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Hi Crystal,
I can feel that you’re going through a very tough time right now. Without clear communication on his part, you are left to wonder about the “what ifs”. Am I correct? You are torn not knowing whether you two will remain as a couple or separate. To be honest, neither I nor anybody else here can tell you whether he was letting you down easy. I think it’s a bit of an assumption on your part as well, but it is a plausible assumption given your situation. Just remember, we can’t read the other person’s mind and we don’t know what is going through his right now. Of course, you have invested a lot in this relationship, but worrying too much will make things more difficult. I am not telling you not to worry, just be aware of all of the outcomes that may come from your situation and accept that anything is possible.
The only thing we can do is control our own thoughts and actions, but we can’t control others. Just remember that no matter what happens, you will be OKAY in the end. Things will work out for the best, whatever that may be. For now, the best thing is to let things settle in. Do things that you enjoy and be gentle with yourself.
AnnieParticipantBTW – Anita, if you are still reading, I thought you would like to know that I have gone in search of the “what happened”.
AnnieParticipantHi Glet,
I was reading your other post where you wrote about breaking up with your boyfriend. There was one thing in specific that stood out to me. You wrote “he always does the right thing..takes the right direction decisions..i fell in love with his maturity and his ability to stay calm all times.”
I am sure he is a very calm and mature person. What you should also know is that being able to be vulnerable is a HUGE strength in life and in love. To be open and talk about your emotions even knowing that you might get hurt is such a big deal. So many people are lonely, hurting, afraid, but they don’t want to open up and talk about it. They feel as if they will be rejected or looked down upon for having feelings. Having feels is very normal. What’s even better than that is having an healthy was to voice those emotions. What I have found is that people who appear to be calm and mature at all times are very tense and anxious. They feel so conflicted and want to say what they are feeling, but they are afraid. They have been taught from a very young age (usually by a parent or guardian or sibling) that it not okay to express emotions. Sometimes parents punish their children for crying or talking about emotional subjects because they can not or do not want to deal with them. Did he have a difficult childhood? A parent who might be strict and lash out? That may be possible.
From what you wrote in this post, it seems as if you were going through a lot with your studies alone. If you want to be able to accept love and be able to truly trust, then you will have to love yourself and let go of control. Could it be that you are afraid that he is loving you regardless of your insecurities? You are afraid that he might leave you so you left him? To be honest, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Unfortunately, we can not control the the events of the world, but we can control how we react to them. Sometimes we can just made decisions for ourselves and trust that everything will work out in the end. Sometimes partners can even feel helpless when they try so hard to make one partner happy, but can’t. He may feel like he failed and you may feel like you failed because of insecurities etc. When you love yourself, you will be confident that your partner also loves and accepts you for who you are. Letting go of control will also allow you to relax a little bit knowing that anything is possible and that we just have to trust and take things one day at a time. What do you say?
What can you do to make yourself feel loved? Look deep inside yourself and think back to when someone said something or made you feel badly about yourself. That is where our deepest insecurities come from. Only you can validate yourself throughout life because people will come and go. When you learn to love, you will not be afraid of the “what ifs” just the “what is” in the present.
AnnieParticipantHi Jeena,
You must be going through such a tough time. I see that you’ve made a really deep connection with somebody online. Feelings are feelings whether they’re online or not. I think you need to answer this question for yourself though rather than asking here. Ultimately, what you think to be true is what is correct, but it’s always okay to ask others for advice and should be treated like a grain of salt in a bigger picture. I nor any other user on TB know details of this individual personally. Do you think “it’s” real if you haven’t met this person? If the feelings weren’t there and you didn’t feel so conflicted would you be on an online forum asking questions? Is the “it” you’re speaking of your feelings or the bond/relationship that you have formed with this person?
There may be many different reasons for the way this person is behaving. I will give advice based on my life experience and what i’ve heard/read about others. Usually when a guy/girl is being secretive that way they are hiding a secret. The fact that he is okay with speaking all the time, but doesn’t want to show himself to you on Skype or in person means that there is something he does not want to reveal. Have you seen him on camera before? What i’ve learned is that actions speak louder than words. Just because he speaks to you and is protective online does not mean he is willing to commit or go any further as he has already denied meeting in person.
In essence with that, he “claims” to be single. Do you know how old he is? Roughly speaking, he may be married with children or even have a girlfriend. He may be embarrassed about his appearance because it may not be exactly as he described to you online. He may have a stutter or something else he is embarrassed about. Who knows? What we do know is that he does not respect you because he does not consider your feelings. If he respected/cared for you then he would either tell you that he is not interested in pursuing a relationship/friendship apart from the internet or he would tell you a very clear cut reason as to why he can not meet you in person. It seems as if he has come up with an excuse that he “can’t” meet you. That may be very well true, but why can he not meet you? Anybody can do anything they want and when someone likes someone they will do anything they can to spend time with that person. He might also just be immature or have a real issue that he is uncomfortable sharing.
You seem like a very nice person and I’m guessing you’re a woman (hopefully correctly). Although he has done a lot of online communication and conversation for him it may have only been friendly or even a way to escape a troubled/ lacking relationship. It seems as if he just wants to keep things the way they are. Now, ask yourself if that is enough for you? It seems as if you are unhappy with this situation and quite conflicted (am I correct?) , do you think you can continue on knowing that this may never develop into anything in person? Is it worth it? Is it worth suppressing your emotions/feelings for someone or better to have a relationship in person where you can really get to know they physically and emotionally?
If you are still conflicted in what you need to do and want to try again then I suggest talking to him and letting him know how you feel very directly. Then, set up a small amount of time maybe 2 – 3 weeks and see if things change and he agrees to take things forwards. I do want to say that if he feels you pulling away, he may say anything and promise to “change” or “try” when he really will just go back to the way things were. If things don’t change after said amount of time, free yourself and open up space for someone else to come in. Someone who is willing and can give you what you need.
- This reply was modified 9 years, 3 months ago by Annie.
August 12, 2015 at 9:34 pm in reply to: I found my dream job but I have to be strong enough to let it go… #81739AnnieParticipantHi redemptionsong, I’m sorry you’re going through such a hard time. It must be so difficult for you to balance work and a family apart from issues with work. You should be very proud of yourself for getting through graduate school while taking care of your children. Just so we’re on the same page, what you’re saying here is that you loved your job, but you were removed from the position because of budget cuts? You had the opportunity to apply to a different position, but another friend also wanted that position. Your friend applied and she got the position because she had more seniority in your work place.
What you wrote above was, “A friend at work asked about it. She wanted to know if I planned to stay. She had heard a rumor that the other teacher was leaving. I did not confirm or deny it, but said I was just waiting to see what happened.” It seems as if you also held out on telling your friend the truth. Maybe you didn’t want her to apply for the position and create more competition keeping your personal interests in mind? Unfortunately, things were never in your control from the beginning. In life, we make decisions for ourselves, but everything else is out of our control. This is where we have to learn to accept whatever happens. Acceptance is the first thing to free yourself. Knowing that you did not have control over the outcome and there was nothing you could have done differently. If there was a teacher who was more superior than her, then she would have received the position rather than your friend. You also said that this was your “dream job.” Could it be that your overall dream is to teach, but that place just happens to be nice and familiar? Do you think you would enjoy teaching at a new location?
You did not mention the job to your co-worker just as she did not mention to you that she was applying as well. Do you think that she may have felt betrayed by that? Do you think you feel betrayed because she was your friend and kept you in the dark or that she got the position and you did not? It is completely fine to be angry and upset. It seems as if you have already tried to see her from a different angle. You acknowledged that she too is a mother and provider for her family. It’s great that you want to be the bigger person. That alone means that you are empathetic and will be much happier in life, which means that you have won by default.
- This reply was modified 9 years, 3 months ago by Annie.
AnnieParticipantHello Inky,
Hmm, I am not sure if fencing is for me, but if I ever get the opportunity in life then I will definitely try it out. Wow, now boxing sounds awesome. That is something I would definitely love to learn. I will look into it and see if there is anywhere I can learn for cheap. You are right, finding something that I love may definitely help me stick to it. I also have a tendency to give up once i’m not doing well. I got pretty far this year, but to be more realistic I was up against people who have been athletic their whole lives and it just isn’t the same. Must find something at my level/ beginner.
Hi Stephen, I’m glad you found something and it opened up other possibilities for you. You sound to be doing very well. Beer guts are not the most attractive, at least to me. Haha I run here and there, but haven’t been near a gym recently. I would love to try rock climbing. I know there are kiddy places with rock walls and stuff where I can start. Other than that, It will be a bit more difficult to find places/ people to climb with.
AnnieParticipantHello Anita,
That’s okay, I recently assumed something about someone and it was also wrong. Just human nature. I’m glad that i’ve learned to get out of toxic situations quickly so that they don’t effect me as much. That way I can get away and have time to process those emotions rather than let them build up. It is horrendous, but we can only change ourselves. I have read about your relationship with your mother and I really appreciate your contribution to my posts because I feel like we come from a similar place. I was writing to another member of TB and found that when the people closest to us (parents, siblings, relative) criticize us and always keep us at arms length, we develop insecurity and trust issues. For a long time I stayed in an abusive relationship because I thought it was normal. I thought that it was okay to ignore someone, that it must somehow be my fault that I was being ignored because I was asking for too much attention or time together. It took a lot of abuse for me to walk away and even though my situation was bad, I was resilient and didn’t want to give up. Sometimes our biggest strength can be a weakness. I did learn how to walk away and deal with my emotions on my own. Thank you Anita.
AnnieParticipantHello again Sann,
It’s very fortunate that you have been able to find humor in difficult situations as not many people can do that. You are worried that you will sound silly, so you are aware of the underlying feelings of why you are afraid to speak up. I definitely think that’s a great idea to find another social activity outside of work. To have something to relax besides work can change the environment and help you relate to others in ways other than work. Try to quiet the voice in your head. It’s okay to acknowledge that it’s there, but don’t let it control you. You have already started the process to become who you want to be by opening up little by little with your co-workers, so congratulations for that.
I definitely don’t think you are being sensitive. To have someone close to you like family talk negatively about you and mock you can be damaging to your self-esteem. The foundation for a healthy life/self comes from within our childhood and family where we are supposed to feel safe and secure to be who we want, but when we lack that sense of love and security we can’t develop a stable sense of self. We feel as if we can’t be ourselves because we will be criticized for the way we act or the things we say. However, you do not need to be like them and you don’t have to let those experiences make who you are. You have a mental awareness that mockery is wrong and is not the only way to communicate and that’s the first step towards becoming who you want to be. It is those people who really care about us that point out our mistakes while making sure to keep our feelings in consideration. We need others to tell us when we are in the wrong so that we can grow, but if we are criticized for something then it just makes us feel bad and we don’t learn from it.
AnnieParticipantHello again Taymor,
Wow, the similarities between our ex’s are surprising.The fact that you are trying is the most important thing. I’m very happy to see that i’m not the only person who is still compassionate even if the other partner is not. I think we are cut out for a partner who is more mature and is open in talking about their feelings. I can’t be in another relationship where the person is shy and shut off. As much as I like shy guys, a relationship needs two people and needs communication. I agree, I can’t date for a long time either. Your relationship was so much longer than mine. I think you deserve to be happy and free. Do all the things you enjoy.
I’m really sorry you have to stay in a place that makes you sad. It can be so difficult to relive the memories that are no longer there. I just avoid those places, but I might try embracing them and making new memories. I think it’s better to be single and alone than rather than alone and neglected in a relationship. Ah, being strangers. It’s so weird isn’t it? At what point do you pretend like nothing happened? hm.
You are very intuitive, I will take your advice and join a couple new clubs. Please do the same for yourself. It’s not a stretch AT ALL. Please come back at any time to check in or even if you just need a friend to talk to. I hope you will find some peace and feel free. Take care.
AnnieParticipantHi Taymor,
I am more than happy to share my words if it makes you feel any better. Try to find strength in your friends or come here when you are feeling upset, so that you can do well on finals. I totally screwed mine. It’s very sad when our dreams are broken. We are sad because we believe that our relationships had “potential” to be so much more and that we would achieve milestones together and that we will never be able to experience that. I really don’t like dating and prefer being in an exclusive relationship, so I understand your thoughts on marriage. Unfortunately, not everyone will share our thoughts and we can’t change how they feel. We may want to fix things, but we really can’t. We can work on ourselves and accepting things for what they are.
You are stronger than you know. If you want to reach out, then that’s up to you. If you can give yourself closure and don’t care to ask then that’s fine too. I understand where you are coming from. Is it the fact that you already tried asking him so many times why he wanted to end the relationship before you guys actually broke up and he didn’t say anything? It’s so frustrating – I know. You feel like you know this person, but on their end, they think they are protecting us by not telling us the truth. I support your decision in not reaching out to him.
I am doing a lot better and feeling really good, thanks for asking. It has been 3 months since our break up, but it was only 3-4 days ago that we spoke about why we broke up. He opened up and said some things about being stressed and anxious around me, but I know that isn’t the only reason. There are a lot of reasons, but I had to figure those out on my own by recalling events in the relationship. He told me that we could only be friends if I accepted that we would never be in a relationship ever again. I was sad and then I was mad that he never considered my feelings in any of our conversations. I always tell the truth and consider his feelings when we speak. Even after so much happened, I was still understanding and patient with the way he treated me. At times I am upset that I let myself go through that, but at the end of the day I am a better person and I will eventually meet someone who is compassionate the way I am. I asked him not to write to me anymore, but I will be seeing him at school in a week or so. How are you doing? What have you been doing to stay busy? Where is your ex now?
- This reply was modified 9 years, 3 months ago by Annie.
AnnieParticipantHi Shfran, if you don’t know then you may also use this thread and see if there is anything you would enjoy doing. You can try as many things as you want until you find something that relaxes you.
AnnieParticipantHello Taymor,
I’m sorry you’re going through this difficult time. Since you are in university I am guessing your ex boyfriend is not much older than you, correct? I can relate to how you may be feeling, even though I am further a long in the healing process as much more time has passed since my last relationship ended. What I can tell you is that it’s okay to be upset and feel what you’re feeling. It will be really hard to stay focused and do well in school sometimes. When you need to get work done, then get work done. When you need a break to process feelings – process those feelings and don’t push them away otherwise they will only build up.
For now, as you have already said, the closure will have to come from you. My ex sounds very similar to yours as he didn’t want to initiate the break up, but started distancing himself and saying he didn’t want to be in a relationship anymore. Most men deal with things differently than women do. I’ve heard this before: “I don’t know what’s wrong with me or how to fix it” and would then promise to work on it. In these cases the individual already has one foot out of the door and thinks they can hold onto the relationship, when they really want to give up. They push their feelings aside and dive into their work and focus on other things. They only deal with one thing at a time and can easily distract themselves. Women/girls tend to ruminate more and are more likely to take longer to process their emotions. On the plus side, women have friends with whom they can talk to about their relationship and they are more willing to look outwards for help/ support. Let time go by and focus on your work, new activities and try to enjoy what is left of your university time. Luckily, I was able to process my feelings just a few weeks before the semester ended (I am in college as well). After time has gone by and you are feeling better then you can reach out and ask him whatever questions/grievances you might have had. Of course everyone processes feelings in their own way. What was really freeing for me was the tell my ex boyfriend about all of the times that he hurt me in the relationship when he was distancing himself. Whatever it is that keeps you tied to the relationship you can ask about. If he still doesn’t give you a clear answer, then the best thing would just be to let it go.
It’s important to note that most young people especially in their university years and much after do not have long term relationships for many reasons. Although some relationships last, the divorce rate is very high in young couples because there are so many changes occurring in those people’s lives. For example, there are things such as experience, life circumstances, familial circumstances, needs, priorities, desires, and feelings that change. What may help is to think of all the time you have to work on yourself now. Eventually you will meet the right person. Not all relationships are meant to last, some are just there for us to learn, but that doesn’t mean we can’t grieve them.
AnnieParticipantHello Bren,
I really love helping others, so I answer posts on TB and other online forums. I’m surprised to find how many other people avoid social media. I enjoy reading, taking walks, nature,reading jokes, watching comedy videos, watching a favorite show, taking a bath, listening to music, and swimming/exercising.
AnnieParticipantHello again Anita,
You are correct in your observation that I find other things to distract myself from the problems in my home. I don’t recall seeing a response from you. I may have missed it. I will be going back to school soon and hopefully can begin to have a solid financial situation so that I won’t have to move back in with my family once summer comes. Thank you
AnnieParticipantHello Sann,
I too believe that humor is an important part of life. Of course, bad things happen to everyone once in a while. Finding humor in those situations can be very freeing. From what you’ve written, it seems as if you are trying to be more humorous. Am I right in my understanding? You believe that it’s IMPORTANT to be humorous and you are not. I think that you may be limiting yourself by saying you “don’t know if you have much sense of humor”. I also think that trying really hard to be humorous may be causing you to be more shy because you feel like you can’t. What I mean is that you will analyze a situation to see where you can come up with humor.There are no rules for what is considered to be a “real” sense of humor. Yes, many comedians play on criticism and putting down others, but that is not the only way to be funny. Being humorous is whatever you want it to be. I usually tell other people that I tell a lot of jokes and nobody laughs. However, I do make others laugh quite a bit. Besides, as I said before, humor is relative and what you find humorous may not be humorous to the next person. I think many humorous people are just easy going and can find humor at random times in situations where others may not see it.
You wrote”Actually i don’t know if i have much sense of humor. I am in general very tensed and serious and worry too much.”
Is it possible that you are worried about what people might think if you tried to share your humor? That they might not find you humorous or think that you are foolish? Do you fear that they might judge you for your appearance or for your intelligence? Maybe you should challenge the underlying feelings of why you tense up in these situations. I read a wonderful article on TB about social anxiety. Not everything may relate to what you’ve written, but there are definitely parts that may be helpful to you. http://dev.tinybuddha.com/blog/6-ways-to-free-yourself-from-social-anxiety-and-shyness/- This reply was modified 9 years, 3 months ago by Annie.
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