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MattParticipant
Todzilla,
Wow, you’re really working through it… exploring such rich and fertile fields! Great work! Todd, it seems to me you’re looking at shame, or the feeling of fear that we don’t have connection, don’t deserve love. I wrestled with this, a lot, and though it sometimes still cankers, I’ve put my mother and father issues to rest. Come to know I am lovable, as is, root to crown, wholly. The shame arises from too much dwelling on where you’ve done wrong, and not growing your curious hope. We have to come to accept that other people’s energy doesn’t have anything to do with us, not really. They have a whole life going on over there, and don’t always have the space to be loving. They get caught up in shit, just like us. But beneath the rising and falling, as a continutity of warmth and intention, is a heart that has been trying to show you that you’re loved. But when it shines, it hits painful things, your leaves get kicked up, not trusting there’s love behind the packaging.
And so you perhaps attack the packaging, instead of reaching through it. Accept the thorns as her imperfect way of loving you, and they stop hurting. For instance, she said “explore your relationship with your ma”, and it was “ouch, why is this on me?”. Rather than “perhaps her heart song is saying exactly what I need to hear, for whatever reasons, packaging forgiven. On both sides, sometimes bumbling, sometimes brilliant, a partnership of love, exploring the world together.” The later “opens up” as the shame is set down.
To ditch the shame, we have to find compassion for ourselves, or the space to see how we really are. To open up the closed fist, and let our past settle and flutter off into history. With your mom, for instance, notice how her mysterious emotional states really bothered you. Heart, full of hope, and here she comes “oooh, maybe love this time” but nope, she’s something different, and painful.
As a side note, sort of, last night I was resting with these ideas, of how my mom left me with a sense of redemption, as though I somehow had to work off my “failures” in order to be loved. My mom would lash and lash for an error, or brag and brag to all her friends for an exceptional accomplishment. I was in a meditation, resting in “yep, ha, she didn’t know she was loved either” surprised melancholy, space to shrug and let it go. Right then, my mom called me, asking me to fix her printer over the phone. Which I couldn’t. Now, she didn’t say i was bad… she just demanded i help her, and when i couldn’t, described just how horrible it would be for her in 30 minutes if her printer didn’t start working, then hung up. I laughed. I couldn’t help it. I tried to help, but the conditions prevented me from doing anything more. I just couldn’t fix it, didn’t have the knowledge needed. But I also am not supposed to. Like when I messed up the alphabet, in front of a friend of hers, and afterward she would tell me I knew it, why didn’t I care enough to try to be correct. Hahahaha. I said a prayer that her situation resolve with grace, and moved on. Her emotions are her issue, not mine. Some regret that I couldn’t do more, but her “chicken little” tantrum was not of my making.
But what is important, is to set down the gavel of judgment. Like me, deciding “how dare she be like that to me”, or resentment that I gave love and she gave tantrum. Don’t get mad or pushy just because a lioness is roaring in pain, brother. They have their thorns too, the world often seems cold and unforgiving. Which you know, right?
So toss aside the gavel and approach love in a new direction. Consider that love is a continuity, but the warmth only blossoms when there is the space for it. Trust, on both sides, to express the heartfelt whispers, and to receive what flickers in the candlelight. It flows. When the trust is bent, or broken, on either side, the warmth often flickers out. So, of her tender warmth has flickered out, its your job to take the glimmer of warmth in your own chest, and help her rekindle her own. If she’s mad, offer comfort. Even if she’s mad at you. Let the thorny part of it pass right through. “I’m coming for you, my queen!” And reach again and again with heart. You say you love her a lot, and I say bah. Your heart is barely dripping, compared to the flood that’s available. And its your job, your main job, to bring rain. Why? Because that’s what you want. 🙂
Your question wasn’t “how do I divorce my wife, move on”, or “how to I juggle a mistress and a wife” or “how do I make more money”, it was “how do I reconnect with my wife?” When you ask her, she’s like “not sure, buddy, try these.” And she’s right, settling and resolving that stuff will help. Like removing stones from a backpack, the pressure behind the anger and other emotions. But there is much to be said to approaching your dance with her like an epic love poem you’re writing alongside her, to set her world to sparkle and glow with grace and wonder. Help her see that she’s a Queen, and she’ll see her King again. Its not something you have to “earn”, its just something you have to grow. Its in your hands, ya know? If she’s not melting at your touch, try again! Not all seeds blossom, but for us intrepid wanderers that plant many hopeful seeds, grace becomes a respected friend. Show her the many ways you love her, and she’ll swoon. She wants too, you can count on that. 🙂
Consider emailing me at tinybuddhamatt@gmail.com if you’d like to know more about couples energy healing. I don’t know if you’re still shopping for a therapeutic approach, but if you’d like to hear more, send me an email and we can discuss details. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantTodzilla,
What a wonderful opportunity to see how pointless and self sabotaging anger is. All this commotion from such an odd thing, some attachment that stings her, bustles her all up. My guess is she feels ashamed for her practice, and is defending against your “attack” on her credibility. Rather than just “oops, yeah, thanks, much better now”. How very normal of her, how very natural. Reminds me of Toddzilla a little. 🙂 Different faces, of course.
The solution, perhaps, is to help her see how you’re trying to help her fix one of the oars on her boat, not challenging her captain skills. Doing your job to tighten the ship, but not judging her own skillful understanding in her areas of expertise. Remember, her feelings aren’t about the laptop itself, anymore than your feelings of anger at your wife when she walks away from you has to do with the shape of her backside. Its symbolic of something, or it would just be a butt. Or a laptop. See?
And its a win win, because even if you can’t get through to her, seeing past the anger will be good for you. Learning to be kind to a friend caught in a frenzy does a lot to help us see how we can give the same friendliness to ourselves when we frenzy. Ie, forgive our own anger and be free of it. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantDream,
In addition to the other kind words, consider that he doesn’t deserve better than you, he deserves exactly you. Even as screwed up as you think you are, he is the same. That’s part of what drew you two together. You’re both a huge pain in the butt, and both magnificent.
Consider that you have a huge, big, open heart, and love him perhaps a little more than you love yourself. So, he farts, no biggie. You fart, OMG. He stumbles, and “how cute”. You stumble, and “what a stupid clutz”. Over time, too much of this weighs the heart, until it doesn’t even know why such a wonderful man would be with such a disaster of a woman. Don’t be fooled, friend, even your disasters are beautiful, and the only reason his errors slide right by is because you have such a fond affection for him. Lend yourself some of that light hearted acceptance, you need it too!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantB.B.
A few things came to heart as I read your words. The first is that you can’t help someone that isn’t prepared to be helped. Their hand has to be reaching out already, they have to be sick and bored of their swamp. Convincing her to reach out won’t help her long term, it has to blossom from within her.
When/if she does reach out, don’t do the work for her. Don’t go shopping for her, don’t do the research for her, don’t give solutions to her. Instead, offer to explore with her. Shopping together, perhaps. Not telling her “try going for a walk someday” or “you should do yoga”, and instead “let’s get outta here, go see a forest”. Etc. A cheerleader, not a savior. Willing/enthusiastic/gracious to walk alongside her, but not take steps for her. She perhaps needs those leg muscles to stretch and strengthen.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMaverick,
It probably means she is confused about who she is and what she likes, but knows that at least for now, she needs space. Like “I don’t know what the whole ocean looks like, but right now, I’m drowning and need air.” Are you recovering from an addiction? It may be a good time to take a deep breath and look around, find what healthy options there are that make Maverick happy. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSapna,
Its good to hear from you, and I’m sorry its uncomfortable over there. This whole Sapna family prophecy stuff is hogwash… even though it can feel “carved in”, its still only a habit that can be abandoned, and healed. Its not permanent, inherent, or destined… its more like an accent. Consider a different view. You broke free. Had to fly away, move away, but you did it! Now, of course, there is the hermit, the cave where we go to learn self reliance. Don’t despair, dear sister, you’re stronger than you think, and we all need help from time to time. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
Consider how its good that you didn’t get to just cycle into another relationship. Really, sis, its important to feel OK alone. And here you are, in a far off land, surrounded by lots of new and interesting places to explore. I have a close friend that went to Ireland to find himself, and by and large he did. Old energy there, and festive. 🙂 The whole “relationship maze” becomes a lot easier when we find our own heartsong (such as befriending yourself, instead of judging) learning to treat ourselves more kindly, and so on. Sometimes the best way to untangle a knot is to step away, rekindle our own light, and regroup. That’s why the hermit goes into the cave… to get some space between herself and the situation, find her lightness of step.
Said differently, consider dropping the maze, sis, and go explore. Go find some old trees and give them a hug. 🙂 The answers your heart seeks are perhaps found more easily in nature than in people. Especially with codependency habits lurking. Take a break, breathe, give it some time. Sapna the Bold, off on her greatest adventure!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSteve,
You do contribute, friend. More important than bringing any “special wisdom” or whatnot, bringing what you have is always what’s needed. Even when its problems you need help with! Consider that you have the courage to say what is there for you, what you’re looking at. You’re not the only one looking at those things, so as you express even your confusion or need for help, it helps others feel less alone.
Consider, for instance, how many others may read these threads and feel like they can’t contribute something meaningful. You bring it up, with courage, and right off help them feel less alone. And, the community grows a little brighter… even though it was a question, not an answer! And then, it also opens a road for those that have worked through a similar discontent to respond with their ideas! See? There is only contribution. Great work! 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantTrevor,
My teacher noted that expectation is more of a result, a fruit. The problem isn’t expectation, its grasping. But even that is more like an ignorant habit than evil. For instance, in your post perhaps you have an expectation of some answer satisfying you, bringing a sense of comfort or stable ground. But it doesn’t, and not because expectations aren’t being met (ironically, your expectations are being met, your mental energy completes pictures, fills in gaps to make things fit what you believe to be true), but rather from “jumping onto” the restless grasping for some idea to bring peace.
When we can sit with our restlessness, it goes away. Then the questions you pose produce laughter, not hopelessness. A cosmic comedy, not a tragedy. Yep, a snake eating its own tale… and here we are, restlessly looking for something we inherently are. Hahahahaha.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipant🙂
MattParticipantIt sounds to me like she is just now coming into her prime. That sadness is great, grieving the lost moments, in hindsight so clear, it allows you both to open to the beautiful day you have today. The tears dry, and there you two are, hand in hand.
Consider, if she had stayed, you may very well have been posting today about how much you hate your wife, how she stopped you from sewing your oats, how she prevented you from being free. Instead…
MattParticipantKatie,
That’s an interesting one, and I think you’re right on target with the notion that the more present both are, the more knowing really grows. Consider when we bake an apple pie, there is a lot of work that goes into it. Peeling, slicing, spicing, rolling dough, baking. During all of that, we might feel stress. Burn our arm, nick a fingernail, drop a pie plate on our toe. Any number of little trips. When we serve the pie, what do we want our loved one to know? The pie or the journey of making the pie? If we tell them all the parts that go into creating the pie, perhaps they’ll be thinking about that, rather than simply enjoying the pie. If the baker lets go, just gives them the pie, and rests openly as the pie is eaten, then the resulting smiling of both baker and (eater?) makes the journey insignificant, unstaining. Who remembers the nicks and singes when there is chewing and singing?
Said differently, consider that the Katie that was at work is already dead and moved on by the time she gets home. Are you really defined by the gossipy whathaveyous of who said what to whom? If you were injured, or something else more troubling than some random “wind through the trees”, that would be different. My teacher noted that we don’t try to turn molehills into mountains, such as regurgitating the moot to try to be better known, painting our pain so they know what we’ve been through. But we also don’t try to turn mountains into molehills, such as not talking about what is important. Knowing the difference, and where those lines are, is personal for all of us. Said differently, if you wish to be known, draw attention to what is in front of him, rather than what is behind you. You’re already right there!
In a practical example, consider “wow, all day I was wearing tight shoes, and every step brought discomfort. I walked to the store, and ouch the whole way. I walked to the office, and ouch the whole way. Then, my boss asked me to go back to the conference room and lead the discussion, and the whole time I was standing my feet were mad at me. Then, the co-worker asked me to run across the whole office to…” etc. Instead of “my feet hurt, would you rub them?” Does he need to know the why? Does it change anything?
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantTodzilla,
Even the most loving lioness roars when a thorn is in her paw. Her motive is the same as it always is, she’s trying to find happiness. Said differently, there is a big, huge, difference between having afflictive motives, and trying not to take ownership of her own thoughts, feelings, and actions. “I hit you from love, I swear it” is garbage of course, but it doesn’t mean she wants to hit you, perhaps is afraid that if she exposes her imperfection, you’ll do terrible things with it. How much fun would you have, for instance, were she to say to you she lashed out in anger. “I knew it, you have bad motives!” Rather than “of course, my love, your anger makes sense, come to my arms and find comfort”.
I don’t know about good Buddhists, but perhaps letting go might be “set aside your fear that she intends harm”. It seems more like she is afraid herself, perhaps that you don’t love the real her, warts and all. So she tries to hide them, and can’t.
You’re right to notice she doesn’t fight fair… but consider that you perhaps seem much stronger than she feels, and so any tool to do the needed job. Like, Toddzilla looms over her, and she kicks at your balls. Perhaps the lesson is less looming? Less “trying to ferret out the truth”, and more “invite her to love you.”
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantTodzilla,
She sees symmetry in your struggles? What is she wrestling with? Where is she at? If she has lack of compassion, what is going on for her that collapses that spacious warmth?
You’re speaking as though to let go of your side and be there for her, is somehow self sacrifice. As though Todd will be lost as he scrapes and serves her. That’s not compassion, either. That’s “Todd being so caught up in Todd that he doesn’t have space to see where she’s really at.”
Consider that “withholding intimacy” is your side. Her side is perhaps “not in the mood” or “not feeling it”. “Wanting to control” is your side. Her side is perhaps “looking for stable ground”.
The most troublesome is this “auditioning to be her husband” quality. Because you two are married, do you feel you have some type of rights? Perhaps you have been taking something for granted that you should have been honoring all along. Assuming you “got the part”, “have that in the bag”, and so stepped away from wooing her. Said differently, each moment is an audition, a chance to show her what you’re made of. Are you an angry son-of-a-bitch? Are you really so blind that you think she doesn’t know how mad you are? If you can unclench your mind around this notion “I’m not being heard, how unjust!” then perhaps you could see how you’re not hearing her, either, and in your anger, your strong urges to be seen, heard, and loved, are judging her need for recalibration as manipulative and unjust. Its her need, friend, and she is right to take a stand.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantLorraine,
In my opinion, the best way to deal with that is to wish them well on their journey, no matter where they go or don’t go, do or don’t do. May their day be bright, whether or not they like or ignore or hate what we say. Why let their actions bruise our own heart?
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantDan,
The counselor sounds wise to me, the memories won’t necessarily go away, but the way you relate to them is changing. That’s what the forgiveness does, it opens up a place for the old icky feelings to go, such as the years of hate still tied into memories meeting up with your open heart and dissolving. Then, memories, but with peace.
As far as hanging onto the anger, wanting to keep some of it, that makes sense too. Its like we wish to honor ourselves by holding onto the anger… keeping the injustice of it all fresh, real. This is silly though, like wanting to keep a broken leg so we can remember that guy that kicked us. The anger doesn’t do anything productive, it just feels painful, so why bother? Be free of it, in my opinion, turn away from it, hug it, laugh at it, whatever… but don’t dwell. Let the leg heal, anger fade, and you’ll still remember, still be alert, but you just won’t limp. 🙂
Breakdancing, huh? That sounds unusual and awesome. Bravo!
With warmth,
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