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Laws of Karma & Reincarnation are BALONEY!!!

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    Peter
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    The idea of karma has been greatly misunderstood.

    My understanding after reading the Tibetan book of the dead was that karma wasn’t about reward, justice or punishment but a quality that keeps a person from “seeing” / experiencing and so stuck.  To a large extent we see what we expect to see/experience.  Forgive us our failings as we forgive those who fail us is not a suggestion but a truth.  In the book of the dead karma keeps a person stuck in the cycle of death and rebirth. A person capable of “seeing” beyond suffering and pain…. can end the cycle.

    You might apply such concepts to the afterlife however symbolic language suggest that we experience the cycle of death and rebirth in every breath we take. Such teaching is common in all wisdom traditions if one has the eyes to see and ear’s to hear.

    Sorry have to run

    #182727
    Tannhauser
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    I find both ideas equally repugnant and disgusting, and on balance I would prefer total oblivion at the cessation of life. I don’t understand why many people are afraid of death, it’s the ‘afterlife’ you need to be scared of. With death, all your suffering is over forever. With ‘afterlife’, you continue on a sort of ‘misery-go-round’, learning and suffering and craving and experiencing birth and death pains again and again and again. Fuck that.

    What’s even worse is that according to the Hindu/Buddhist hokum everything is pre-ordained. So that would include rape, murder, the Holocaust, the burying alive of Chinese captives during the Japan-China war, childhood terminal cancer and so on.

    Best wishes,

    Tannhauser

    #182865
    Jay
    Participant

    My understanding is that Karma is not a cosmic justice system, it is not punishment or reward for good or bad behavior. Karma an volitional/willful action, it is cause and effect pure and simple.

    Here is a link to an article that will explain it much better than I could. https://www.thoughtco.com/buddhism-and-karma-449992

     

    #212075
    Tamara
    Participant

    I learned in Thailand about the Dhamma. It was kept very simple.

    Regarding karma: if you plant a mango seed, you get a mango tree. It’s impossible to plant a mango seed and get a potato.
    Whatever we plant we have to reap the results at some point. Whether that’s in this existence or another depends on many things.
    It takes a lot of understanding though when you have done only mainly good in this life and see only bad come back. That is very testing of your wisdom. But then look at the teaching of the Buddha where He said that if we bones from our every lifetime were piled up they would be higher than the hugest mountain (sorry if not an exact quote!!!) – the tears we have shed would be more vast than all the oceans… then start to reflect on how much we have ‘planted’.

    We were taught to reflect on this, understand it and turn things around to see that all we see before us is a reflection of all we have done in the past. Our hope is only not to create any more bad karma and seek forgiveness for that which we have done and cannot remember throughout countless existences…

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