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  • #51168
    Tina
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    “Rather than continuing to seek the truth, simply let go of your views.”

    Hello, I am new here.

    I just recently saw this quote by Buddha and I am sort of confused.

    My question in relation to the quote is that, isn’t it the Buddha’s teaching for us to seek the truth?

    My knowledge in Buddhism is still pretty shallow therefore hopefully someone can enlighten me on my confusion.

    Thanks! xP

    #51169
    Matt
    Participant

    Tina,

    What a splendid question! I can understand why it seems confusing, but it cuts at the heart of materialism. Consider a wise guru, well versed in philosophy and spirit. He opens a closet door and sees a snake on the floor. He jumps back in panic, fear and stress. Now, he may try to rationalize and consider how the snake got into the closet, try to figure out some divine message, some intervention by spirit or whatnot. However, when the lights come on, he sees it wasn’t a snake at all, it was just a rope.

    So, all that stress and consideration was illusory, instigated by his wrong view of the rope. Buddha is saying (as shown to me by my teacher) that it isn’t in rationalizing “what is” that sets us free from stress, its letting go of wrong views. Seeing the rope sets us free much more directly than reasoning out why a snake is in the closet.

    In practice, consider something such as “love”. That word means something to you, and perhaps something different to your ex, your mom, your dad, me, and so forth. As we let go of our solid “love means this and not that”, then we open up the space inside us to see what love means to other people. For instance, perhaps mom thinks love is a trap, because she loves a difficult man. Perhaps the ex thinks that love means sex, because rather than warmth, his attentions were fueled by sensual desire. Perhaps I see love as an expression of freedom. Or whatever. Consider that an attachment to what an idea means, such as “no, you are wrong, love is something different” pushes out, keeps away. “That is not true” we might say, but what makes our version “truth” and theirs “false”? Nothing, of course, they’re just views.

    Then we can grow spaciousness inside, accepting the subjective nature of forms and concepts. Said differently, people see and relate to the world in many, many different ways. Finding peace, growing, blossoming isn’t about finding the one true meaning of “everything”, rather accepting that “everything” is a knitting together of subjective views.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #51171
    Tina
    Participant

    Dear Matt,

    Thank you for your wonderful explanation!

    I think I understand what you mean. When I think that I am seeking for the truth by questioning other people’s point of view, and it was to the point that I was too caught up in the whole idea of what is the ‘truth’, in essence, I had actually failed to see that I too, had strayed from what I intended.

    For example, I used to always question people who see things in a certain conservative way. In my mind, I would always say to myself “how could people be so close-minded and fail to see it for what it is.” However, recently, I’ve realized that when I am doubting and questioning someone’s point of view, I am also in a way, doing what I accuse people of doing. When I ask the question aforesaid, someone else could also ask the same thing, “how can you be so ‘open-minded’ to the point that you have failed to see it for what it is.”

    I hope that I had correctly interpreted what you were trying to say! =)

    Now my next question is then this, what is the truth? What did the Buddha mean by seeking the truth? How to seek such truth? Truth in what aspect?

    Hope that my questions aren’t too much! xP Thank you in advance!

    Sincerely,
    Tina.

    #51173
    AikiBen
    Participant

    Hi Tina,

    I think Matt’s rope/snake metaphor works well. What came to my mind when I read that quote is the Zen idea of having to empty your own cup (i.e. mind) first in order to allow the truth to flow into the cup. That your views and opinions may be blocking you from finding truth, that when you drop these then clarity ensues and insight happens naturally.

    As to your follow up questions, that is for you to find out for yourself. People can you give you an inkling, but it won’t really mean much until you experience and feel it in yourself. For me it seems to come little and often as I try to walk along the inner path.

    #51179
    Natalia
    Participant

    Hi Tina,

    I wanted to further reinforce Matt’s analogy, and also challenge it (healthily) by adding that it is not so much that there are wrong or right views, there are just different ones, as illustrated by the snake and rope. Either one is a point of view, and it is our truth. I think what sets us free in reference to “the truth shall set you free”, is finding a way of seeing the truth that will best serve us. Examine the entire “picture”, based on what is, rather than what we believe it is. Upon closer examination the “snake” was not a snake at all, but if we allow fear to stop us in our tracks, we get paralyzed and unable to turn on the light to “see” the truth:)

    Thank you for the question. It truly helped me with something I am dealing with at this very moment. Which is so interesting, considering I was looking for the truth or meaning in something, when it was always there, blocked by my fear of what I may find if let go of my view.

    Kindest,

    Natalia

    #51182
    Matt
    Participant

    Tina,

    Buddha taught that the three qualities of existence are impermanence, no-self, and suffering. Things change, have no fixed meaning, and ignorance/unacceptance of that produces dissatisfaction. Some distill these down further to “karma” or “forced views”. Said differently, when you question someone else about their truth, what you receive is their version of truth. When you speak your truth, you give your views of what is. Assuming of course a direct and open connection, free from intentional deception. However, these views are not truth, just views… and the truth is some things we see collapse the space inside us, and some open them.

    Consider for a moment these sharings like a mirror. You say “what, who” and someone answers “that, him”. We are looking into a mirror to try to understand “truth” or “ourselves”. However, if someone had mischeviously (or ignorantly) drew a moustache on the mirror, when we look at the mirror, we might assume the moustache is on ourselves.

    For instance, mom might say “matt, you are ugly”, and if I take in those sounds as true, it produces a false reflection in my self perception. This closes the space to see my mom clearly, because i am busy feeling icky over being ugly. If I see the mirror has the ugliness painted on it (from her childhood or whatnot) then it is never about me, its about the mirror, about my mom and her views. Truth with a capital T is sometimes related as what arises from a completely clear mirror, or one whose mind is completely unstained, no confusion of where the moustache comes from. The rest is fog and mirrors… kids playing wise, grasping at truth from observing cause and effect. Said differently, an awakened mind never produces a self image from the reflections, sees the moustache, and never considers it as something to do with them. Just a mirror with grit on it, pigment, projection, unhealed wounds or whatnot.

    In your example of a conservative politician (assuming their view is unskillful) your bafflement arises from a lack of compassion, a lack of spaciousness for them. They don’t have their views for “no reason”, they have them for exactly the reason they have them. Their views aren’t causeless, they are caused, bound and sustained by something. Self importance, low empathy, rigid morality, whatnot. Something causes them to relate to their environment in such and such a way. Sometimes that cause is simple, immediate, such as seeing someone that acts racist because they clearly fear differences. Sometimes it is more tangled, more interwoven, such as someone that claims capitialism is a form of social darwinism and helps the strength of the species. Or whatnot.

    When we feel the bafflement, we sidestep or ignore the laws of karma, of cause and effect, and our space for their view collapses. For instance, we may see a thief and judge them as a terrible person as the bafflement sets in as to how such a thing could happen. But, if we make space for them, see deeply into the potential pain and twists that produce such actions, we do not produce confusion, only more space for karma to just be what happens.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #51183
    Matt
    Participant

    The snake metaphor is certainly not mine, its well used. 🙂

    Natalia,

    Its not that there is no wrong view and no right view, such as “only subjective”. For instance, it might be highly beneficial to see the rope as a snake, but that will never make it a snake. A rope is a rope. However, all the symbolism and meaning associated with the shapes and colors are just as you say, subjective. However, right view is much like “an apple seed does not grow an orange tree” rather than “apple trees are better than orange trees”. In that way, your pointing makes sense… apple trees or orange trees depending on what serves best. Whether we want apples or oranges, what the soil is prepared for, and so forth.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #51237
    Tina
    Participant

    Hi guys! Thank you so much on all of your feedback!

    I can’t deny that I am a little overwhelmed by all of these knowledge currently hence, allow me to ask one more question, as an illustration.

    I am from a country whereby one of the local Buddhist’s beliefs include the belief in the Goddess of Mercy, or “Guan Yin”. My mom is a follower and I too, had been, sort of. However, ever since I started studying Buddhism, I began to question the existence of this ‘god’. At the same time, I felt bad for questioning it as if I am questioning the existence of the Buddha himself.

    Therefore, in this situation, how am I to seek the truth?

    Thank you and have a nice day!

    Sincerely,
    Tina.

    #51241
    Matt
    Participant

    Tina,

    Sometimes when we feel full, its a good time to stop eating! Consider that praying to Guan Yin does something peaceful for your mom and others. If not for you, that’s fine. Buddhist monks that bow to the Buddha, and/or bow to Guan Yin, don’t do it to worship a god or goddess, but rather in respect of the seed of the Buddha inside themselves. Some Buddhists just want some merit or protection or a hero, and that’s fine too.

    Questioning isn’t a problem, isn’t disrespectful. How else will you learn?

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #120735
    Mike
    Participant

    In Zen, they say: “don’t seek the truth. just cease to cherish opinions.”
    what does that mean?
    To me it means to let go of identification with your mind. Who are you beyond the mind then emerges by itself.

    From personal experience, I find that when I say to the other person, “lets find out the truth, IT’S not important about who is right or wrong”, it still is coming from the ego, my ego. I am confident that my point of view is correct. Buddha is saying to give up seeking the truth, it causes suffering. This is the mind wanting to solve a problem which it created in the first place. The ego does not want to solve a problem.
    THE ego loves to fight people with their opinions because it is considered to be an attack. THE ego cannot tell the difference between a verbal attack and a physical attack. That is why is defends itself as if IT’S life depends on it.
    Buddha also says that wherever you go you will find people WITH opinions. You can fight with everyone you meet. But nobody’s opinion will hurt you or kill you.

    #120736
    Mike
    Participant

    In Zen, they say: “don’t seek the truth. just cease to cherish opinions.”
    what does that mean?
    To me it means to let go of identification with your mind. Who are you beyond the mind then emerges by itself.

    From personal experience, I find that when I say to the other person, “lets find out the truth, IT’S not important about who is right or wrong”, it still is coming from the ego, my ego. I am confident that my point of view is correct. Buddha is saying to give up seeking the truth, it causes suffering. This is the mind wanting to solve a problem which it created in the first place. The ego does not want to solve a problem.
    THE ego loves to fight people with their opinions because it is considered to be an attack. THE ego cannot tell the difference between a verbal attack and a physical attack. That is why is defends itself as if IT’S life depends on it.
    Buddha also says that wherever you go you will find people WITH opinions. You can fight with everyone you meet. But nobody’s opinion will hurt you or kill you.

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