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TommyParticipant
I do not understand the reason for this separation?? Why are you taking this break from each other? Are you angry with each other? Has one person done something to the other? Was there cheating? Or is it just issues that keep coming up which hurt each other?
This seems all to familiar. Like banging heads against the wall. As a kid I did this, bang my head against the wall. Why? Because it felt good when I stopped. Yeah, not a smart kid. Learnt that at an early age. Anyway, you have a relationship. There was love there once and now it’s gone? Have the feelings changed so much that there has to be this split to be able to reconcile your differences?
Personally, I hope you two reconcile and live happily ever after. But, we all know that living with another person will have its ups and downs. It will have its joys and sorrows. But, we do it together. That is the bond we should have. Please call her. talk with her. Ask what is going on between you two. How did you end up in this situation? Nothing gets reconciled by not talking. Silence only creates distance.
Dear Clara,
I hope this post finds you well. Healthy, happy and safe. I wish nothing but the best for you. Nothing gets better from being apart unless there is really true love. Hungry love. Young love. Like the saying goes, Absence makes the heart grow fonder. And hopefully if you care more then it will prompt you to change so you can enjoy the happiness. If one is not happy with themselves then how can one be happy with another person? One can not depend on another to make them happy. You must be happy with you first then another person will add to your life. Otherwise all we find is disappointment. My advice is to find happiness within yourself so you can share this with the people in your life. Best wishes and much love for you in the future.
Tommy
PS, Good luck with whatever happens or whatever you decide to do.
TommyParticipantJust thinking to myself, so do not read if you do not want to.
When is it ever good news to hear a couple has separated for a period of time? Never is the answer. Being in a relationship means to be committed to each other. Good times, hard times and so on. When asked if you still like me, the answer should come easily. When there is silence then … Is the person bored and want something new? Why did this relationship turn into something disposable? It makes no sense to me. If you move in together then there must have been some sort of love and not just lust? Maybe some people do not understand that living together means much work to handle another’s sh!t. You find out how much you love your parents when they become old and you have to take care of them. It is a burden. But, one that we know we must get thru. So, living with your partner should mean taking the sh!t and working thru it together not separate. People who want to be separate are those looking for someone else or something else. If one is not happy with themselves then they won’t be happy with anyone. They will constantly look for the side with greener grass.
In hetero marriages, women are about 80% to initiate divorce proceedings. They say the marriage was over long before the divorce. Hitting the man with divorce from out of nowhere. And, the divorce women will often find it that much easier to marry and divorce again. So, as soon as they are bored or become unhappy, out comes the legal proceedings to split. I do not know if this is true but is what I have heard.
I am guessing that it is harder to find a person who has values which correspond with yours. No contact? Meaning do whatever you want to do without guilt or any sense of loyalty? No reporting? No caring. No sharing. Wow, how this must hurt. Like being left at the altar. Thinking one is in a real relationship and then having the rug pulled out from under one’s feet. Let down hard. All one wants to do is to hear her voice again. Hold her, Kiss her, look into her eyes and feel safe. But, it is out of reach.
Sorry for my rant. I wish you well and hope the next relationship is better.
TommyParticipantDear Mr. A
What is the old saying? Turn around is fair play? If you put yourself in her shoes then you would understand that losing weight is not easy. Her body image in her mind is not the same as yours about her. And, I said if you want change then you must change. But, down to it, you don’t want this woman anymore. You want a fit woman who will bear you children. Looking at it from your point of view, divorce and pay her monthly alimony. Find another woman and pay for the new marriage with kids.
When I got married, I will not cheat on my wife and never leave her unless that will be what she wants. I try to remember affection and humor is the best medicine. I don’t push her. I want her happy not worrying about how life is going due to her husband’s demands. Well, to each their own.
I hope you find it in yourself to change your habits. Find that part of you that can inspire your wife to achieve your goals and make you happy. Good luck.
TommyParticipantThe heart sutra sounds like when one experiences the truth of one’s nature. One moves from living in the identity of this person to a point of view outside but a part of this life. Break thru the five skandhas. This identity is brought to life thru thoughts and constant renewing of the present experience. What one believes what one is comes from all the thoughts one has had. This includes memories. When one breaks thru this identity and can experience life from another point, The mind opens and understanding of this world comes rushing in. And as one practices more and more, one begins to live from that point. The results from living at that place, comes wisdom and compassion. There really is nothing special. Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. The only thing that arises from enlightenment is the wisdom and compassion one receives from living from another point.
As a person who has looked at Dementia and some of its ramifications, memory is important to one’s identity. Losing memory, one loses where one comes from. Loses friends and family even while they stand next to them. Memories are great when they allow us the freedom to be who or what we want to be. But, they also hinder us if they are where we retreat to all the time.
A blank white canvas indeed. $10,000 dollars? Not just for a blank white canvas but for the art that the artist provided in his presentation. Art is not just an object. It is the beauty the artist presents to its viewers. It makes us think and experience things differently than we did before. Red canvas is no longer blank cause it is red. A different way to look at life.
TommyParticipantThere is something called an intermittent fasting. 16 hours no food and 8 hours for eating. Of course, do not eat too much for those eight hours. Skipping breakfast. and going to noon will help. This type of fasting helps with health issue. It takes about a month or so to see the changes. But, once they start to come, the health will improve.
TommyParticipantYou catch more bees with honey. My meaning is that you need to give her a reward system. Something that she wants. Maybe affection, kisses for each time she loses weight or even tries. Get her thinking about other things than food. Schedule time to do thing near diner time. Do the thing and come back to food later. Have sex instead of diner. Have her be the more active partner.
If you choose to punish her by living separate lives then she will have no incentive to loose weight. You have to be the positive one. The leader, the man of the house. Exercise at this moment may be difficult for her. So go for walks. Make it romantic. Give flowers not chocolates. Reward her for making the effort. A kiss, holding hands, a nice word something to make her feel good about her efforts.
I have said this many times. Make the change and the marriage will change. It starts with you. Look at the man in the mirror.
TommyParticipantI am guessing that things seem to be different now. When I met the right girl, we would talk all the time. Smile when we met. The first time we kissed, we knew it was right. Intimacy meant exclusiveness. And that was kissing and touching parts of the body. There didn’t need to be a verbal contract. We just knew.
It seems to me that he was a snake. Make talk that you wanted to hear and then behave badly. Took advantage of you and goes off about how you are not together. Having sex means the two are together. We aren’t one night stands kind of people. If he is then leave him. Leave him quickly. Cut off any talk or text. Someone like that does not deserve you. Be strong. You can do better than him.
What man spends two months with a woman only to have sex and then say they are not GF and BF?? And he took your “V”? That just sounds like a dog doing his dirty deeds. Kick him out. You don’t need this crap. Find someone who will honor you for the good person you are.
TommyParticipantIt is not good to have blinders on. Cause it limits the scope of what you see. Helcat and Anita are a couple of very nicest people you will ever meet. They see what I saw in your posts. You may have not wanted to present it that way but the truth came out. Still, even if a driver cuts one off, we do not go after them. And if they are found in a ditch or rolled over, we do not abandon them without first trying to help. That is the humanity inside of us. Some people lose contact with that part of themselves. I hope you can reflect and learn to be a better man. Have a nice life. Good luck in your future.
TommyParticipantDear Helcat,
I am not angry at him or for his wife. Being self centered, I only thought how useless I am cause I could not be compassionate. That I have no wisdom in this matter. But, when one comes upon a person who is hungry but you know the person has stolen before, do you feed the person or not. So being a thief should not prevent one from feeding the hungry. The sun shines on all the people not the select few. Compassion should be given to those who need it.
So, again, I do need to work on myself. Need to clean up mu thoughts. Not to let one’s sense of reason and feelings of righteousness controls one’s actions or words. He was here for a few kind words. Much like that girl who keeps posting about her ex living next door and feeling like her ex cheated and lied to her. She just wanted to hear a kind word. I was stupid and just told her to stop and move on otherwise she will not move on and live a better life. It should not matter what I want.
TommyParticipantTommy – for the last 9 days I have been dying of guilt. I am not a person with these values, I have never lied or cheated ever.
Dear Abde,
I am sorry I could not find a kind word for you in your time of pain and looking for closure. If a man comes to me looking for some food then I should ne kind enough to give some food to the man. It doesn’t matter if the man was a cheat or liar even when they say they have never lied or cheated ever. (When your own words in your first post betray your actions!) The sun shines on everyone. Everyone will have pain. And so, I should have been kind. I am sorry. Please feel better and hope you can move forward.
I have spent the past month in meditation. Having spent much time with reflections and insights into myself. I think this is very good for people to go thru this kind of experience. When the revelation that we are really so insignificant in the universe comes upon us, we can realize that our lives are such a short piece of life as a whole. That to remain stuck in a mode or feeling that is wasteful of the time we have left in this world. Move forward. Namaste.
TommyParticipantDear Helcat
It looks like I have done it again. Opened my big mouth about some guy’s “On line Dating Gone Wrong”. I thought I had worked on my self centeredness. Become more open to others. But, this guy was to work with his priest and wife on their marriage. But, disappointed with having to wait for the divorce, he strikes out on a dating app. Meets someone and lies to her. Hurts her. And he can only think about himself. Where is my sympathy? Where is my compassion? Where is the wisdom? I may have to leave again to work on myself. Try harder to be a better person like you and Anita.
Tommy
TommyParticipantWell, being dishonest and self centered did get you into this situation. Lying and manipulation ended hurting someone and you only think about how you feel and how you hurt. Only men have a way of compartmentalizing parts of their lives to suit the way they feel at the moment.
For example, a man cheats on his wife with another woman. Then goes to his wife to confess. Does the confession make his wife feel better? No, it only makes him feel better. Then the excuses comes. “She didn’t mean anything”. Well, if she didn’t mean anything then why did you throw away the marriage for her? Where are the values placed?
So, instead of working with your wife and priest to work on your marriage, you strike out on a dating app and meet another woman. Lie about your marriage. Fool her. And then, you don’t know why this relationship went this way? Seriously, you knew what you were doing. Knew it was wrong. But did it anyway.
As a man, living inside a marriage. I know how tough it can be to live as last in line. Putting my wife and child first. Being happy or not isn’t the reason to stay or go. It is about being the man. Living up to my responsibilities, duties. If you are not happy in your marriage then change. If you change then your marriage will change. If you need to do the divorce then do it.
I am sorry that I have no sympathy for you. You are suffering due to your own actions and your own choices. Looks like I have lost my compassion. I can not give you a kind word. Seems I will have to spend more time working on myself. To find a way to open my heart to people who cheat and lie.
TommyParticipantWhat is Buddhism? One can learn more about Buddhism in library books. And then one can learn about the heart of Buddhism from a good teacher. And live a life of Buddhism with regular meetings of a sangha. But, to start, reading a few books will help.
What have I learned? Buddhism is something you can take in small doses or large ones. It is up to you. Buddhism presents its teachings and it becomes your wish whether to follow or dismiss it. There is no push. Most start off with the four noble truths. Life is suffering. The truth of the cause of suffering. The truth to the end of suffering. The path that leads to the end of suffering. It may explain it but it is up to you to see if there is truth in those words. And when you do learn the truth, you will believe and seek enlightenment. The most common path is thru meditation. Meditation does not guarantee enlightenment. But, there is a guarantee that there is no enlightenment without it. Mindfulness is an extension of meditation in the active waking world. Some will meditate for stress relief or some other form of benefit. Concentration, relaxation, insight etc. Later, one learns of the three jewels. Buddha, the Dharma, the Sangha. Then the three truths of Buddhism. Dukkha, Anicca, and Anatta. I wish you well on your journey.
June 16, 2024 at 8:15 am in reply to: Past Hurts & Present Concerns: Advice Needed for a Stronger Bond #433875TommyParticipantJust voicing my opinion, …
I think it selfish to say that the person one is with is not the way you want her to be. Of course there is nothing wrong in wanting thing the way you want them to be. Just that it is selfish. Whenever I got involved with a girl, there was physical attraction. But, there was a little more to it. And even if the person isn’t exactly physically the way you want them to be, The love and enjoyment of being together should be enough. If it isn’t then you should not be with that person. You will only being wanting something else. That won’t be good for you or her.
Next is that physical attraction is not the only thing you want. Being a man you want a woman who will be there for you. Help you in your efforts. Be a partner to your life. Loyalty. Trust worthy. Compassionate. Loving. Supportive. That doesn’t always comes in a seductive package. And these qualities are much more important to me.
TommyParticipantI had a friend who was always out cheating on his girlfriend. They lived together and would have many arguments. It was only after they had kids that he settled down a bit. They started to get along better. I am not saying that having kids will make one’s married life better. However, one does tend to do more towards having a stable home for the children.
Male perspective? I use that as an excuse for saying things which make no sense at all to women. Sometimes it makes no sense to me too. It certainly makes no sense to my wife. Not to complain too much about her, she asks me why am I so crazy. I have learned to take time and take breaths before answering. Sometimes I think I enjoy meditating so much because it is a time when no one is commanding me to do things. It is peaceful and I am not trying to do anything special.
I love the title. “Working On Stuff”. I know that everything I go thru is to let me learn something. To grow. Sometimes, I think that I am an awful person. Have many regrets. And other times, I believe that I am not so bad as others. But, we can not compare ourselves to others. They have their way or path. And I have mine. Buddha might have mentioned somethings about birth, death and rebirth. Rebirth, I would be given another chance to do things right or screw things up again. Who doesn’t want a second chance? So, not so much in a hurry to become Buddha like.
I think about the cycle of life. My grandfather had my father and my father had me. I have my daughter. Grandfather passed, my father passed and soon my time will come. What ever mattered to me will be lost when this body passes away. All the memories, love, joy, values, and everything. May happen sooner due to dementia. The next generation builds their own life and the cycle continues.
Sorry for my rant. Too long please don’t read. Have a good life or at least try to be happy. In the end it is all we have and all we can leave behind for those we love.
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