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Cali ChicaParticipant
Dearest Anita,
I would very much like if you could share those notes, if and when you desire and are able. I admire the perseverance of your therapist in engaging in both couples (newly married) therapy as well as solo – and of course yourself, for persevering through it all.
The proportion example, yes – the anger/hurt is in proportion – what a notable concept…
Cali ChicaParticipantI think it is, in fact I was searching for one earlier today. Here in NYC there are thousands of course, but how many “competent” caring, not just wanting your money? Hmm..hard to find. Especially on a decent schedule.
And it is not that I am “too good” for it – but there are so many incredible bad ones, especially not suitable for individuals who have done so much work like i have (or yourself) that it makes it that much more difficult. often an assistant to the main psychotherapist is seen first. I find that whole process frustrating and it turns me off. But of course finding anyone of value will take time and effort.
So still, it is my job to try – I must. I will. It may be trial and error – but I must.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
yes, you are right.
high price indeed. yet it feels like this:
i paid this high price, of course without choosing, the child comes out loving their mother – as you and i speak about often, the innate state.
I believed my mother far beyond childhood, up until quite recently – as you know – even my first post saying, “toxic but loving parents”
the “but”
the irony! toxic BUT loving, as if!
what does that mean? it means confusion, it means frenzy. someone who knows the truth but can’t accept it, or a truth trying to poke it’s little head, but the conscious squashing it down
you know what else? you have said often, that I must heal in the context of a loving relationship…
Well I feel quite resistant to love, not actively, not consciously – subconsciously
Its like getting fed amazing ice cream daily, but not knowing its value – thinking oh its food.
not having the awareness or insight to appreciate – it doesn’t exist.
if you say to me my husband is kind supportive and loving, i say yes –
but that loving relationship I must be in – to heal
I don’t feel I can appreciate it, or more than the term appreciate it – even begin to gauge what it is
i feel blind to it. blind
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
“life WAS helping her. Everything was her. everything. Even when I thought it wasn’t- it sure was. her”
You know what’s good today Anita. I am so tired, that I am too tired to come from an intellectual state. It reminds me of the concept of how the truth comes out when you hit rock bottom, when you have “nothing” left. Uncovering of sorts. Not that this is “rock bottom” it is simply the twists and turns of the healing journey.
So to elaborate as authentically as I can:
I see me as someone who is strong and capable, as someone who has a good sense of herself. But where did this come from? It is perhaps a lie. See all of life was her. Even when I didn’t think it was her (meaning I was attending to me, myself, my friends, my needs) it wasn’t. It was a lie. See even if I was “attending” to people of my choosing, it was always subconsciously to make her happy. See it was always to make her happy. It was all a lie, that I had any identity or self will – self imposed will – self drive. What is myself anyway?
As a kid I thought, or was told I was defiant and strong willed. It seems doesn’t it – this that I was strong and confident! A person of her own will! But when you ask me what I would be doing if it wasn’t Helping her, appeasing her, my mind is a blank. it occurs to me that this is life. LIFE is her. All her. It is like in Hinduism when they say we reincarnate – so then did I come back as a reincarnation as her crutch…I smirk as this i one of the things she praised teh most! Oh my daughters!! Look at this amazing daughter how Lucky I am to have her, look how much she cares about her mother.
But what is this daughter, who is she? her life has been a lie. CC being so happy and outgoing. lie. CC being so friendly and engaging. lie
All she did was for her mother, to help her mother. Thats all she iss. That is who she is. She is no one else. She is mommys little helper.
She was told all this great stuff about herself, she engaged in so many great things. But her mind and life is blank. A puppet for her mother. The mother child.
The best part, her mom taught her bull***t – so not does she not have a life outside of HER. HER is a lie in itself!! its not like she spent her life attending to an ailing mother dying of cancer for 20 years so her only role is caregiver. No because in this case her life wouldnt be a lie. she would have just missed out on key development perhaps – or had a different route.
This isnt a different route. This is – what is it…
This is a bad birth
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I think after work today, I will take some time to be alone. Maybe go to a yoga class and then get some dinner and maybe eat it outside in some park. Take a few hours before going home. Maybe that is a good idea – I mean what else..
I’m at a loss..
My husband had a day off today (last minute) and I know I caused him so much stress this morning. I know I cause a lot of stress. He was so upset and angry at my lashing out.
It goes back to that conversation between us a few weeks ago, how bad things got, how he chose to stay with someone who was abusive – and now often feels wow, stuck with someone who doesn’t seem to get better. he has hope but he is human – a human.
But I also know I have a lot of stress. I mean look at what we spoke about above, how horrific – and clearly all of this is embedded deep down, being activated constantly recently. anger at others, anger at those who do what they want. perhaps anger at the injustice of it all. never feeling quiet and relaxed, feeling angry and roar. perhaps never feeling any long term relief – and so not trusting that it is possible…maybe
Cali ChicaParticipantHello Anita,
I am sorry that you feel overwhelmed, but I do know it is a byproduct of your ability to have empathy.
What I meant by that is the following:
When you asked me what I would be doing instead, instead of helping my mother – I had a blank. Total blank. It occurred to me that life WAS helping her. Everything was her. everything. Even when I thought it wasn’t – it sure was. her.
Cali ChicaParticipantreading above reply I just wrote brought tears to my eyes, how sad.
how sad for young CC to think this way, poor little soul
how sad for adult CC to suffer this way, to this day on July 31,2019 when she is more than 33 years old. how sad
Cali ChicaParticipantit is never enough. never.
instead i would play with my friends, but I dont have that many friends like other people, my mom says its like that sometimes and we don’t always have company
(i was at a standstill here because i thought wait – life IS TRYING for her – if it wasnt for that what would I do? – well blank..no concept of what that even means..blank)
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Cali ChicaParticipanti feel scared when i see her look like that, mean.
I feel she is right I think…that I didn’t do a good job – maybe I will learn better next time..
Cali ChicaParticipantwhen she is upset and mad she looks like angry lady
her eyes get small and mean, she speaks with her mouth a certain way, you can see all her teeth – she looks like maybe an actor ina movie when they get angry like maybe a cartoon
she says lots of things. she says things like:
she knows she shouldnt have trusted i was going to help her, because i always screw up
she knows that i like my dad more anyway and she sees how i look at her, like im not on her side
she says how im “shrewd” and that im smarter than i look, that im good at tricking people that im innocent, but im “smart” and i only care about myself
she says im too “innocent’ and just listen to whoever and whatever without thinking, getting tricked easily, that im foolish
that im a lamb outside but a lion at home, meek and foolish outside, but at home -ready to fight like a lion, roar
Cali ChicaParticipant(okay closing my eyes, and slowly typing what comes)
feel sad and confused, why is my mom upset and mad? i tried to help her. then i feel sad i cant help my poor mom
sad and confused because i tried but maybe i need to do better, i guess maybe its true i don’t listen good, so i have to do better
Cali ChicaParticipantthen i feel really sad. i go in my room, but you know what. she quickly gets happy again and then says oh im the best daughter or something. and then we go out to eat and have fun.
or sometimes then my dad comes to me and makes me happy and then i dont feel so sad that my mom wasnt that nice. usually it goes away fast
Cali ChicaParticipant(thanks, this is helpful, you are helpful)
yes Anita, I do love her, I will do anything for her. yep i will
Cali ChicaParticipantmy mom has no one, so im her person. she always says how shes so happy that at least she has me. sometimes my dad is bad to her so then she has no one. my poor mother she has no one.
(anita I am having trouble accessing what it “feels” like to be the hero – only thing that comes to mind is above if I channel Young CC)
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Yes this is what happened. Yes you are right. tore me to shreds that’s for. I feel broken down and actual shreds as I type this, I feel sorry for CC as I type this.
…I also feel like everything and everyone (seemingly) is a blood sucking leech, taking away and away from CC. Poor CC – she wants to scream. She does. She did this morning
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