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March 24, 2019 at 1:00 pm #286121limbikanimariaParticipant
Here is my backstory in a nut shell…I have been struggling with bulimia on and off since I was 17 (I am now 27). I have been feeling stuck the last few years and very resentful towards my mother for neglecting to support me/getting the help I needed when my disorder first started. I have made progress on letting go of some of that resentment and keeping in mind that she did not have the tools to properly support me at the time when my disorder started.
Yesterday we had a conversation about my eating disorder that she initiated. I tried to be open, and when we started talking about it and went more in depth, that resentment arose. I told her that I started feeling very angry towards her and I tried not to act on it. She started asking more questions and kept saying âit wasnât my faultâ, because she doesnât want to face the reality that she contributed to the development of my disorder. I explained to her that I donât blame her for anything and I am responsible now for how I handle my disorder, but that I didnât agree with her parenting style on how my disorder was handled. I said this in a very neutral voice to try and not upset her. The conversation went too far and I ended up recalling and voicing a memory that I had of her when I was 16 and binging at our house. She walked by and said âdid you enjoy your bingeâ and kept walking. My mother completely denies this memory that I have. She kept saying over and over âI would never say that. Maybe it was a dream you had. Maybe you misunderstood something else that I said.â I remember it as my reality so clearly, and it was almost as if she was trying to convince me that my memory was false. It felt very surreal. It may not have been beneficial for either of us to recall and voice that memory from 10 years ago, but it happened, and my mother denies my memory of her. It almost felt scary how genuinely she was denying it. At he very least, by me voicing the memory I gave her a chance to remember it and apologize, which would have been my ideal fantasy. Now I must accept that she denies my memory.
I did not post on here to be lectured about how I need therapy, I have tried it and I appreciate your suggestion to help, but again that is not why I am posting. I am posting to process this occurrence with my mother and to help validate myself somehow. I know I need to self validate. I am curious if anyone else knows why someone might genuinely deny an action like this? My guess is that her mind is somehow covering up this memory to protect her from the pain of how ugly of an action it was to shame her daughter.
- This topic was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by limbikanimaria.
- This topic was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by limbikanimaria.
March 25, 2019 at 9:25 am #286233AnonymousGuestDear limbikanimaria:
December 2016 you shared in your first thread here (you can click your username and get a record of it): she, your mother that is, “made shameful comments towards me. For example, she noticed I had eaten a lot of food and asked did you enjoy your binge?'”- this is congruent with what you posted yesterday, more than two years later: “She walked by and said ‘did you enjoy your binge’ and kept walking”.
In this thread you wrote that you told your mother that you “didn’t agree with her parenting style on how my disorder was handled“- her comment and other comments she made regarding your eating disorder was not a “parenting style”, it was something she said because she felt like saying it. She was annoyed with you, I suppose, and blurted something. Blurting something is not parenting and it is not handling anything.
You wrote here: “I have been feeling stuck the last few years and very resentful towards my mother… I have made progress on letting go of some of that resentment and keeping in mind that she did not have the tools to properly support me..”-
I see the reason for you being stuck for years as that you focus, like many adult children do, on your mother instead of on you. Your focus should not be on how to no longer be angry at your mother. Your focus should be healing. Be angry at her. She hurt you so it is natural to be angry at the person that hurt us repeatedly.
Stay angry at her and look elsewhere for help. Stop looking for your mother to help you… stop looking for help from the person that created the problem in your life to undo it.
Regarding why she denies this memory which you shared about Dec 2016 and again, March 2019- because it is convenient for her to deny it. It feels better for her to deny it than to admit it. Let’s say she sincerely forgot, she could have said to you: I don’t remember saying it, and then consider that she may have said it and forgot that she did. After all she doesn’t remember a lot of things she said in her life. But she denied it.
It feels better for her. Why not stop communicate with her altogether, why are you still trying to get her help?
anita
April 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm #287485GLParticipantDear limbikanimaria,
Your mother, like yourself, have a certain perception of herself as a human being. And when the identity that she has created through her own perception of the world is threatened in any way, or in your case, a memory of her doing or saying that isn’t aligned with how she thinks of herself, she would then proceed to deny it. So it’s not that she is denying your memory of her so much as she is denying the image that memory is painting of her, which is a person who is caustic toward someone is bulimic. And if your mother is fixated in thinking herself as a good person, and a good person is never cruel to their own children, then you won’t get anywhere regardless of what you do.
You can keep telling her your reality of being bulimic and how her words and actions have triggered some of it, but that doesn’t mean that she has to listen or understand any of it. They have to choose to openly listen to you, even if they can’t understand. But while your mother might be listening, that doesn’t mean that she hears everything, especially when it relate to her. No one wants to be a bad person so if your stories give your mother a bad image, then she won’t accept that as true because she does not think herself as a bad person. And since she is not a bad person, then that means she wouldn’t be cruel toward you. And that is how she see herself in her reality. Just, your reality does not match/align with her reality.
Though you want her to validate your claim because to you, the event did happen. Thus, you want justice equal to the cruel remarks inflicted onto you. You want her to be aware of your pain, you hope for her understanding of how her actions affected you. You want closure on what happened. Because to you, your mother is someone whom you hope will change to this awesome mom whom you can have a close relationship with, if only she would sincerely apologize for her cutting remarks. Because that apology would mark a change in your relationship with each other. Or maybe that’s not what you want at all, but you certainly wish for closure as you still linger on the fact that your mother would not validate a memory of yours.
But closure is a myth if you expect to find it from someone apologizing to you. Closure is not someone doing something, but you letting go of the expectations and hope for closure. Because the more you wish for closure, the more reality will disappoint you as you can’t control other people’s actions. You can hope for an apology, but whether the person in question understand what or why they should apologize is dubious at best and improbable at worse. Why? Because no one wants to be wrong, no one likes setting aside their pride to apologize, no one wants to be a bad person and no one has lived your life; does not see the world through your perception. They cannot see how certain remarks hurt you or why. They cannot understand your pain just as you cannot understand theirs. While your hurt and pain might be a reason for them to apologize, it is still something that is your reason, not theirs. So you might or might not get an apology regarding how much you explain their actions have hurt you.
The best thing for you is to just accept that that your mother will not change. Your mother has chosen to be who she is as she is seen through the reality that you perceive. People rarely take the initiative to change unless they perceived the need to change. And people are generally narcissistic in their perception of being a good person so it’s an exercise in futility in trying to change them somehow. So no matter how much you tell her what you went through, if your stories paint her as a bad person, she might or might not listen. She has the choice to listen, that is her freedom. She can choose to understand and maybe apologize for her actions, but she doesn’t have to. It’d be nice, but it’s her choice to do so.
It does not matter whether she is your mother; she is, first and foremost, an individual, a human being. It’s just that, for whatever reason, she, the human, is your mother in this reality/life. So you decide: accept the reality of your mother as she is or continue hoping that one day in the future, she will somehow change into a better person and finally apologize.
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