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October 26, 2015 at 6:37 pm #86151ElleParticipant
I haven’t been on this site in a very long time. But I thought I’d stop by and thank you all once again for your kind words when I was so down. At that time I couldn’t imagine feeling good and loved again. But guess what? It happened!! I kind of put myself out there even though I wasn’t over my ex. I don’t know how it happened but I met someone who is totally heads over heels in love with me. He’s thoughtful, loving, and not at all scared off by my heritage. He wants to make things work. Imagine that! I can’t tell you that I took time to heal and love myself and be happy…I mean I did try to do that but I was no where near healed. But all of a sudden out of nowhere, my new knight in shining armor came along. We’re taking things one step at a time, no pressure and no rush. But I’m happy to be in this spot. Thanks to you all for being there for me and encouraging me to hang in there. (PS: @pink24, when you said that he would come along, I didn’t believe it one bit, but you were so right, my friend 🙂 )
March 11, 2015 at 6:55 pm #73854ElleParticipantDear kind people, thank you from the bottom of my heart. If I was a casual observer stumbling across this page and read all the encouraging responses, I would have marveled at the beauty of it all. But this means so much to me. You really gave peace to my soul. You all don’t know me, yet you took the time to read my post and reach out to comfort me, to share your thoughts, wisdom and above all sincere kind empathy.
I will keep coming back to this page to read your words every time life and loneliness starts to take a toll.
Much love to you all. May your days be blessed with much warmth, love and happiness. You all deserve it and more.March 1, 2015 at 9:38 am #73385ElleParticipantIt’s great when you meet someone that you have a great connection with, so much chemistry, it’s magical. But it sounds like you’re both very young and added to that mix alcohol when you’re out clubbing and yeah you’re not making the best decisions. Sure that kiss must have been painful. Maybe she didn’t mean it that way. Maybe she was trying to test you/ provoke you to see what your feelings were really like? It sounds like she’s still trying to figure out her own life. So if you’re both in the same situation, both trying to figure out your life, that’s not a solid foundation for a relationship of any kind, no matter how strong of a connection you feel to each other. I think what’s more important at this stage is focusing on fixing your life, getting help for addiction problems and figuring out what you want to do with your life. Sure travel is great but you can’t stay in the early 20s going out and partying and staying in hostels forever. You can travel as a mature adult and connect with other mature adults. So just focus on you for a while so you have a strong sense of self and direction and that will help you establish a meaningful and sustainable relationship, with this girl or another.
March 1, 2015 at 9:25 am #73384ElleParticipantThe more that I think of these “culture barriers” the less I understand them to be honest. I mean at the end of the day we are all humans and we share the same needs, desires and aspirations. Sure we have differing ways of thinking, but these aren’t particularly tied to culture but more about upbringing and personalities. Especially in this day and age where we’re exposed to all sorts of cultures, even if it’s just online, I think it’s difficult for a person to be of just one “pure” culture that’s incompatible with other cultures. I don’t consider myself as being defined by one culture. I’ve lived in so many different places and have friends from some many different cultural backgrounds/ ethnicities and each has left a mark on who I am. But that doesn’t make me incompatible with someone from a different cultural background, it makes me even closer to them. I can easily appreciate the music, food, history and dynamics of other cultures and feel confident that this variety enriches life. And I have seen people with less multicultural experience have very successful marriages and relationships with people from other cultures. It comes down to two people in a relationship committing to making things work. The biggest issue in my case was that the way I dress (a headscarf along with normal Western clothes) immediately associates in people’s minds with one culture. And for my guy it was more about that outside perspective, the “what would people think” than any cultural differences within our relationship. On a number of occasions when we would go out he would notice people looking at us and that made him uncomfortable. He could very possibly have been projecting his insecurities. I never felt that anyone was looking at us in an outraged way, if anything they probably thought we made a cute couple 🙂
So anyway, that was one thing and the other thing was the family issue. And that was the biggest issue.My family would never accept me marrying a non-Muslim. His family would never accept him marrying a Muslim. So instead of getting our thinking caps on and trying to figure out a solution to that, he wanted to save us the agony of fighting that battle. I feel like lots of guys who are in that situation lose the strength to stand up for the relationship and instead they break it off so that you can find someone with whom convincing family etc of the relationship wouldn’t be a battle. That’s not to say that they aren’t equally hurt by the situation, they very well may be. But in their minds they’ve rationalized it as the right thing to do.
I hope @Alf and other guys who come across this thread can share their thoughts on this. Am I on the right track with this conclusion?February 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm #73352ElleParticipantI’m sorry to hear that so many beautiful people out there are suffering from the same situation. I hope the responses you found on this thread have given you some peace like they helped me. I’ve had a really busy week at work and haven’t had time to think about my situation. Ha! Sometimes being too busy with work is a blessing. When I thought about him earlier this evening all I felt was love. Yes, I am incredibly hurt and sad, but I wish him love and peace and hope that he is able to grow and overcome the limitations that he has put on his mind and his heart. He said that he was struggling with identity issues having grown up in a multicultural household (parents from different European countries) and that he didn’t want to add any further complexity to that. And I believe him. Maybe he was being really heroic and wanted me to find someone from my faith so I wouldn’t have to deal with challenges. Maybe he met someone new. Whatever it is, I send him love. I trust that life is a mystery and sometimes you just have to be comfortable with that rather than drive yourself crazy wondering why and what could have been. If we’re meant to be together we will find each other again, if not, then I just have to accept that too.
February 23, 2015 at 7:52 pm #73225ElleParticipantYou guys are awesome. Thank you for taking the time to respond and keep my spirits up. I want someone to genuinely want to be with me/ fight for me too. Hopefully he will come along at some point.
February 22, 2015 at 1:17 pm #73163ElleParticipant@onewish, @funsized, @Strawberry and @pink24, thank you sooo much. You have no idea how much your notes of support and hope are helping me. I am still in a fog, still feeling that this is a bit surreal, still feeling sad, still hoping (although that hope is now less than 5%) that this isn’t the end of our relationship. One moment I can focus on other things in my life (work is all consuming unfortunately) one moment I can listen to a nice song and sing along and smile and a short time later I come back to earth and it hits me, I will probably never see him again. I have lost someone who I love so much and invested so much of myself in. One moment I feel like I did all I could, I gave him a chance to step up and hold my hand and together we could face any difficulty. Another moment I question if I could have done more, compromised more, shown him that I was even more flexible. Should I have avoided having that conversation that ended it through email and instead showed up at his place so that we could really put our thoughts and feelings vulnerably out there and save our love? Did I do all I can to hold on to our love? If there’s anything I can be accused of it’s being to empathetic. Should I have been more demanding instead of understanding? Should I have been more impulsive and spontaneous without caring that I would appear needy? Should I have been more street smart? Do guys hold on to a woman more if she is more distant and elusive?
I wonder if he asks himself these questions? He told me that he loved being with me, the talks we had, the incredible intimacy we shared. Is he now questioning what happened, or is he already moving on, already looking for the next relationship with a girl whose cultural background doesn’t add any stress to his cultural identity issues?
I know there’s nothing I can do now except ride that rollercoaster of emotions and stay hopeful that this will pass. It is still very scary. I want someone who is open-minded and can see beyond all that stuff, but I also want someone who is strong, someone with whom I have deep emotional and physical chemistry and it scares me that I may be asking for too much, looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. You all know that in many cultures, the emphasis is on finding someone who is “good”, treats you well, etc, because relationship/ marriage is hard work and what’s important at the end of the day is that you’re with someone who meets some level of good character. But what if there is no passion? I know I know, what step at time, get through the pain of the break-up first and then see what happens….February 21, 2015 at 3:58 pm #73103ElleParticipantThank you for responding, Pink! I liked how you put it “aren’t two cultures better than one?”. That’s exactly how I feel. It will take time to get over this loss and let my heart heal. It really was love because I accepted him as he was, even if part of his personality wasn’t open to being scared of a relationship with me given my cultural background.
Do you think there are more open-minded guys out there? I feel like most guys don’t see me to begin with, you know, with headscarf and all. And I’m not the kind of person to think just stay within your “own community”. I want a relationship that makes my heart sing, not just a practical arrangement. -
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