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July 6, 2017 at 12:51 pm #156700MinaParticipant
It has been a while since I wanted to post this and just get it off my chest. I am a 19 year old college student who is basically in a middle of a “crisis” – to explain in general, I have always been an excellent student. I am attending a top university in a overseas country, and I had a really nice (ex) boyfriend. Recently, I find myself very unhappy and is just feeling super lost. I am not adjusting well to this new country culture and college life due to language problems (this country first language is not English), I was having a hard time, I considered moving back to my country and to just re start everything, but this doesn’t sit well with my parents.
They (my parents) had already spent tons of money and time on me. I feel the burden too. I am regretting this choices that I have made, I made the decision myself but my father influenced me to went overseas, at that time – all I wanted to do was to make my parents happy. I realise now that MY happiness matter more. This particular ex boyfriend was kind of a rock to me in this country. He is a local, is attending the same college as me (though he will move soon) and for me, he was kind of like my parents, my best friend, my boyfriend in one person. He kind of overshadows my concerns and problems while we were dating. He had helped me a lot to say the least.
When I broke up with him, I found myself back in the middle of that crisis, I think it never went away in the first place. I ended up calling my parents in the middle of the night and crying. I called my friends, they were very concerned. A lot of had people reached out to me, I felt touch by their kindness but still it was really hard for me, it still is.
I dont know what I am currently doing with my life, I feel like I just lost everything. Everyone has been trying to understand my situation and they gave me advices but I feel like this is a problem within myself that I need to fix. I am honestly considering to do an exchange in another country (next year) but I am still not 100 percent sure. I do feel like I am running away but I need this. To just relax, take a step back and find myself again. Please dont advice me to take a semester off because my parents will never approve, it will cost them more money and time. They have been quite unsupportive about this. My parents are also unaware of the fact that I seriously dated someone here. They have never approved of me dating with local guys so I decided not to tell them, and will never tell them regarding this break up either.
I am struggling. Any advice / opinion would be appreciated.
-Mina
July 6, 2017 at 1:56 pm #156708AnonymousGuestDear Mina:
There is a very important concept that if you take it in will help you tremendously, I believe. It is Distress Tolerance. What you are experiencing is distress. Tolerating it means experiencing it without panicking, without reacting in ways that will make your situation worse.
No matter how badly you feel, you can and will survive it. It is amazing how much suffering, unfortunately, people go through, emotionally, physically, and survive it. Even thrive. It FEELS badly but it is not bad unless and until you react automatically, impulsively.
Don’t give up being thoughtful, considering the consequences of your actions, regardless of how you feel.
People watch horror movies, for example. They feel really scared, terrified, through a whole lot of the movie, but at the end of the movie, they are still alive, get up and leave the theater. The fear didn’t kill them.
As you feel scared or depressed and time doesn’t seem to end, these feelings will not harm you.
Only what we do when we feel certain ways can harm us, not the feelings themselves. And if you let the feeling be, it will get weaker and you get a break. It may intensify later, but you will get a break once again. You can even invite a break by taking a walk or listening to music, or watching a movie.
A bad feeling doesn’t last endlessly and neither does a good feeling. Calm doesn’t last endlessly.
A bad feeling is not dangerous and it is not permanent.
I hope you post again, anytime.
anita
July 7, 2017 at 8:18 am #156816MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you. As usual, you always gives me amazing answers. I understand the concept that you are trying to talk to me about, I am a high achiever, being under stress is something that I get used to since I was in school. But this time? It is a bit different. It doesn’t seem like it will end. It is not like a usual stress that passes through. Why? Simply because I am questioning my life.
I wonder why am I doing all of these right now. I have no personal dreams. My parents and my teacher have always wanted me to be “someone” and to truly live my life but at this point : I just do not see it happening because I do not want it, but I do have a wish. It is very personal and some people might called me stupid for it, I do not blame them either – my wish is to get married as early as possible. Start my own family and take care of the people that I love. Being a housewife.
This again, people never understand the reason why. I do not really expect them to. If I wasn’t so smart, people wouldn’t be so mad but they feel like I am wasting my talent. I frankly do not care. Being smart, being a straight As student? It does not have any meaning to me. I dont put meaning in such things. I just wanted to be happy, doing things that I want to do. I just feel like my parents expectations of me can be pretty unrealistic, and we do not want the same thing. Every parents wants their child to be successful, but for me – I dont have that desire yet. You do not need a high degree or going to an Ivy school to be rich. You can just marry someone for that.
This sounds very reckless and selfish but this is how I truly feels. I just never say it out loud to people. I would really like it if you tell me your honest opinion.
-Mina
July 7, 2017 at 8:31 am #156820MinaParticipantAnita,
One more thing, if its kind of hard for you to understand my point of view I will give you an example.
Imagine being 35/40 year old, you’re living a very very very successful life. You have tons of money, tons of friends, your family loves you, you’re doing a job that you truly have a passion about, you’re basically living your “dream” life / the ideal life of an individual, but … you do not have anyone to share it with. Imagine how lonely it is. It really is sad. I think the saddest people in the world are lonely people. Lonely people on the outside they do not seem lonely but for me, I think i have a gift of seeing lonely people.
I never say anything to those people but deep down inside, I pity them. How can someone live their life like that? Lonely people in this case are not literally as in people that doesn’t have anyone in their life, but just normal people. I have a friend, he’s 23, doesn’t have a degree in college, doing physical labour work for more than 12 hours, he spends his weekends clubbing and just drinking trying to mask his loneliness, his girlfriend is a 55 year old women who is divorced or maybe even currently cheating on her husband. For others, he seems normal, but in my eyes – he is probably the loneliest people I have ever encountered in my life. Another friend of mine, changes boyfriend every month like she changes her clothes, that is .. also sad to me. I sound very judgemental right now, I am very well aware.
I am afraid that I am slowly turning into those “lonely” people that I always pity now that my life is a mess.
-Mina
July 7, 2017 at 10:54 am #156858AnonymousGuestDear Mina:
You wrote: “My parents and my teacher have always wanted me to be ‘someone’ and to truly live my life”- my input: you were already someone. When they send you the message that they want you to be someone in the future, they implied that you were not someone. What they implied was incorrect.
When they want you to “truly live your life” in the future, they implied that you were not truly living your life, and you may very well have been truly living your life. At least at the beginning of life, children do, truly live their lives, and so have you! Once again, they were incorrect.
You wrote: “I just wanted to be happy, doing things that I want to do”- my input: you have NOT been doing what you want to do for way too long. Way, way too long.
You wrote: “You do not need a high degree or going to an Ivy school to be rich. You can just marry someone for that”- my question for you: is being rich something you want or is it something your parents want? Sure, everyone prefers to be rich, but I wonder if marrying someone rich, in your mind, would be about pleasing your parents, as if to say: I am not being the rich career woman you want me to be, but I married a rich man, so are you pleased? Do you approve of me..?
Regarding your second post: wealth does not make people happy/ content. It is what happens in between one’s ears, that determines contentment or lack of. There are plenty of examples of people who were successful in their careers and very wealthy who preferred to not be alive at all. There are plenty who are on antidepressants and so on.
Here is a summary of my input, which you requested: I think you are in a crisis of questioning your life, the values of your parents that you have been trying to accommodate, figuring out what you want, how you want to live your life. It may be being a wife, mother and housewife. There is nothing wrong at all with this objective. Thing is, you are not in a mental position to make this decision now. The reason I state you are not in the position to make this decision is that you wrote that you want to do so “as early as possible”- the rushing in it is suspect to me, at nineteen.
It may very well be time for you to quit your studies, go back home. Clearly this has to stop: your life being about accommodating your parents’ wishes.
Problem is “back home” doesn’t read to me like a comfortable place to be in because your parents do not support you living your own life, being a “someone” capable of determining how to .. truly live your life, that is, being true to yourself. Am I correct?
anita
July 8, 2017 at 4:05 pm #157088MarkParticipantHi Mina,
You say that you don’t have any personal dreams. You can always dream! Decide on what is most important to you and create steps that will allow you to achieve it. Move closer toward that goal each day and take the time to appreciate the feeling of progress. You say you want to start a family and become a housewife. What type of partner do you want? Where would you be most likely to meet that person? Then, how can you become the type of person who you love, who a partner would love? I just read in an article that the greatest inheritance parents can pass on to a child is a happy relationship. Do you think you could be in a relationship that could survive 50 or 60 years of your child’s life in a way that is only good for him or her right now? If not, what do you still need to work on?
And you are only 19! I think a lot of people on this board would do almost anything to be nineteen again. You have so much time to settle down. Instead of stressing on what is missing, love being nineteen (but also be careful, too)! Go find the guy of your dreams and create the life you want. Focus on all the possibilities!
July 10, 2017 at 10:19 am #157308MinaParticipantDear Anita,
I will go through with your response and explain one by one.
1. You wrote : “my input: you were already someone. When they send you the message that they want you to be someone in the future, they implied that you were not someone. What they implied was incorrect.” -> What they meant by “someone” is someone who is successful, has a good career, is having a stable live according to their standards. As you can see, I am here writing about how I am questioning my life, questioning my studies and everything – so clearly I am still not that someone yet.
2. You wrote : “you have NOT been doing what you want to do for way too long. Way, way too long.” -> I am not denying this.
3. You wrote : “Sure, everyone prefers to be rich, but I wonder if marrying someone rich, in your mind, would be about pleasing your parents, as if to say: I am not being the rich career woman you want me to be, but I married a rich man, so are you pleased? Do you approve of me..?” -> I think I might have worded my sentences badly here. I wanted to emphasise the fact that career and education doesn’t matter as much after your marriage. Marriage is the ultimate goal, for me personally. I do not understand why people are working /studying so hard when at the end of the day – I would PROBABLY be more successful than those people that worked their ass all their life through MY marriage. Do not worry though, I am not planning to give up on my education ever, that I know for sure. I am also not planning to find a rich husband. I am searching for a smart, loyal and honest partner. Someone that I can truly talk to. I do not care about their money. It was just an example on how people can easily get equal respect and amount of money through marriage even though they never worked hard. I am not planning to do this in my situation.
4. You wrote : “Thing is, you are not in a mental position to make this decision now. The reason I state you are not in the position to make this decision is that you wrote that you want to do so “as early as possible”- the rushing in it is suspect to me, at nineteen.” -> I am also not denying this, I am very well aware that I am probably not in my right mind. I guess, I am thinking that marriage will solve every single problem about life that I have been dealing with. Financial problems, education problems, pressure to get marriage problems, how to live my life problems – this will ALL be solved through marriage somehow. That is how I think in the back of my mind. I know that it is probably not true.
5. You wrote : “Problem is “back home” doesn’t read to me like a comfortable place to be in because your parents do not support you living your own life, being a “someone” capable of determining how to .. truly live your life, that is, being true to yourself. Am I correct?” -> I cannot even go back home. I am only 19, I have never worked any kind of real job in life. Part times here and there for like 2 weeks per year, I did it for fun not for money. I am not capable of “rebelling” against my parents because I need their money and their support. I still want to continue college, I need money for that. Tons of money. After college, If I still haven’t met my husband yet, I would have t0 find work. This again, in my country – we need family backing. I wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for my parents. That is why I am seeking marriage as soon as possible, to get out. At least I know that I would marry someone that would let me do the things that I want to do. Instead of my family, I would be able to control my own life, I see marriage as a ticket to freedom. Going back at this point is not even choice to tell you honestly. I would have to keep going and pray that somehow I will find a way out other than marriage.
I know that I sound very absurd and weird, I am sorry for that.
-Mina
July 10, 2017 at 10:25 am #157310MinaParticipantDear Mark,
Thank you so much for your feedback. I appreciate it. I tend to overthink stuff, so I really appreciate your post. To answer your question about whether am I able to hold a long committed relationship? Yes I am. I was willing to wait for that ex of mine for 3 years until he finishes his military service since we are Koreans. It is just hard to find a guy who thinks in a similar way as me because as you can tell, I am still young. Thank you once again.
x
Mina
July 10, 2017 at 11:07 am #157322AnonymousGuestDear Mina:
I am glad you returned to your thread. I was hoping that you will.
Regarding #1, being someone: I figured what your parents mean by being someone. I am suggesting that you will be the one to determine what it means. It is possible for you to be someone valuable in your own mind, and in the minds of your future husband and children even if you are not someone in your parents’ minds.
Regarding #3- you wrote that you are looking for “a smart, loyal and honest partner,” someone you “can truly talk to”- most important, absolutely. And life’s practical matters have to be attended to as well, so finances have to be considered before marriage.
Regarding #4 & #5: I figured (right after I sent you the last post) that you are rushing to get married, at nineteen, so to get away from home (“That is why I am seeking marriage as soon as possible, to get out”), looking at marriage as a solution.
You wrote: “I am not capable of ‘rebelling’ against my parents because I need their money and their support”, not only during college, but, if not married by then, after college as well.
You wrote that going back home is not even an option, that you have to keep going and that your only ticket to freedom is through marriage.
You wrote that you “sound very absurd and weird”- not to me. You read, to me, like a very reasonable, logical person. When your parents are inflexible, set in their thinking (which is their not their unique thinking, it is the socially accepted thinking, in many countries for many decades), and you are young and dependent, what can you do?
At this point, what can you do… I agree, you are not in the position to rebel. So keep going. Regarding the marriage, it can be a solution, only if you evaluate the potential husband accurately, over time. It has to be the right man. Otherwise, you may substitute bad with worse.
And maybe later, a year, or a few years, some other good solution becomes available for you, something not visible now.
For now, yes, do keep going. Even though you will not rebel outwardly at this point, do keep your independent thinking going. I like your thinking. Keep at it. And do post anytime.
anita
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July 15, 2017 at 12:11 pm #158296MinaParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your detailed feedback. Sorry that it took me 5 days to reply to you, I actually am home for the summer right now. I talked with my parents regarding my concerns and I have been spending time with my close friends here, I was basically under a self restoration. I have to say that the break up was the main trigger of this whole thing. Last week while writing this, I was still very much in a deep dark cave, thinking that how my life had truly ended just because a boy broke up with me.
I truly realise that the main core of the problem is me. It is never about my parents or my ex. I never have any plans or goals that did not include my ex partner in the future, so of course after the relationship had ended – I genuinely thought that my future had also ended. After talking to my parents, I finally set up a short term and long term plan about my education and my working place in the future. I decided the plan myself, my mother surprisingly agrees with me right away while my father still has some other plan in his mind, I frankly at this point – does not really care about it much. I love my father but this is my life, I won’t live my life in a way that my father has lived his. I will decide what is best for me.
In a way, that break up is like a wake up call for me. It was painful, I admit that but … I am also very thankful for it. Because of that break up, it made re-think about everything in my life. Including my future dating life. I was foolish to think that me and this particular ex partner is somehow meant for each other when we are clearly not. We want different things in life, and it will never work out, even if he is not going to move college or even if he is not going to his mandatory military service. It took me a while to realise and accept that. We are just different people.
I believe that someone is out there, I will find the love of my life while finding myself slowly and surely. No need to rush anything. My parents and my friends here have truly helped me to see things in different respective. Their love and support has been overshadowing this whole thing. I see hope now because I can see my future, at least I have a plan for it that does not include anyone but myself. My plan will NOT change no matter what, I am the only one that is able to change it for the right reasons not because of a partner or because my parents said so.
It has been unbelievable that I am going through this … so young. I do not know how to explain the feeling but I am starting to really be at peace with myself. Thank you, Anita, for reading my long rant and giving such amazing advices for the past weeks. I couldn’t thank you enough. Thank you once again.
All Love,
Mina
July 15, 2017 at 12:40 pm #158300AnonymousGuestDear Mina:
You are very welcome. It is a pleasure reading your post. Three most pleasing-to-me highlights in it:
1. “this is my life, I won’t live my life in a way that my father has lived his. I will decide what is best for me”
2. “I will find the love of my life while finding myself slowly and surely. No need to rush anything”
3. “I am starting to really be at peace with myself”-
Do post again anytime and I will be glad to reply.
anita
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