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MattParticipant
Marie,
I’m sorry for the confusion and insecurity you’re suffering with, and can understand why you have doubt. Sometimes when we are insecure, we could be standing in a garden and never really see it, because we’re scared to let it in. Said differently, in the presence of your doubt, perhaps you push his love away, push him away. Even unintentionally, this can be difficult for an intimacy. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
Consider that “better catch” is perhaps a strange and unnecessary comparison. It makes sense that its there, but give yourself a little credit! You’re smart, devoted, articulate, a loving mom… and you have his heart! That other woman may have seemed to be the one, but when we’re young we’re just figuring our who we are and what we want. For instance, he was sharing his heratsong with both of you (which is normal… you did the same) as he figured out what he wanted. Said differently, just because he was unsure and uncommitted before doesn’t mean that he regrets the commitment he made. With the songs he shared with both of you… that is the same kind of thing. He was sharing the art that sung to his heart, and he wanted to share with both of you. Perhaps you heard it more clearly? It doesn’t mean that its less special, rather it just means he was uncertain. However, those songs were clearly special to you too, which is a great sign of the connection between your hearts. Said differently, perhaps if you see the song as “he shared it with me, which made it special” then it is natural to feel cheapened when you find out that he shared it with another. However, if you see “when he heard the song, it sang to his heart. When he shared it with me, the song also sang to my heart” then you can perhaps see why you two click so well.
Finally, there is often a cooling off after marriage and kids (especially with them so close together). It doesn’t mean that he adores you less… consider that there is a lot of change and growing going on, which can leave us a little tired. If you miss his heartsong, perhaps you could get a sitter and stir up a little romance? Consider that intimacy is a two way street, and if its cooled for you, perhaps its cooled for him as well! He may be missing it just as much or even more than you! Often when we are insecure, the playful spirirt inside us gets too scared to come out and play. He yearns for that goddess… if you just accept the fear, find your courage, and pounce, you may be quite surprised at the result. Namaste, sister, may you find your openness and joy.
With warmth,
MattWith warmth,
MattMattParticipantAmber,
In addition to Jade’s amusing and pertinent vending machine analogy, consider that its not that you “couldn’t” love him… you didn’t. That’s fine, enough and more than OK. Both of you deserve to find and connect with a partner that makes your heart and body sing. Its normal to feel some guilt… because you do care about him and his feelings. However, you actually did him a kindness… its better now than later. Let him find someone who looks at him with softer eyes than you did. When you find a man you do love, you won’t have to wonder or try… it will just be there!
All that being said… some of the points you made smell a little like judgment. Smarter, ambitious… its normal to notice differences and want something more similar. Its quite another to think less of someone because of their unique qualities! For instance, with “smart”, there are a lot of different kinds of intelligence. Analytic, social, kinesthetic, and emotional to name a few… and most people have strengths and weaknesses in various areas. For ambition… perhaps he doesn’t have as much ambition in “career”, but it does sound like he had a lot of social ambition (such as the numerous gifts and nice actions toward you). We’re all different, and our own hearts become stronger and warmer when we honor those differences, rather than rank them! 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMichelle,
I can understand why it is perplexing, and how your past experiences fill the void with all sorts of stories as to what he is doing and why. With the relationship being so new, it is very usual to have questions and difficulties with boundaries. Its not abnormal for one or both partners to take a little space away… rather, it seems quite healthy. Much like being in a “man cave”, him being alone is a chance for him to relax, kick back, fart, scratch, and let go. I think a much more interesting mystery to examine is why your mind paints the time with fear. Said differently, unless there are other indications of infidelity or emotional distance, perhaps his taking some space is a great time for you to also let go of the mental stories that play out, and have a fun girls night.
This helps Tuesday become a refreshed meeting of hearts, rather than Monday being a challenge to your sense of security. Said differently, when you settle the fear that he is doing something which harms the relationship, the time away will actually help the intimacy become stronger. Its not healthy to “lose ourselves” in a relationship, and a little time away to breathe can help make sure that doesn’t happen!
Namaste, sister. May you find peace and joy.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSandy,
I’m sorry for the loneliness you’re experiencing, and can understand the heartfelt yearning to hold another and be held. I wonder, do you nurture yourself often enough? Sometimes when we feel that deep need to hug and cuddle, it arises because we associate that time with warmth, pausing, breathing and feeling secure. When we are alone, often we ignore that gentleness, even though we have it within us, we don’t pause. We just run run run, either to the next task, idea, or enetertainiment.
However, dear sister Sandy, it is important to continue to touch on the warm tender compassion within your heart even when you’re alone. This reminds your body that it has never been alone… it has always been tended by a beautiful woman who has guided it without pause. Said differently, remember that you are deserving of your own hugs!
*hug*
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantCharli,
I am really impressed by how directly you are regarding yourself, and how wisely you’re approaching your fog. I know it seems dark and foreboding, trying to answer that questions “who am I” “where do I find happiness” and “what do I do now?” However, almost every seeker and dancer along the path of joy encounters that exact knot. Many of us crumple under its weight, as we realize that we have absolutely no clue what we are doing here, how to find genuine nourishment, or what to do with ourselves. Don’t despair, dear sister, there is always a path to joy. And the good news is you’re already on it!
That being said, it really doesn’t help much to know that conceptually, because here and now you’re starving. Said differently, the farmer with no food is not comforted much in the spring knowing that in the fall, if the rain and earth cooperate, there will be a harvest. So here and now, the goal is to find food… not in some “where do I take my life” type of way, but “bring warmth into this body, here, now, please”.
For this, you can perform acts of kindness toward yourself. Think short term, here and now… self nurturing actions. Perhaps you could take a bath with candles, or go for a walk in nature, to a museum, to a ballet… find some art and beauty, then do your best to let it in. See how the world expresses itself, naturally or through its artists and dreamers. Or, if you have interest in meditation, consider starting a metta meditation practice. Metta energy is very nourishing, fulfilling, and with some practice we can use our mind to generate it. Consider searching YouTube for “guided metta meditation” and within a few sessions you may be surprised at just how thin that fog can become when we hold within our bodies the light we’ve been seeking.
Namaste, dear sister. May your spark grow a flame that lights your way down the path of joy. Its easier than you think.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMaile,
When we can deeply embrace the impermanence of these emotions, there is magic to be found in the flavors they present to us. Consider that pain can push our mind into agitation, into running for escape, thinking that “this is permanent”. However, we know that it isn’t… pain arises when the conditions are there, and settles when the conditions are not. Said differently, “doing nothing” with it is exactly right… just breathe. When we are in emotional pain, it is not a good time to explore, it is a good time to rest, recharge, ground ourselves. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
The only difference between a panicked breakdown and a spiritual breakthrough is patience. If we can sit with the discomfort, say “this is discomfort” and breathe, and not let it push our mind into “this is what I am forever” or “what is causing this” and just breathe, then the causes reveal themselves. Ironically, often we run around the mind looking for causes and unintentionally scrape ourselves up even more. It is like a person in the kitchen who burns their hand, and instead of saying “yep, burn” hops up and down and bumps into the stove over and over. Said differently, you’re lonely. That’s enough. You know you feel lonely, and that is simple. It is some chemicals in the body, some patterns of thought. As you breathe, you can breathe in positive energy, and breathe out the loneliness… giving that moment over to only care directly for your body. The mind settles, and instead of “oh my god, I am so lonely, do I do this or that or should I try harder here or there, am I true to myself or am i being like her, am I destined to be lonely because of who in am and what I do, if only I could be more like her, or him, or myself… ” you can approach your need with patience. “What do I need? Where can I look?”
Next, there is no such thing as “The True Maile”. You’re constantly evolving, dear sister, and who you were two paragraphs ago is different than who you are now. That’s OK. Being true to ourselves isn’t trying to have a “genuine personality”… its in dropping that whole notion altogether. What do you want, what seems right, what does your wisdom and love reveal as the present moment is revealed through your senses. Our whole journey is sprinkled with innovations that we adopt… from “cool” people, from “wise” people, from “learned” people. There is no need to resist it, we learn to play with our life by dancing from form to form… holding close the wise and dropping the foolish.
Finally, sheesh girl! You take yourself far too seriously. Go play! This garden we live in is fertile, and sometimes we are too wise and spiritual for our own good. We forget the beauty, forget to sing, and instead slide inward and look for our issues. Said differently, your tangles have only the power you give them. Remember that!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSapna,
I’m so happy you had a wonderful experience in Ireland, and can understand the appeal to move there. Sometimes when our surroundings have dulled, such as the career and the romance here, a new horizon can seem refreshing and full of hope and beauty. A few things came to heart as in read your words.
From what I’ve read of your words before now, the main concern that pulses alongside the hope is becoming attached to that man. As though he holds some key to your joy, some aspect of yourself that eats richly from the energy he has to offer. This is not bad, per say, but it will never compare to the richness of your own heart feeding your spirit. Said differently, it is OK to love, dear sister, and to jump into the unknown based on the inspirations of the heart. But sapna, dear dreamer, keep your eyes open. In the past, you’ve closed them tight, ignored your inner beauty, and surrendered your power and happiness to the other. You’ve come so far from that, please do yourself the honor and hold close to the lessons you’ve learned.
From there, its only about what you want. Do you want to move to Dublin? Then do it! There is nothing holding you back. Do you want to try to form a deeper relationship with him? Then do it! If it doesn’t work out, it will feel shitty, but you know what that feels like, you’ve been through it before. Just be cautious, realistic about what you do and where you go. Chicago or Dublin, there is Sapna. With him or without him, there is Sapna. Always needing nourishment, needing to care for herself, keeping to Tue ideals she knows, being the light she wishes to see in the world. Don’t surrender that for him or Dublin, and you’ll be fine. It may or may not work out, and if you are prepared for that, to approach it gently, patiently, and continue the self care (even when he cares for you as well) then what do you have to lose? If you fall and attach like before, it’ll hurt like before. Does it feel different? Do you feel more aware? More wise? Is it worth the potential? If yes, why not jump in?
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantPaula,
I agree with the beautiful and heartfelt words from the others in the thread. I dearly hope you strongly consider Alanon or other codependency recovery programs especially… Pia Mellody has some wonderful books as well, step by step, very practical. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
You have such a good heart, and there is no reason for you to feel guilty. Consider that as you leave him, he will hopefully stop blaming you for his issues and finally grow. One of my teachers said that addicts stop growing/maturing when they fall into the addiction cycle, and if they get connected to a caregiver, they may never learn to stand. This blame he tosses at you is just like a temper tantrum kids have when they don’t get their way. Consider how much mental energy is spent on this man, and how little he does with it. Said differently, most of your post is about him, his actions, his words. What about you? Where are you? How do you feel? What are you seeing?
Consider that you’ve spent a lot of time on his side of the street in your relationship, and are still trying to figure out his side of things. There’s no need. Yes its a mess over there. No, you’re not in any condition to help skillfully. That’s enough. You have kids and yourself to worry about, to care for. He isn’t your task, dear sister, and it will only be when he confronts the ickyness inside him that he will heal. And it will only be when you stop taking the blame that he will see himself. Said differently, when you get sucked into his whirlwinds of ick, your presence only makes it worse for both of you. Its not only OK for you to let go and find your own path, it is actually the way to honor your love for him the most skillfully. I don’t mean this as fact, its only opinion from what I see.
And i do mean this with a deep and humble respect for your love and compassion. Its takes a very special food to reach the twisted knots within an addict, and quite often instead they latch on to givers, who sacrifice their own well being in the name of “helping” or “peace”. When we figure out our own feelings, desires and needs… that’s when the light of joy will flow through and around us, which is far better than playing his games… better for you, for him, for the kids and so forth. Namaste, may you find your love and light.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantGary,
I’ll certainly try! The idea of “soul” in Buddhism is generally regarded as “no abiding self” or “no individual soul”. Some interpret it as nothing beyond the physical, some as one energy field that isn’t individuated. It really depends on the person you’re asking. My personal view is that before and after death, our spirit is part of a whole. During our lives, that spirit is contained within us, and is itself unaltered. Much like liquid filling a cup is not changed in substance just because of the container, spirit is not changed by filling a body. To address the whole “cycles of lives” and increasing population, I see it as the number of cups expanding, so the net amount of spirit incarnating is increasing, but the river seems endless to me.
The reason this isnt something I spend much time looking at is because there are people all around us who are suffering, and I’d rather look at that. That’s a personal choice, but is also similar to what the Buddha chose. He (or one of his students, I forget off hand) described it like a house on fire. When you wake up and realize the house is on fire, you grab the most important things. Children, pets, memory boxes, etc. So when we develop spiritually, or cultivate our wisdom, perhaps we see that the world is full of suffering people… people missing the joy and beauty that is all around them, stuck in cycles of lamentation, hatred and delusion. My teacher described it like walking through a beautiful garden and jumping at shadows.
So some find it more helpful to aim there… pouring compassion and offering our attention in that direction, because “spirit or no spirit” is more acedemic. What to do with the time we have seems more important. How to cultivate stability. How to nourish ourselves and others. How to find mutual satisfaction. How to overcome habit. And so forth. Things that increase the light and love within the world… tangibly, directly. That’s not to say people who search for answers to soul-nosoul are wrong to do so… if their heart calls them to look, there is probably something for them to find there that will help them on their way.
Does that make more sense? If not, perhaps consider asking for clarity with a little more information about what it is that is confusing or you are curious about rather than just “try again?”. 🙂
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantGary,
If two people get together and love each other…
Just kidding of course. Consider that perhaps what you’re wondering is often answered by “soul ages” such as “new souls” and “old souls” and so forth. Perhaps its not just the bodies that reproduce. Buddha discouraged people from thinking of individual souls, however. It creates a habit of eternalism, which strengthens the perception of permanence. Past and future lives may be fun to fantasize about, but here and now has plenty to tend!
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSarah,
Thank you for such kind words, and I’m happy that we’ve connected too! Therapists aren’t necessarily good at therapy, unfortunately they’re imperfect beings too, and often have rigidness to the perceptions… especially if they’re not supplementing their therapy practice with a meditation practice. Too many carry a “diagnosis” view of people’s tangles. There are great ones out there, though, and im sorry you didnt find one. C’est la vie. A few quick things came to heart as I read your words.
From the way you describe your grief, it sounds like you do have a good handle on it. That being said, grief has a way of producing cycles in the mind. Said differently, when the painfulness of it overwhelms you, it can burst into all sorts of thoughts which can prolong the grief and turn it into a canker. Buddha taught that lamentation, or cyclical grief, was an unnecessary part of our experiences, and that breathing and awareness allows it to settle.
It reminds me of childbirth. Consider these moments that overwhelm you like contractions, where the mind and body tense up and squeeze. Even though at the peak of it, where pain is deep and vibrant, it seems like the moment is forever, and now we are just going to be in pain forever, the moment settles, the muscles relax, and we find some rest. As it happens, if you can just breathe through it, and instead of it producing ideas of failure, loss, and longing, just “this is the hard labor of letting go” and breathe. The mental and emotional outburst settles, and the pain of it subsides.
Another piece that came to mind was how you may consider the pain of it just, as though it honors your love to hold tight to the pain. After all, he’s your son, and you love him, so shouldn’t you be in a constant state of upheaval as he struggles with making his way? This is faulty thinking, because your pain clouds your mind and heart, making it about you, and so there is less space to make it about him. Said differently, when you can accept that its OK to let go of your grief, you can find that it actually honors your son, because you are using the loss and distance to produce a deeper spiritual awareness. This will make you a better person and mother, because when you are healed, your creativity, passion, love and compassion flow more freely, which will make your hugs to him more rich, full of genuine support, and rooted in clarity and health. Said differently, we are more skillful to others when we honor our bodies by letting the wounds heal, which benefits them much greater than “hanging on” to the pain.
Finally, in my estimation, the baby that you’re birthing is the vision of your son as an adult, in body if not yet in maturity. That’s an awkward transition for both of you, but was inevitable also. Its more painful because of the conditions that surrounded it, so make sure you give yourself extra nurturing as your mind and heart settle and grow. You deserve peace, and even though pain is inevitable, lamentation is optional, avoidable. Keep your heart strong, sister, it beats loud and brilliant.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantSarah,
I am sorry for the suffering you’re working through, and admire your courage in approaching this with curiosity and hope. Sometimes when we love someone, especially our children, it is difficult to see them stumble on their path. On one hand, we can see them making decisions and understand the way those decisions impact them more clearly than they do, but on the other, they are autonomous beings who have their own journies to make, their own path through the unknown to carve. A few things came to heart as I read your words.
Divorce is tricky for children as they come to realize their autonomy. It gives them a choice to escape the life they had in favor of a life they wish they had. Of course, it won’t work out like he dreamed it, but it allows them to recreate themselves by swapping parents. This is a mixed bag, because on one hand it helps them refresh their perspective… much like switching jobs or moving to a new country can do. A new set of rules, expectations, hopes, possibility. Einstein said that we cannot find solutions to problems by employing the same type of thinking that created the problem… and its possible that whatever exists in him can work itself out within the new environment, because you won’t be there to blame forever. Said differently, it sounds like he’s dissatisfied with who he is (as most teenagers are) and holds you accountable. This worked fine for him while you were in control, but now that he has moved out, the “blame mom game” will only work so far. As he continues to grow, hopefully his angst will subside and he will find that his heart misses momma.
As far as your own peace of mind, a couple things may help. First is that pain is an amazing teacher, and if your son stumbles a little, he’ll get hurt but will learn. Its hard to watch because we love our children, but that’s one of the burdens of being a parent. They have to learn, and when they have a stubbornness that prevents them from learning through being told, they usually have to learn by getting burned a few times. He is obviously stubborn and strong, so trust that he’ll find his way eventually. Patience!
Second, perhaps you could view his harsh words toward you as a catharsis for him, much like a kid having a temper tantrum. They kick and scream and say all sorts of things when the devil mommy won’t give them cookies for dinner, and that’s OK. They just want what they can’t have. Its a little more sophisticated now, because he’s grown and is smarter… but its the same basic tantrum. “Mom, you’re evil and terrible for not giving me everything I want, for being imperfect, for being a person and not just a role” yadda yadda. I know it sucks to hear those things from him, and the space they create between you two, but its just empty griping about the perception of injustice and other things many teens struggle with as they try to figure out their life. You can stop making it about you, taking it personally, a little bit at a time.
As far as the embarrassment over the holidays… respectfully, you have bigger fish to fry. What other people think of the events holds only the power you give it. Said differently, you have enough on your plate just settling your own heartache without worrying about what they’ll think of you. Most people feel compassion for people who are suffering, so don’t be afraid to hug and share and be authentic with others. Of course, perhaps your family isn’t supportive in that way… I don’t really know them very well. 🙂
Namaste, sister, I hope you find peace.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantAndrea,
In contrast to River’s interesting and curt perspective, consider that there are alternate ways of finding stability than medication. Perhaps leave the answer to “pills or no pills” for another day and consider addressing the lack of motivation directly. Said differently, perhaps you have plenty of energy, but that energy is being eaten up in mental spinning. Instead of distracting yourself, perhaps consider working to help the mind become peaceful and smooth. This can be done most easily through self nurturing, which is why the couch has so much gravity. However, the chatting and TV aren’t that great at nurturing, because they are full of more stories, more chaos and motion. Instead, consider taking a bath, listening to soft instrumental music, or doing a metta practice. Metta is actually the best of the best in my opinion (and that of the Buddha) at helping the mind become peaceful and smooth, and the body refuel its warmth and inspiration. Consider searching YouTube for “guided metta meditation” and checking a few of them out.
Don’t despair, dear sister. You’ve been through a lot of tumult, and many people would be a little uprooted from the changes. It becomes painful, which pushes you toward avoidance quite naturally, reasonably, especially when your energy is low.
There’s nothing wrong with taking medication in general, but your heart said no. Trust that. Perhaps if other things you try don’t work, your heart will change its mind… but remember pain arises to make us alert… and if we take too many pain killers, we don’t learn the causes and can sometimes injure ourselves even more. That being said, there’s no reason for you to sit in pain either… emotional or otherwise. So, if you can’t even find the motivation to relax more skillfully, perhaps some meds will help you get over the hump and walking again. Namaste, Andrea, may you find your peace and momentum.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantMia,
As we encounter the hanging elephant with an open and compassionate heart, it inspires us to do good work. The poor elephant with a life of abuse. The poor abusers with a life of closed heartedness… the pain they endured brings light to fruition within us, moving us toward a life of peace and gentleness. Much like Jesus on the cross has opened the heart of many a being to the potential of love…his suffering was not in vain. Neither was the elephant’s. You’re proof of that. Is that enough to justify it? I can’t say… how strong is your love?
Namaste.
With warmth,
MattMattParticipantBoo,
Its normal to struggle a little with boundaries when we get close to someone. Perhaps many people wouldn’t be bothered even a little by him calling the bank. After all, he did cause the issue. It bothered you, and that’s totally OK too. We learn from our experiences with one another, and some boundaries aren’t understood until we cross them. Oops!
If the oops really sticks in his mind, such that he seems to be cycling and not hearing your assurance that everything is fine between you, then you can dive a little deeper and tell him how much you love him, including his mistakes, not despite them. How you respect his willingness to try, and how he will inevitably make mistakes. How those mistakes help you two know each other even better, find out more and more about one another, and grow your love and understanding of each other even more deeply, more well rooted. Said differently, you can help him see how these minor issues don’t put distance between you teo, rather, they meet up against your mutual love turn into greater closeness.
And congrats on not making it about you. Bravo!
With warmth,
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