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Cali ChicaParticipant
Dear Anita,
I look forward to your notes about interpersonal skills, I’ve benefited very much from doing a workshop yesterday, sitting down and doing homework, writing things out. After I got off the computer with you, I read out loud to my husband to everything that I wrote down. It ignited a lot of conversation for two hours. It was so very productive, like our first couples therapy session without the therapist. Igniting productive conversation. It is the real work. For me solo and for him and I together. I look forward to doing more workshops like that, doing the homework solo, and some together.
Interesting that our topic today is rushing. Today, is a Friday, when I usually work with that mean lady. She is thankfully on vacation. At least the universe had my back given that I had a tough week, to work with her would’ve been very depleting. That goes without being said. But the point of the matter is that luckily I was able to leave work early today, in fact I am actually walking out of the door as we speak. It’s funny because the first thing that I thought about was that I shouldn’t be typing while walking, but I did want to get some thoughts out to you. Rushing is exactly this multitasking. So as we speak I’m currently sitting in a park adjacent to where I work, and writing to you. Focusing only on one task, thinking and writing.
Rushing is innate. I thought about the concept again, of myself at this dinner table. Great visual. I thought about something a little bit different today. It’s not about just the role. You are right and we talk about Roles a lot, and assigning of roles. It has become my understanding that my identity is this a role of being super and rushed. Like saying I am super Type A go go go. Like a personality trait. But I noticed that it’s different than a personality trait.
90 percent of my issues would go away if I stopped rushing. This is not just rushing as in physical rushing walking fast doing things fast trying to multitask cooking three things at once instead of focusing on one. It’s Also the washing of speech, not thinking before I am speaking. Over engaging as a nature without asking myself do I actually want to be a part of this conversation. Habit, habit, habit.
Let’s take the example from London, this cousin was very rude to me yes for sure. That’s a fact. But let’s rewind, my husband and I spoke about this last night. I was over engaging with her. I don’t know this person inside and out like my own sister, yet I was giving her the attention and trust of someone I deeply know, so when I quickly became burnt by her I was very sad and hurt and disappointed. A wise and mature person would take their time and tread carefully with a person before jumping right in. Having boundaries, not rushing into caring about someone or trusting them, or believing that you actually know who they are. My sister used to have this problem often growing up as she was very desperate to make friends so she would believe herself to be best friends with someone where earlier than was healthy.
Well, I see she’s not the only one, for example with this cousin when she brought up these topics about this guy visiting while we were all at this wedding, I could have thought about the concept before speaking instead of jumping into it to make sure that she felt secure and better about it. Who am I to make her feel secure and better about this when in fact her decision was foolish. I’m not her therapist or psychiatrist trying to call her deepest insecurities and fears. Of course this goes back to roles, and the idea that I was my mother’s therapist and psychiatrist so to speak so I don’t have the off switch for this when it comes to even people that I don’t know so well. But I don’t want to digress from our topic, rushing. I rushed into being a supporter for her during this scenario in London. I rushed into being her confidant for this. I rushed into giving her advice. If I had stayed more emotionally reserved and detached from her own personal scenario, I may not have also been in the Spitfire when her insecurities came. Husband was mentioning this today morning actually and he is absolutely right. It has nothing to do with whether she was right or wrong, clearly she was in the wrong. But I rushed myself into her lap almost!
Rushed into her lap so that she could poke and prod at me. Then I am disappointed and sad that someone that I thought was close to me and kind would treat me this way. Foolish!
So rushing leads to all sorts of issues
- This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
It is this rushing, this frenzy, that rains on your parade of life every time, everywhere, every day.
Yes it does.
I really like your example about the food. In fact this is true and I had a not so great relationship with food once I finally lived on my own in my 20s. I recall having trouble taking my time to eat, and always wondering if i was hungry or full. Having trouble following natural cues, given that I was frenzied and rushed.
Of course never realizing that it came back from what you delineated perfectly, distress and frenzy at the dinner table since birth.
I notice a trend of always blaming myself for not being able to enjoy normal things or do normal things, eat slowly, or watch an episode of TV without being distracted. Always rushing, never sinking in.
To add to the matter, I have vivid memories throughout my life of my father attacking me for this exact thing! Go figure.
“CC always rushing and frenzied where is her brain?
Oh look at her always running around foolishly in circles, chasing things
CC doesn’t matter how successful you become, your brain isn’t there – so absent minded
So absent minded, leaving things everywhere, how did she become like this? all of us in the family are so neat and tidy
you think you are doing all the right things and so good, but you can’t even keep your room clean, what is that?
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I hope you have a positive evening as well.
I will write more here, to continue the thought process which we started, knowing you will read this tomorrow.
I thought about how I said outward, I am a terrible interpersonal communicator.. How that felt good.
It felt good to not cover something up, perhaps that is like the constant showing up that has been exhausting to do. Perhaps it is like the social butterfly role. I think often how the social butterfly gets exhausted, she over did it.
But I think so much of it is beyond being over tired, over exhausted. It is being given an identity that is not mine per se. Or perhaps wanting to create a whole new identity.
So much of my talk is frenzied speech.. So much of my “socialness” is not knowing when to shut up. So much of it is guilt and knee-jerk pattern based. Do I enjoy the company of others, sure. But have I become increasingly resentful, yes.. The inner circle.
We talked a lot about the inner circle this month (well in July). I looked at my roots as why I would get so mad and annoyed at S, oh her stupid wedding. Attributing it to not wanting to engage all the time, or hear about BS.
The thing is it has all pointed to one thing, Cali Chica is tired. But she does not just want to rest, she wants to change. She wants to go into a cocoon and come out as a different butterfly. A rebirth, a transformation. She does not like the costume she is wearing right now. And yes the visual of relinquishing the wonder woman costume for the slim nude silhouette is sexy and appealing – it doesn’t just happen this way.
In my “therapy” work today – I realize many false truths about myself. First of which is that I am a good interpersonal communicator. I think about how blind my mother was to how she came off to others, and who she was in the world. I am similar.
Acting out of frenzy is not your innate self. So if I am constantly frenzied, am I ever myself? Yes, I am myself online when I speak to you. I am myself in small moments when I do whatever I want without fear of others.
Do you want to know something? You know how I tell you that I often have mindless chatter about other people. Useless stuff, oh M came to work today and she was telling us how hard it is for kids to get into schools here. Oh Y is going away this weekend but all their plans got ruined, oh Z is doing this. It isn’t gossip or malice or anything, it is just mindless chatter and talk.
Well today, I had none of it. Because I was too tired.
I love being too tired. When I am too tired I am my true self. I am authentic CC. The true needs, wants, wishes, and calm state comes out. It is this person that is a sponge for change and growth.
The frenzied CC is too busy buzzing around to be back down to earth, floating around not grounded. Not on purpose of course.
It shouldn’t have to be this way, the day after an enraged breakdown I have clarity and I am grounded and too tired to be frenzied. Too tired to be frenzied, so not frenzied. It can’t be this way, it is not a way to live, falling to bottom to feel your true self. A vicious cycle.
Surely there must be a way to access this “too tired” innate CC without that. I know it will be with mindfulness. I know there will be no easy way.
I also see this visual of a bumble bee buzzing around aimlessly back and forth up and down in and out. Making it no where, buzz buzz buzz. I see how tired this bumble be gets, but accomplishing nothing. This has been the past few years. Not that I made no progress. But there is usesless distress, and useful learning. The meaningless distress is the buzzing around, feeling it means something, or has a voice, but it is just useless.
I instantly have a visual of my mother on the couch. Small woman, petite in height on a long couch, with a blanket almost over her head. Like a squirmy child, in distress pouting and – yes not in reality. Unable to grasp what is going on. This mother child squirming around making child like noises, so if to say, hellp me save me I am drowning over here. I feel no remorse for her, I feel nothing. I see it and think of a sick person, a flawed person, a lifelong patient in the psych ward – who never actually showed up.
So yes, I have seen useless cyclical distress my ENTIRE LIFE, and not seeing any progress. Not seeing the value of support, help, therapy, change. Of course not.. It was taken as is. This is how your mother is.. Done.
This is why I do not see the value of support, help, therapy, or change. I have no hope or faith in it innately because I never saw it. its not like I had a mother who attended therapy and learned to manage anger. Or a mother who worked on herself to be less aggressive to my father. Or a mother who changed for the better even one percent, or a mother who said how much we helped her, but never was helped. Nothing helped her. So of course I don’t have faith that anything can help. Of course I don’t see value in any “tactics to change.”
But here’s the huge gap – my mother never even TRIED! (not to say if she did she would be better, but for conversation sake). she never tried. She never once did anything to try to become better, and convinced us that the way she is – is how she is – and that is her both curse and achievement. How interesting. Such a curse to be emotional she would repent, and another tie, oh look how much I feel, God made me so caring.
If I saw how much we “did” for my mother and she only got worse, how do I have any faith in what support truly does..?
Cali ChicaParticipantOh Anita,
i just read your reply (after I posted above) and I am in tears. I am so proud of myself for always keeping the language of love. Perhaps with my husband it is the language of war and roar. But if I am able to keep the language of love with you, for all these years and persist so well. I can do anything. Thank you for giving me faith and hope today. This was a pivotal day. It is a pivotal day.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I went back and reread one of your post that talked about the dialectical behavior therapy. What incredible concepts, I hope to elaborate on those further whether it is with you or perhaps a psychotherapist of my own. I have so much faith in the work that we do here. The Concept of reality testing is so extremely interesting to me. Of course I do not believe that it replaces professional psychotherapy entirely, but I know that the work that I’ve done with you is above and beyond what most can comprehend. Our interaction is truly incredible, helpful, and undeniably life-changing. I am so ever grateful for this.
I am going to Go to staples right now to print out that worksheet of interpersonal relationships. I think it is an excellent idea for myself to print it out, and hand one form to my husband and one to myself. Given that I realized only a few minutes ago, that I am terrible at intrapersonal communication, what better place to start turn on the workshop about it.
One thing I see today- is that I have been resistant to therapy in the past because of my intellectualization. Feeling that I understand concepts enough that I don’t necessarily have to go backward and think about the cost and benefit, as I outlined in the work I did earlier with you today. Zooming through life doesn’t make for someone who learns from their past behaviors. I must now learned from my past behaviors. Sure I have an exact reason for what I am and what I’ve gone through, a root. But that doesn’t take away the hard work of learning from my own mistakes.
It’s not that I think I am too good or I am already fine. It is that I don’t have that much faith in value in doing this sort of work. But today because of everything that you typed out, so meticulously, I see so much amazing value in it, so much incredible value but in such a simplistic sense as well. It is truly fascinating. The same things that you can ask someone who is a child can also be asked to an adult, and yeah I could make a world of a difference. It could be something as small as, when you walk into the room how do you want people to see you? This sort of work for an adult could be life altering, and if I asked to a kindergartner it could be also fascinating to here their response.
I’m saying is that I feel very motivated by what you have posted to me today, and I feel very admiring of the therapist that helped you so very much. Fortunate that I have someone like you to share that abundance of wealth with me. Perhaps after all you have made me into a believer of what this sort of work can actually do.
In Order to engage in any lifelong sort of treatment you must have faith that you think it will work. For long-term. I already have faith that our interaction is very beneficial to both you and I. But beyond that I have not been Very dedicated to a treatment plan that is disciplined. I can’t say I will jump start it tomorrow, and that would be foolish. But I do have some more hope about it, and more faith in it.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita that makes sense, but is the love language even there? It is hard to believe that it was even ever there? But yet when I spoke about that child it was there. So it must be. Do you feel it is possible to get that love language back?
In regards to your reply I read it a few times. Do you still believe that fear is you? Do you believe perhaps, that you lived in a way in the past so sick and not well, that you still have much fear associated with that time?
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Funny our ability to always get each other on the same page. As soon as I posted and submitted to you, the inter-personal aspect came back to mine. I wanted to go back and edit my post but I didn’t. Because what is innate is flowing, and that says a lot about me. Here is the thing, my interpersonal skills are not great. They are garbage. Because of what matters is where they are most important, with my husband. That’s wonderful that I am engaging and awesome with patients and colleagues and strangers, but what the hell does that even mean? It is useless fluff. I have terrible interpersonal skills with my husband, all I do is lash out and have rage. If things are fine and I am not triggered I am OK (decent) but the moment I am triggered, which is often, I have zero effective ways of interpersonally communicating. So no Cali Chica is not a good communicator. No she sucks.
Wow it feels good to say that. I haven’t even gone to a true psychotherapist yet, and already am correcting truths about my own identity. Applause
Thank you again for the millionth time for presenting this paperwork to me I know it was a tedious process for you to type all of that out and I extend my greatest gratitude.
Yes, I am not assertive. I am rash, rude, and domineering often. Appropriate assertiveness is. Not the negative connotation. It does not mean to be a bulldog a raging and roaring but not actually saying anything. What do I actually say, do I even say what I mean? Do I even know what I mean? Sometimes I may think I am assertive but I am not actually speaking my truth. I am not outwardly saying, sorry I am too busy to deal with you right now I must get back to my own self. Of course no one in society says this out right, but I don’t even get close to it. Always worried about offending others. BUT NEVER worried about offending my dear husband. WHY. Why is that, the rules don’t apply when it comes to him, I treat him entirely different than anyone else? Why is that?
To your next post:
“for it is as incorruptible as a child, who, still whole in spirit, will accept no compromises or excuses, and it will not stop tormenting us until we stop evading the truth”
I am elaborating on this poem before I read what you wrote, and I then went back to read what you wrote about fear. Here is what I wrote prior:
This child will except no compromise, how smart this child is, it will not stop tormenting us until we seek the truth, we must not EVADE the truth. How humble, kind, smart, and loving this child is. What do I see here? OK I am going to close my eyes and voice text this Anita because I must speak it with my words and not type it with my fingers. Here it is, a sweet child a round flawless face with bigeyes and sleek hair. A sweet kind child, not unlike a puppy, bigeyes and adorable. Simply adorable you just want to squeeze those cheeks. The child is speaking in what language, the language of love. The child is speaking so much love the child is confused by this too but it doesn’t know how to speak anything else it is speaking love. Then of course the child becomes more confused, but yeah it doesn’t know any other language it only knows that one language, so what is it to do? Now the child just screams, it doesn’t know any other language so it pouts and screams and screams and screams it grows defiant. The child has not learned another language, is there another language but love? So it is acting out, the child spoke love but became confused with all of the HATE so now it just screams and roars. Over and over.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Cali Chica.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
He went about it in an incredibly scientific way. This approach really resonates with me being a physician and from an evidence scientific organized background. I feel very and happy and fortunate for you that you found someone like this in your life. I am very glad for you. I thought in my head, I wonder if this person takes skype clients across the country! I would surely be happy to pay him paypal fees for this quality work! Or hopefully I will find someone excellent as well. Your typing of these notes made me feel motivated to explore some. I am working on finding a therapist of my own, but in the meantime I do love that you shared all of this, it is so very helpful and important. I want to do the following, as the good student that I am – it will be helpful. I will add comments as they come to me naturally/authentically as seen in the following
Treatment Plan
Client: CC
Diagnosis:
Long-Term Goals
1. Develop and use coping skills to deal with mood swings.
Mood swings. I never thought myself to be “moody” but what a difference between moody and mood swings. Clearly I have erratic mood swings. One day able to work on my relationship and go to Central Park and be mindful with my husband, the next angry at 5 AM screaming at him about an automatic dog feeder. yes, I have mood skills. No, I do not have coping skills to deal with these mood swings.
2. Develop the ability to control impulsive behavior.
Oh yes! In fact we just touched on this. My husband and I spoke about my impulsivity just last week right. Just because I am “good at what I do” and things have worked out decently thus far does NOT mean I have any appropriate coping skills.. The instant need to text back, to react, to say without thinking. Impulsive. I can not remember a time I was not like this, this is a huge part of my identity even. Sure it has made me a hyper-communicator. But it has been very terrible (for myself) in conflicts. Replying before taking the time to often protect myself! Often acting out of emotions of rage, anger, guilt, defiance.. Feeling that whatever I am feeling right now must be real and right since I am feeling it so strong. Always believing my emotions. Feeling they have a voice – a true one – that speaks on my behalf.
3. Replace “black and white” thinking with the ability to tolerate ambiguity and complexity in people and issues.
Once again spot on! How useful this is, and the perfect timing. That’s the beauty of our interactions Anita…I have incredible incredible difficulty with ambiguity. It makes me feel physically uncomfortable. I have always done HORRIBLE with concepts of “we shall see” “we will figure it out” “let’s see what happens””maybe it will work out” “we can figure it out when the time comes” etc
This sort of thing drives me crazy. Often they are filler words that people say to circumvent commitment or answering. This is maddening to me. But other timess they are not – sometimes you truly do need to see things through – and “wait it out..” Not being impulsive and making a decision based on the first thought or feeling – saying now or never! Which goes to the concept of above impulsivity and rush. It always feels like there is a rush for a conclusion or answer. LLike a deadline….what are you going to do about that situation? huh? Tell me now – now now now – subconscious pressure to have the decision now! Black and white. No waiting it out, no timme to sink in, no time to assess, no time to “sleep on it”
4. Develop and use anger management skills.
Well yes, they must be developed.. I know all of the ones in my head that we should do. stop and halt before speaking etc. They are random words in my head, never executed, and little faith that I am capable of sticking to them..
5. Learn and use better interpersonal skills.
This one is interesting and important. See being that I am engaging ‘social butterfly” I was tricked into believing I have excellent interpersonal skills. Yes, I do – when it comes to certain things. But in this realm I am seeking SELF help. And these “skills” are often detrimental to, yes, ME. They often have benefited the other party, and continue to, but hurt me – and as a result my husband as well. The inner circle aspect is key here.
6. Stop self-damaging behaviors..
Strategies
– Determine what situations trigger anger, fear, suspicion, depression, anxiety, etc.
I know this list is for ongoing work, and so I don’t expect myself to “conquer” any of this now, as it is for ongoing treatment/healing therapy. Yet, I do want to write about things that come up at this moment. A major trigger of mine has been other people, and the pressure to attend to others. I know this is deep rooted in the role that I had to be for my mother, constant attending to – drop everything and go. I think of it as the extreme scenario. Miss Congeniality always speaks at events and mentors young women, she is great at it. As a result after all those years, she neglected what she herself needs to rejuvenate, she is so great at autopilot. She now has grown resentful and angry and snaps at even the smallest question going her way. Hey miss C, do you have a minute to tell us about your favorite hobby. She feels disgruntled – no roar! Can’t you just leave me alone! Constantly badgering me. Miss Congeniality does not want to be miss C anymore, she wants to take off the tiara and sleep and rest. She wants to not have that guilt of not being, well, congenial. She feels it may have been better off if she never received that title in the first place, to take on that role – now it is apart of who she is, it is hard to simply undo.
– Identify the dysfunctional or negative thinking behind the negative feelings, and challenge/ replace them with more realistic and healthy thoughts.
We have spoken on that, and the concepts of cognitive distortion – a long ways to go with that. It is often hard to remember in reality that the negative thinking is “dysfunctional” and not reality. It is innate for myself to think the negative thinking is true and real and telling me something honest.
– Understand the connection between what happened in the past, and what is happening now when emotions become intense.
Wow, so very important. This is some next level stuff. It will take true high level mindfulness. I am far from there at present.
– Build motivation to stop self-defeating, impulsive behaviors.
Yes
– Replace destructive (to self or others), impulsive habits w/ healthy coping methods
Yes
– Teach assertiveness in communication
For me perhaps teach, less emotionally fueled communication, and keep emotional distance whenever necessary
– Identify ways to find fulfillment and satisfaction
Yes – oh yes. How incredibly stated.
– See qualified physician to evaluate if medications are advisable.
Yes
What the Work Will Look Like
– Discuss the past and how it seems to invade the present.
I like that word invade. It makes sense to me visually. The sticky goopy past invading into now, sticky and yucky.
– Look at benefits and costs of behaviors you’ve used to protect yourself from intense bad feelings.
Wow to actually look at costs of my behaviors. How important for me. I run and run and continue. I seldom look back and re-evaluate. It’s like the kids who finished the test and went back over every single answer to ensure they did it right. Versus me, do it once with focus and confidence and stand up and hand it in, knowing I did fine.
Well, that isn’t working now. Looking back and evaluating cost/benefit is essential. I can’t continue to rush and drive through life, knocking over cones and not look back and say – what was my driving habit like that made me knock it over? Versus, oh too bad, I’ll be sure not to do that next time.
– Learn to monitor and recognize when these feelings arise, and use distraction techniques early in the experience (delaying reactions, relaxation, breathing, exercise,…)
Yes, as above I have little faith I can continue this sort of thing. I see it as someone who is all giddy about new practices as a new years resolution, but by Feb they go back to their old ways. That’s how I see myself when it comes to these Healthy techniques.
– Learn new ways to talk, act, and think when emotions (especially suspicion or anger) becomes intense.
Interesting, I read above in the poem how you can not have fear. In fact the poem says “Don’t be Afraid, Let life take you by hand.” This is very gripping. I see that I am afraid of losing my “identity.” This identity which was mostly placed by my mother. Oh amazing fun loving gregarious CC, everyone loves CC. Perhaps deep down I fear that if I change the way I am, I will turn into someone: sad, mean, boring, introverted.. Perhaps I worry that the innate self of who I am has “worked” so if I change myself – I will turn into someone who “doesn’t work” if that makes sense. (clearly a delusion)
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Incredible. Thank you immensely for typing all of this out. I want to reply in segments.
I too enjoyed this poem, enjoyed in the sense that it is simple and makes sense, not overly flowery or abstract.
It states:
Contentment is life living through you.
Joy is life living through you.
Satisfaction and strength
are life living through you.
peace is life living through you.
And I think, I know, I have none of those. Contentment – no. Joy – no. Satisfaction -no. Peace -definitely no.
I do not have life living through me. Nope. In fact I do not feel I am living. I feel I am circling, but not living. Wow, what a shame. Surely is.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
In short it feels cyclic – and at this point – it is like what the heck is going to happen? This is my pattern.
And my poor husband frankly can not take any more lashing out, he is at the brink himself…
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Yes. I am.
I also am overwhelmed at the pattern at lashing out at my husband and am starting to feel it is “out of my control.” Of course the educated individual in myself with a strong head knows that is BS. Just like when a patient tells me they are destined to be obese it is out of their control, I say – no you can do it! And motivate them.
I know it is different, but intellectually I know exactly what you say the mindfulness and the practice.
But – the innate self feels overwhelmed and cyclical. I don’t actually feel the medications will change much as I do not believe they will “keep me from lashing out.” I do believe there is a time and place for them, and I am not sure if this part of the journey really is for that..
I do need to find a quality psychotherapist which I have been working on today and yesterday. I also look forward to your notes.
So at this point, I worry for my husband – having this pattern of using him as a punching bag. Over and over and over. He is sick and tired. I am sick and tired.
Cali ChicaParticipantokay,
so I feel innately there is USE in what I am going through. In general. So lets take this past month. July – fourth of July – the horrific wife, how I felt after. London, the horrific cousin, my breakdown after. And current.
I feel that I am going through things, learning, and processing. It truly feels this way.
Yet on the outside its cyclical – up and down – up and down. “fine” then lashing at my husband, a little better – then “lashing
So Anita, according to you (and I am sorry if it is a pressured question at all) – according to you – do you see that any of these ups and downs have healing value – or is it just meaningless distress?
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Moderation.
And you do believe with practice I can achieve that, interesting. This morning I felt this sense that the “ups and downs” are useless and circuitous. That I convince myself that it is useful because I am finally feeling and not as numb.
I know there is no answer, but do you personally think that in this I am actually activating past trauma and processing? is there “use” in any of this feeling/distress?
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Good Morning. I woke up today with more clarity. I felt the following:
1) wow one day waking up horrible, the next one okay – feels better
2) feels “bipolar” up and down up and down
3) perhaps I need medication because of these ups and downs…
4) No! these ups and downs are “healing” and feeling and apart of the journey, no need to suppress it with medication, its trauma manifesting itself
5) But…if there’s up and down and up and down – how do I know I am actually moving net forward? and not in circles..?
Have you, Anita, had these sort of thoughts before, back earlier in your journey perhaps? When you would feel enraged and horrible one day, and more calm the next…or that sort of thing. I wonder if any of the above occurred in your brain as well..
Cali ChicaParticipantThank you Dear Anita, I will keep that in mind. Have a good rest of your day.
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