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  • #384044
    Anonymous
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    Dear Aum:

    Welcome back almost a year since you last posted, in later August 2020!

    First the easy part for me to comment on: “I know that if I put some (literal) distance between us I can be much happier, healthier, and at peace. When I was away from them, I felt like I was my best self. My absence didn’t seem to impact them in any way, my bro in particular seems indifferent to whether I’m even in the house or not“- put a literal distance again, between you and your family (parents and brother). It’s a Win for you.. and it is not a Lose for them. A fair deal!

    Second, about anger and what came first: “My parents treated him/treat him with more respect, consideration, and care because..  he isn’t emotional or temperamental… on the other hand.. had/have a bad temper, was/still am very emotional.. he is the polite, quiet, reserved and intelligent one. I’m the easily angered, opinionated, ‘disagreeable’ one“- seems to me that First, your parents favored your brother, Second, you became angry (“bad temper… very emotional… easily angered.. ‘disagreeable'”).

    It is not that your brother was born to be non-emotional and you were born overly emotional and angry. What it is, is that the two of you reacted to different treatments from your parents. They encouraged him to be a certain way, and he is. They didn’t treat you as an equal to him, so you became understandably angry.

    What do you think of what I wrote here so far?

    anita

    #384050
    Aum
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    Hi Anita, thanks for having me back 🙂 I’m sorry I don’t have more pleasant things to write about.

    First, thank you for taking the time to read over this and give a response, I really appreciate your time and energy.

    Second, I have been thinking about leaving ever since I returned, it’s terrible but true. I’ve been looking at moving out too, but financially, it’s not an option rn. I feel guilty about it, but I think again at this point, parental/familial guilt is something we all have…

    I think what you’re saying is true. I guess I was angry that I was being treated differently, maybe picking up on it even when I was young. Now that I think about it, I lashed out a lot when I was a child, and even now, being around them makes me want to lash out. I don’t want to resent any of them for this even though it really hurts. It’s pointless when they’re so ignorant to all of this and I’m sure there were some deep-seated cultural reasons for the fact that my brother, a boy, was given favor over me, a girl.

    Is there a way to move past this without an acknowledgment or apology from them?

     

    #384054
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Aum:

    You are very welcome and no need to apologize for posting about “more pleasant things”!

    Is there a way to move past this without an acknowledgment or apology from them?“- yes, if you physically move away from your family who is still treating you unfairly,  and if  you choose a relationship or relationships elsewhere, where you are being treated fairly. Otherwise, I don’t see a way to live with, or interact with people who treat you unfairly and ..  be okay with it.

    anita

    #384096
    Aum
    Participant

    Hi Anita, I see what you mean. I don’t mind the going away part, I’ve done it before so I don’t think it will be hard doing it again.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is that I’d still like to be part of my brother’s life, esp now that this big thing is happening for him. We have the type of dynamic where we tell each other important life stuff first, even before we tell our parents. Basically, he’s my emergency contact. I think whatever role I have in his life currently is going to be lessened pretty soon, which is why I don’t feel as guilty about leaving.

    Am I insane for still wanting to maintain a relationship with him?

    #384101
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Aum:

    Of course you are not insane for wanting to maintain a relationship with your brother and with his family, once he marries and has children.

    Idk whether it’s repression or denial, but he never feels bad feelings, never wants to talk about bad feelings and whenever I approach him to talk about my struggles, he gives me a few moments of his time before getting bored/disengaging/withdrawing. It’s like he can’t handle heavy emotions“-

    – he has bad feelings but he is able to brush them off and not dwell in them. Be happy for him, that he is able to do that. Try to be more like him in this regard. I am not saying that you should deny or repress your feelings, but when you are around him and his future family, when interacting with them, focus on the here-and-now, and not on the past. Stop approaching him to talk about your struggles in regard to your parents and childhood: he is your brother, not your friend, and not your therapist.

    You are unhappy about his responses when you shared your feelings in regard to your parents and childhood, but it is very unlikely for any adult sibling to have an adequate and accurate understanding of another sibling’s subjective experience of childhood and parents (when it is different from one’s own) because a sibling is not objective enough to have such understanding. No matter how much one sibling shares with the other, the other can’t really get it.

    He cannot understand your subjective experience of your childhood and you cannot understand his subjective experience of his childhood because neither one of you is objective. It is well known that for a psychotherapist to have a good understanding of a client’s experience of childhood, the therapist has to be objective enough, that is, to separate her experience of her own childhood from that of the client’s, which is often not easy to do. Siblings with different subjective experiences of childhood are very unlikely to be able to do that. Therefore, I suggest that you no longer try to make him understand your childhood experience, including your relationships with your parents. And keep in mind that you don’t really know his experience!

    When you told him recently something about how you were treated negatively by your parents, he said:  “But mom and dad do that to me too“- you didn’t know that, did you? You thought that your parents treated him perfectly?

    anita

     

    #384108
    Aum
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    When you said

    “he is your brother, not your friend, and not your therapist”

    and

    “it is very unlikely for any adult sibling to have an adequate and accurate understanding of another sibling’s subjective experience of childhood and parents (when it is different from one’s own) because a sibling is not objective enough to have such understanding. No matter how much one sibling shares with the other, the other can’t really get it”

    something clicked for me. I totally understand what you’re saying. I guess I got so lost in the hurt of the past stuff that I was being myopic. I think maybe I tend to take even little things personally because of how we grew up. But that’s on me not on him. I do struggle to stay present if I’m being honest, so I will have to work on that more.

    I know this situation isn’t that serious, but I do get trapped in my head a lot so thank you for talking this through with me I really appreciate it!

    #384109
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Aum:

    You are welcome, and you can post here anytime you are trapped in your head, as you phrased it. It is very tough to grow up being treated as less-than a sibling, it leads to ongoing anger that blurs a person’s sight, causing that myopic vision you mentioned.

    anita

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