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  • #99546
    Tugalie
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    Hi everyone, I’ve been a reader of the site for quite some time but this is my first post on the forums.
    To sum up my problem the question that id ask is:

    How do you deal with a person (my mom) and situation that you cant get out of that is really taking a toll on your emotions?

    Some details:
    My mom has always been fairly volatile, when i was a child she would always make me feel bad that i was costing her money or that she wished she had another child so they would actually be nice to her or she would ignore me when i was emotional or sad.

    She used having a mental illness against me multiple times, she doesnt listen to me and treats me like i have the mental understanding of a 6 year old.

    I have tried:
    1- Talking to her about how it makes me feel the responses I usually get are “you take everything so seriously, you understood me wrong, you cant take a joke”
    2- Avoiding her, she ends up threatening suicide saying everyone hates her
    3- I’ve recommended her to counseling, given her the numbers and address and she just laughs and said that she doesnt need to help that shes not like me

    My friends have suggested i try to talk to and also to just live here and stay miserable. I just need some assurance/support, my mom makes me feel like im the wrong one and im starting to think that it is. I just feel like im trapped as theres no possible way i could move out. Thank you for reading me rambling

    #99552
    HippieChick
    Participant

    Just a couple questions to clarify your situation a little:

    How old are you?

    Does anyone else live with you and your mother?

    Does she have any other living family members that she has relationships with and what are those relationships like (as far as you are aware)?

    Why can’t you move out?

    #99588
    El
    Participant

    Hi Tugalie:

    I would first like to start by telling you this post broke my heart. In some cases I can relate, and I can explain how.

    The difference between me and you is my mother and I have always been very close. However, I also suffered through mental abuse just like you. But the situations were very different. She’d never wish for another child, but she would do some damaging things.

    My mom is a very good person, but she made some very bad mistakes. Growing up, I knew everything bad my mom did and she forced me to lie to my dad and keep secrets. She black mailed me as I became a teenager. She stole from me and stuff like that. Finally, my parents got a divorce a couple months ago. My mom lost her mind and become an extreme alcoholic. She used my mental disorder (Bipolar 2) against me saying that I do not understand because I’m bipolar. Shed use it constantly against me making me feel like shit about a disease that I can’t control. She would also threaten me and make me feel so guilty for things that I never did wrong. She even faked a suicide attempt which caused me to have acute PTSD for a short period of time.

    Although I love my mother very dearly, I had to make a decision. After going through a lot of therapy, I realized how much damage my mother actually caused in my life. I never noticed it until then. I made the decision to take care of myself. That meant cutting her out. I live with my father, but I still have contact with her. However, as soon as the negativity starts, I shut her out. I have become a much happier person since then.

    Trust me, she will not hurt herself. It is just a threat. I can say that most mental illnesses are genetic. You may have received it from her but the chances of her owning up to her problems are very slim.

    Some things I need to know are the same questions the person above asked so we can figure out how to work this out together!

    #99589
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tugalie:

    A child naturally feels emotional attachment, aka love toward one’s mother. A fawn/ very young deer follows its mother into and through the woods, follows her everywhere she goes because it is motivated by the same emotional attachment to its mother. The evolutionary purpose for this emotional attachment is the fawn’s survival. It follows its mother because she leads it toward its well being.

    In humans, often, there is a perversion of nature. The mother, often enough, leads the child toward sickness, not well being. In nature, the mother deer does not turn against her fawn, biting it and beating it to the ground. Unfortunately for humans, this often happens.

    So the human child naturally feels a strong emotional attachment to a mother that is injuring the child.

    Your mother is hurting you, again and again. No matter how hard you tried to help her (a reversal of roles, since she is supposed to be helping you!), she keeps hurting you. It is cruel for her to threaten suicide- this is very scary for a child, who naturally feels this attachment to the mother, to hear this threat.

    Leave her and cut contact. Never look back… but it will not be easy because of your natural attachment to her and because you are weak as a direct result of her abuse of you.

    Leave her. What can be worse for you out there? If you can manage, out there, to eat enough just to survive, and if you can keep yourself warm enough to survive cold weather… and if you can keep yourself away from being sold as a sex slave or such thing, you would be better of, wouldn’t you?

    There is no one more than a child, minor or adult, willing to see one’s mother in the best light, excusing her abuse, minimizing it, denying it, some or most, or all of the time, distorting reality so to feel relatively safe (“It’s not so bad..”)- but it is bad. Very bad for you to be trapped like this.

    Freedom, seek it, aim at it.

    Please write back. I would like to keep communicating with you!

    anita

    #99590
    Tugalie
    Participant

    Hi HippieChick – I am 22 years old, my oldest brother also lives with us. She doesn’t talk to anyone in our family, my brother has basically shut her out of his life but he’s more access to going. I can’t move out because I don’t have a job and im in school, along with the mental illness just going to school is difficult enough. If I moved out I would be homeless and broke, the financial situation has got me stuck here

    Hi Eli – thanks for sharing your story, I’m glad to hear I’m not the only who deals with this

    Hello Anita – I understanding what you are saying but that ship has sailed a long time ago, I really don’t feel love towards her or anything. She would always treat me badly and then say she loves me, after years of this of constant torment that area just ended up shutting down, that “i don’t need love if it just hurts me”. I want to move out and limit or cut all contact with her but the only way I could is to become a sex slave

    Thank you all for replying, it really means a lot to be able to talk and be heard. Thank you

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by Tugalie.
    #99619
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tugalie:

    The only way you can move out is to become a sex slave? This is a good argument on your part to not moving out. I am convinced.

    I am glad you don’t feel love for your mother, that this ship has sailed!

    Problem is, in your original post you wrote that living with her is “really taking a toll on your emotions” and that you are starting to feel that your mother is right and you are wrong. This is happening now, even though you don’t feel love for her.

    You mentioned “mental illness” in your original post: her mental illness? Your mental illness? What is it?

    anita

    #99626
    Tugalie
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply again Anita, yes that is right. Even though I don’t love her the way she treats me and things she says still hurt me. Id describe it like a mean stranger, they make snide comment and it still hurts but you’re able to make it bounce off you with the reasoning that they are a stranger and it’s just a one time thing but this is more on a consistent basis so it’s really hard to just bounce back after this happening constantly.

    My diagnosis tends to bounce around, I’ve been diagnosed with depression, adjustment disorder, borderline personality traits and anxiety

    #99628
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tugalie:

    You suffered and are still suffering the consequences of her abuse of you. I can very much relate to your situation.

    I too thought I no longer loved my mother. For years I felt nothing but anger for her. I even felt guilty for not loving her.

    A few years into my healing and after no longer having any contact with her, to my great surprise, I felt love for her, my goodness, what a surprise. But I didn’t renew contact with her because at that point I understood that all children naturally feel love for their mothers no-matter-who-the-mother is.

    Have you ever attended psychotherapy? If so, what was that experience like?

    I have a lot to share with you as I think we have a lot in common, and I will if we continue to communicate, over time.

    anita

    #99756
    Tugalie
    Participant

    I’ve done therapy for a long time, its not covered so when i did it my mother payed for it. Which was quite a backwards thing as she then blamed me for wasting her money since i wasn’t better, that i still continued to struggle. She still brings it up sometimes too.

    Ive done CBT, I’ve read about DBT. I never did much for that, i don’t mind it but it just feel like it only scratches the surface and being in such a volatile place its like waiting for wounds to heal while new ones keep forming and old opens keep opening up.

    I talked to one of my mental health workers and there is youth housing that is government paid for so i might get on a wait list for that

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by Tugalie.
    #99762
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tugalie:

    You mean you might move out and live in a youth housing? This is an excellent idea and I hope it works out and you do move out ASAP. If I lived with my mother, no amount of therapy would have helped me. When I was in my mother’s company, even in telephone contact only with her, it was like you wrote: “old (wounds) keep opening up.”

    My therapist combined CBT, DBT and Mindfulness. He was my first competent, caring and hard working therapist, five years ago.

    But back to you moving out, I am very hopeful for you. I don’t know anything about you and your situation more than you shared on this thread, but I do know enough to be certain that moving out for you is the right thing to do, the beginning of your healing.

    I wonder if you get on the waiting list and how long it is.

    anita

    #100160
    Tugalie
    Participant

    Id still have to have the interview for it, im not sure if i qualify because of the funding needed. You need to qualify for government assistance. The wait list is probably 2-4 years but at least it gives me something to hope for and to try to hold out until then.

    My worker does believe that she is more than just your “average angry and moody mom” and that moving out would be the best option for me as well.

    Keeping touch with you has been nice, its nice to talk to someone that has been in the same situation

    #100165
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tugalie:

    Living away from your mother is something to look forward to, to hope for… freedom from abuse, yes! Please do keep in touch with me here, as well as others who are supportive of you.

    If this is an “average angry and moody mom” this is very sad. Average, huh? My goodness!

    Till your next post, take best care of yourself possible, please!

    anita

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