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October 25, 2017 at 9:42 am #174809
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GuestDear Michael:
I read your post attentively. Toward the end you wrote this: “In my head… was telling me its ok … youre feeling pain. Make yourself feel better about things. BUT…its at the expense of who you really are”.
I think that what you mean by “who you really are” (and let me know if you agree) is what you value. And your addictions, your efforts to not feel pain are incongruent with your values.
When we escape pain at the expense of what we value, there is conflict, and shame. And so, the escaping of pain is followed by… pain.
I think your mother, when she was alive, operated with a similar goal in mind: to escape pain. She found that escape with men, your step father and then Stuart, and dating before and in between. She did so at the expense of you, of her mothering responsibility. She overdosed to escape her pain as well.
If she only valued and was true to the value of being a loving, present mother to you, much of your pain wouldn’t be there.
Do focus on what you value. When inclined to escape your pain, a natural inclination, think, if you will: is this escape congruent with what I value?
What you shared about your ex girlfriend leads me to think that you value true love, the way your ex girlfriend did care about your well-being. I hope you post again.
anita
October 25, 2017 at 11:11 am #174851Michael
ParticipantThank you so much Anita.
You’re correct with what you say … efforts to not feel pain are incongruent with my values.
I was reading your reply and your take on my Mum, I never ever thought about it like that … it feels so accurate.
Even for me to face porn addiction was huge, like any addiction its not something that you tend to talk about openly … taboo subject. Looking at females as sexual objects, and using sex as a way to avoid pain is vicious.
I’ve got a lot to offer someone, i’m a Cat Dad too 🙂 … I was determined that after breaking up with my ex GF that I wasn’t going to let this ruin my life anymore. I was going to face the pain head on, and even when I meditate using guided meditations I can sit with my feelings and just allow them to wash over me. Society just expects you to deal with grief and get on with things, especially when working in London, you can’t show any weakness. The only person I could really talk to about my feelings was my Aunt who died last year as she was a psychiatrist … so she could pull me out of my head.
I have good days and bad days, but more good now. I try to choose love over fear each day … but I find that if I drink or do drugs on a weekend I fall back a little emotionally. I only tend to have a wild night once every few months, but it does set me back even at that … i’m trying to say yes to more things to get new experiences, where as before I had crazy anxiety levels. Self worth was so low, and I felt like I was the ugliest person in the World … trying to be kinder to who I am. As long as I stay true to my values I will be ok. trying to deal with the shame of past mistakes … I can’t let them govern how my life will be moving forward.
You meet someone who thinks you don’t care for them at all, but you actually loved them more than anything but you are so wrapped up in yourself and just trying to survive on an emotional level. fight or flight mode.
October 25, 2017 at 11:44 am #174875Anonymous
GuestDear Michael:
You make a lot of sense in your post, lots of understanding, motivation and promise.
The addictions, though, these habits, the attachment to them is strong, isn’t it. There is the bad feelings you don’t want to feel and the automatic ways you react, the automatic reaching out to the solutions of past, now habits. These habits bypass the Values neuropathways of the brain.
They are about Pain-> withdraw from pain. The earliest instinct in the evolution of animals.
How are you going to deal with those heavy-duty habits, aka addictions?
anita
October 25, 2017 at 2:43 pm #174899Peter
ParticipantI think your right. The place to start to move forwarded may be with forgiveness and doing so perhaps refrain your story
Forgiveness is an Art – especially when it comes to forgiving ourselves, which is always entangled with our ability to forgive others. We forgive others as we forgive ourselves.
Very much recommend the book ‘The Art of Forgiving’ by Lewis B. Smedes
Also Clarissa Pinkola Estes tells a story ‘the Crescent Moon Bear’ which is about forgiveness and can be found in her book, ‘Women Who Run with the Wolves’ Or in audio CD “Theater of the Imagination”. (Yes, the book intended target is women but men can learn a great deal from it as well. Especially when one embraces symbolic language and doing so realize that the symbolic words masculine and feminine are not about gender. The symbols are informed by gender but do not represent a gender)
According to Clarissa there are Four Stages to Forgiveness:
to forgo – move forward, don’t let what happened stop you from living your truth
to forbear – to abstain from punishing – holding yourself and others accountable but as punishment.
to forget – and in do not dwell – We don’t forget what happened to us instead we do not dwell
to forgive – finding a place of being able to say yes to the experience As It Was without attachment.
October 26, 2017 at 3:36 am #174943Michael
ParticipantThank you both for taking the time to reply … i’m very grateful.
I’ve never really spoke about all of this before, but touched on the porn addiction to my therapist and a couple of friends.
I think in order to deal with these, I need to just keep whats important to me at the forefront of my mind. i’m 34,not a child anymore … and that its ok to sit with the pain. I don’t have to hide anymore. More importantly, I need to forgive and let go of the past … and just enjoy each day.
Before the start of my ‘spiritual awakening’ this year, I lived my life in a state where I would have been quite happy to watch the World burn down around me. Just a cycle of anger, hatred and blame … I was never good enough. I would walk around most days on the verge of tears. Those habits were the only thing that helped to ease the pain.
I still have days where I will watch Porn, but then I say to myself is this what I want and I say no and stop, i’ve relapsed twice going to see Escorts since I broke up with my ex … Which is a significant improvement from where I was, it got out of control. Anytime I felt lonely or sad … I felt like I needed that company. Now I have the strength to tell myself no … you’ve come to far.
A very good friend of mine at work said something wonderful to me … I was talking about past events, as recently my Grandmother was unwell, and she is the last person who I hold closely to me as she raised me … I talked about being alone. My friend said, Michael … you’re not alone. It was such a powerful moment for me. I’ve felt alone for so long, and i’m not.
I need to love who I am, and be more present. I’m going to write those stages of forgiveness down in my journal. I like to keep pow wow statements in there to help me on bad days.
I need to forgive. I think thats a good thing as it shows i’m a good person.
October 26, 2017 at 5:27 am #174953Eliana
ParticipantHi Michael,
My story is very similar to yours,different in my early childhood, but the same as far as moving from country to country, state to state. I had six siblings. Our mother was an Alcoholic. We had a very traumatic, abusive, and severely neglectful early childhood. She would go on drinking binges, leaving us alone for days. We had a nanny who my Father hired, who we loved very much, and we loved in return. My earliest experience of loss began with my mother who was unable to give us the love, nurturing and care we needed. All she cared about was getting her next drink. My father would put her in rehab and hospitals but back in the 60’s not much was done with the help of Alcololism and awareness. She would just run away and to the nearest bar.
My Dad was a Harvard Graduate, a very succesful man, but he had to travel extensively for business as he was CEO for a huge paper company. I was born in Miami, Florida, two years later, moved to Boston, one year later, moved to Alicante, Spain. At this time..my Dad came home very upset to see that my Mother had fired the nanny, and we were all left alone. No food, nothing. We were taken away from the courts.
My father’s sister and her husband came to love me, and became my foster parents. But I missed Annabelle terribly. (The nanny). We then moved to Kingston, Jamaica where I had to learn to speak English to get into first grade. My older brother lived with us, whom I was very close to, my Aunt and Uncle loved him very much too, but one day, my mother flew to Jamaica drunk, accusing them of kidnapping right before the adoption of him went through and she lied and said she met a rich man with a huge house and he would be taken care of. She told them she did not want me. They became my Foster parents. That was my other loss, I did not speak to anyone for months after David left. My other siblings went to live with their real fathers. David had it not so good. He got put in a foster home. There was no “rich man” no “big house” the foster home asked if he knew my Aunt and Uncle’s address and phone number in Jamaica and he did not. I never saw him again until I was 16. My great Aunt finally found him at the age of 13 at the foster home and raised him. We were transfered around after Jamaica and by the time I was 16, lived in 8 more States and 2 more countries. I had no roots, no real friends.
I became very troubled as a teen, and my Aunt and Uncle had enough and put me in a boarding school in Florida. I sat there alone on my suitcase crying. I had no one. My real father came and got me at the age of 17, and I I lived with him, but we fought, mostly because I was very troubled and unhappy.
I too have never been able to maintain a long term relationship. Do you think it is because of all the loss you had, no roots, and moving around so much? I know mine is that problem. I am in therapy for that now. I feel I have some invisible sign on me saying “I’m alone, no family, few friends, no roots”. Maybe men pick up on that, I don’t know the answer. I wish I did. I just wanted to share you are not alone. I also miss my beloved cats. I can’t have them where I live now. They were my only family.
October 26, 2017 at 6:38 am #174973Anonymous
GuestDear Michael:
The key sentence in your last share, to me, is “its ok to sit with the pain”. This is what it takes to break the habit of withdrawing from pain, distracting yourself from pain by engaging in those or that activity that is harmful to you.
Sitting with the pain means to endure it, to believe that you can endure it, not collapsing, not losing control, not dying. The pain may be great sadness.
Once you sit with it, and do so repeatedly, the pain, the great sadness if it is what it is, gets the attention it demands. That calms it down, like a child throwing tantrums, screaming louder and louder. If the child is really listened to, empathetically, attentively, reliablythe tantrums will cease.
anita
October 26, 2017 at 7:59 am #174995Michael
ParticipantHi Eliana … thank you so much for sharing your background with me.
How are things with you now?
The moving around was a huge problem, even when I recently bought my first home, I noticed that in 5 years I had stayed at 8 different addresses, across London and Glasgow. Especially when I stayed in London, I was able to put all my stuff in a box.
That along with my history of moving as a kid meant staying in one place and being present in the moment was not the NORM. I felt like I was dying if I stayed anywhere longer than a few years, even with jobs. In my head it was just saying Runnnn! My Aunt helped me with the deposit to my property and she kept telling me I needed a safe base. I knew myself I couldnt keep running.
Secondly, I never believed in marriage for a long time as I saw how unhappy my Mum was in various relationships. I promised myself I would never end up like that. It wasn’t until I saw two of my close friends get married where I was like that was beautiful. I’ve come to accept to relationships aren’t perfect, they constantly need looked after, much like a delicate flower … and they will only grow if and flourish if you give it the right love and attention. Even up to the start of this year, I was so unhappy … I struggled to eat properly, wash myself and even look after my home … the small things. It was always easier to blame the relationship with my ex as she was closest to me, or to blame my job for how I felt. Just taking time to take stock and see where the thoughts come from and having that awareness of the triggers helps me. I’ve got a little ragdoll kitten called Ivor Lebowski who I love dearly, he always needs cared for so I know I owe it to him to get my $hit together so to speak.
Its hard, and not everyone understands … just realizing you’re not broken is a big help too. I was at the buddhist centre here … and the speaker mentioned something that really hit home with me, she said where has worrying ever benefited you, you are worth the World as you are right now. I could feel light in my heart, for the very first time in many many years I felt whole. I felt happy.
I’m trying to stretch that feeling out so it gets longer and longer, day by day. It takes practice. I need to let go of my past mistakes and decisions. It hurts me how not only have I treated others but how I treated myself.
October 26, 2017 at 6:18 pm #175103Eliana
ParticipantHi Michael,
I am doing okay, thanks for asking. Have a great therapist. Sometimes, I wish I had roots, a place to call “home”. When people ask me where “I am from” I never know what to say, lol. I guess I’m just used to it by now. I hope you keep posting and letting us know how you are doing.
October 27, 2017 at 5:18 am #175143H
Participant@michael: i read your whole story. I’m sorry to hear what happened. do you mind keeping us updated about your life?
October 27, 2017 at 7:46 am #175171Michael
ParticipantI guess home is just a place where you feel safe, it doesnt have to be a set memory from childhood. I used to get really jealous of friends who had the whole stable to parent upbringing, but to be honest everyones got issues … you just dont see them. I’ve met people who seem to have everything, but infact have nothing as they arent happy. Its how we frame it all … what advice would you give to the 10 year old you? I sometimes use this as a way to be kinder to myself.
I will keep posting and let you know how I get on. I usually post a lot of book quotes and self help pieces on instagram – just_mike.
Its nice just to talk to people about things. Knowing you’re not alone is such a powerful force.
Mike
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