like that” well mother, WE ( my sister and I) can’t because of you.  Because of your voice, because of your poisoning, because of the maladaptive things you taught us, and the lies.

    So this is my take on people like S, or people at all… I have talked about this sort of thing for years and years with mother and beyond – with my sister – with myself.

    I do agree with you that it is a misunderstanding.  But I also know that most people don’t have the trauma that I have (or you have) and so their brains arent wired the same, perhaps the struggle is not the same.

    It is the difference between a puppy who has been brought home that was kicked around for the first 3 years and now adopted. Versus one who was not.  The puppies both see the world differently, and manifest stress differently.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295165
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I did not mean to !!

    I have had this conversation about S sooooo many times with so many different people throughout life.  So perhaps I feel “immune” to it / it isn’t too important to dissect her as her life is entirely different than mine/ as is her brain.

    Does that makes sense?

    As in, I used to spend endless amount of time worrying and thinking about this sort of thing and how the brains of other people unlike me work, and how they process things.  But I have learned now – that it is useless.  AS it doesn’t lead to anything productive, help me heal/learn, or do much of anything.

    We have to follow our own path, based on our own past, and our own brain chemistry i.e. what works for me, what heals me.  what exercises are appropriate for me.  no use in trying to get on someone else’s path.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295159
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I want to also note, prior to my understanding of the mother voice, I would look at someone like S – and think – wow, that must be nice, how can I be like that.

    I notice, and know now – that my neuropathways are my own, as are hers, as are everyones.

    Mine are influenced, if not very much dictated by the influence of my mother – the mother voice.  As a result there has been a lot of delusion, suffering, fear, and so forth.

    I no longer judge the way my brain words versus others – – but of course I do know that having less emotional intelligence is often a blessing in many ways.  It does not matter, as I am who I am, I can not change it – and instead, I must re-route myself over time, with healing on this path. the path.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295153
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    dear Anita,

    I entirely agree, and you are right about the Teflon.  I think I missed a key point here when explaining S to you.

    She does not suffer every day. She is content, and happy. (and i do love S and am glad for that as she should not suffer)

    I do.

    My life is not inferior – but i do.

    Why? because of trauma – and also because of emotional intelligence, because of awareness, because of drive, because of programming, and yes because of the mother voice.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295141
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Yes, I have a friend named S.

    She is a darling nice girl, sweet kind – not a stressed out person.

    Has always, in an objective sense, had a pretty average life, average education, average job, etc

    nothing too extravagant, and not many issues either.  very content and go with the flow. supportive parents, big family.

    She was single until recently, and now engaged just last week.  She was quite optimistic and positive about dating, even though she was getting “older” which in my culture can cause a lot of stress for many women.  Well needless to say, she met a great guy, and recently engaged, it all worked out  – exactly how she would have always wanted – a dream.

    no anxiety along the way (outside of the typical oh i wonder if i will meet a nice guy) no pressure (worry that shes getting “old” and so has her time passed) nothing.

    In a way, there were many times I envied this ability – but I will say one thing.

    She has ZERO emotional intelligence, I mean zero.  She has no idea what its like to live with fear.  We talked about anxiety once and she said “why would people worry so much, it doesn’t change the outcome.” No understanding that it is something people suffer with, and what it would be like.

    It is easier to walk through the world, with less emotional intelligence – after all, ignorance is bliss.

    in reply to: Self Trust #295129
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Do you mind rephrasing your question?  I don’t think I understand it fully.

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