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May 17, 2016 at 5:17 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104832Brav3Participant
Rhaul,
Thank you for writing, I send you relief and compassion. It has been difficult but learning weeks of my life. I have started to question about everything? The whole idea of happiness, marriage , relationships. The answers that I am getting are breaking my whole perception about reality and what good and bad is.
I have been practicing meditation everyday and I will try to find a class for yoga. I will surely look into your journaling.
I hope the your pain and suffering ends soon to.
Good luck
Brav3Brav3ParticipantI am not saying that one shouldn’t get marry or have kids. That’s not what I am saying. There’s nothing wrong in fulfilling your deepest desires.
P.S. I am a 30 year old guy who struggles with loneliness.
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Brav3ParticipantDear dreaming715,
There are few things I noticed in your story and I feel like you have developed like many of us, wrong believes about life. I would like to give you suggestions. I will try to be short, for both gender and very straight. So, that it might benefit some guys as well. Sorry, if they are brutally honest.
Flawed believes/ ideas
1. I will be 28 or soon 30 with no man/woman in my life and I am running out of time as I am getting old.
2. All my friends are married and have kids, why I am single. There must be something really wrong/ flawed with me.
3. I will strive for a relationship by registering to all dating websites just the way I have done for work/job/fitness to find a man/woman for me.
4. I feel lonely and empty, there’s a void in me that I want to fill with finding a right partner and by someone loving me.
5. By getting a man/woman ( or marriage or kids), I will be happy.
6. I am inherently flawed as I continue to fail.And then you are using mind altering activities to numb pain ( like Tv, unhealthy food etc). Some people use drugs, alcohol, recreational sex, overworking, overexercising and many other things to distract themselves from the everyday torture of their mind.
Now here’s the biggest truth which will not make sense for sure but IF ONLY YOU ARE WILLING to understand it will surely save you. It is this – even if you get that perfect lover who marries you and have kids and makes you happy, you will not have lasting happiness. I would like to add more but I am just going to stop here as not many people are ready to learn this truth.
I will end with some questions that if you are ready to ask yourself it might give you directions.Questions to ask yourself
1. Why I believe that I must marry and have kids? Is it because of culture, media influence? Is it also my desire? Will be really happy?
2. Why I believe that my friends are married with kids are all happy? Are they really? Have you seen other people in this whole world who have got their deepest desires fulfilled and they are happy? If yes, then all those celebrities and rock star who lose themselves completely?
3. Why I believe that striving for relationships by going to as many dates as possible, I will end up finding right partner? Will you?
4. Why I am scared of being alone? What is loneliness? How can I be happy by not being with someone? What if happiness is different from pleasure?
5. Why I believe that by being married with kids, I will be happy? What about those people who are getting divorced everyday? What about those people who are leaving their spouses because they cheated? What about those parents who are deeply disappointed because of their kids poor behavior/ violence to others? Surely, being married with kids was way to achieve fulfillment and happiness in life and then these people wouldn’t be unhappy?If you read this post carefully and try to understand what these questions are pointing at, it will make you understand what happiness. If not, do not worry, time will come for that.
Good luck
Brav3May 15, 2016 at 4:04 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104605Brav3ParticipantMarliv,
Thank you for your compassion. You are right on spot about feelings. I have been feeling this way, unfair, betrayal, and anger. And like you said some days are so worse that I feel I have hit rock bottom again. Some days I am okay.
I know I am stronger than this but it gets difficult to see that when I am feeling immense heartache. And then the feeling that I can’t fix or change this give rise to despair and loss of faith in ‘love and relationship’.
I am trying to learn to embrace my loneliness and finding way to be happy now and I am looking ways to cultivate this attitude everyday. I understand what you said about ‘Some day you’ll meet someone new, someone better and you’ll thank God about all those failed relationships, that lead you to true love’ and I think its a positive way to look at it. However, I have learnt something different from books on Buddhism and they all point towards to live with ‘groundlessness’. I will explain if you’d like to know more but basically its just to ‘not have any hope for the future’.
Following above I do not want to live with any hope that some day I’ll meet true love. I think I feel this way is partly due to my loss of faith in ‘love’ and partly due to the fact that everything in this world continues to change. What if I find someone and this happens again? There’s no such thing as security. I want to learn to live with no one and if someone comes, I am okay and if they leave, I am still okay.
I will try to find the book you recommended.
May 15, 2016 at 3:46 am in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104560Brav3ParticipantHi Evan,
Thank you for your detailed reply. I have been reading books on Buddhism and they tell you very similar way, to breath in and be with what is, to handle difficult emotions. Problem is, my habitual reactions and grasping are sooooooooo strong that I am not able to overcome the emotional waves. Something triggers me and I am riding emotions , thrown by them again and again.
Practicing meditation has helped me to see this but that’s about it. I am not able to surf these waves. I can see them but I get so entangled by them that I don’t come out of it. Its like I want to do something about it rather than accepting it. And since I can’t do anything about it, it give rise to anger, sadness and other emotions.
Its like I know the answers but I just can’t apply. I continuously fail to surrender to present. I continue to struggle instead of ceasing it. Intellectually, I understand but emotionally I just don’t get it.
And last few days have been big fails as I found out my ex has started seeing someone already. This has caused enormous emotional waves to start again.
Thanks
Brav3May 14, 2016 at 1:23 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104532Brav3ParticipantHi Maria,
Yes, I agree with you that. I have been working on my acceptance of loneliness and other emotions post break up, instead fighting them. And I thought I was going okay, until I recently find out that my ex is seeing someone already. Now, I am back to square one, feeling again those raw emotions. Its jut so painful.
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May 14, 2016 at 1:18 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104531Brav3ParticipantHello Marliv,
Thank you for your suggestions. After recently finding out that my ex is someone new already, I have been feeling quite alot raw emotions again. It feels that I am still stuck and not able to let go.
Brav3
May 12, 2016 at 8:20 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104411Brav3ParticipantDear Anita,
I will surely practice these exercises.
Thank you so much.
Brav3May 12, 2016 at 5:35 pm in reply to: Need suggestions on dealing with grasping and loneliness #104404Brav3ParticipantThank you Ranjan.
Brav3ParticipantAnita and Adam P,
Thank you for your kind words. I spoke to some friends and felt okay after that. And this morning after discussion with a counselor, I am feeling soooooooo much better, infact relieved as if a huge burden lift off from my shoulders. Its little hard to describe this feeling, but it feels like that grieving process is over.
Now, I am ready to get on with my life 🙂
Cheers
Brav3ParticipantI am shattered even though I had this feeling that she is gonna hook up as soon as she get the chance. And now I am seeing it.
Brav3Participantanita,Triangle sun, adam p, Inky
I went to work this morning and found out that my ex is already seeing someone.
Its has hit me like ton of bricks. Struggling to cope. OH god ! If there’s any !
Brav3ParticipantHi Anita,
I was happy and chatty before, it was like nothing could bring me down. Make jokes through out day, laugh with other people and hear their sorrows. Harmless flirting with girls, being fun and silly in parties. Not to drag or anything, I have this pic of me getting kissed by two girls on cheeks in party, hilarious.
Now, I am like a miserable person who just want to be left alone.
Brav3ParticipantJust read stories about other guys going through same. People are struggling with it from 5-9 months, even 1 year post break up
🙁I just want to get back to be that happy and confident guy again.
Brav3ParticipantThank you Anita
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