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  • #156268
    Koala
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    My boyfriend and I have been together for the past 3 years and have lived together for half of this time. He is the least confrontational person I have ever met and he will do anything to avoid any awkward situations or feelings. I, on the other hand am very open about my feelings and concerns and find healing when I can talk to people about my emotions even if they are uncomfortable. Whenever I have tried to speak to him about anything to do with our relationship that is not directly positive, he will dismiss me instantly or literally hide his face and not respond. I’ve really struggled with this and despite explaining to him that we need to have conversations about things, nothing has changed. He has explained to me that he does not show his  uncomfortable emotions, even if he does feel them and this has lead to a strange culture in our relationship and in our home of not confronting anything that is not positive. As this is very against my nature, I have struggled with it but for the past year or so I have conformed to the bottling up emotions and not speaking about them culture that he follows. This has lead me to become an extremely anxious person. I have adopted very unhealthy habits where I try to become very aware of everything in his life through social media and became obsessed with worrying and checking. My self-esteem is very low, I have set unrealistic expectations of myself always trying to please him and never seeming negative. Now and then all of my worries and fear just explode out of me in the worst ways possible, where I get so upset and cannot hold them in any longer and have a big fight with him. He will then often respond the same way telling me all of the things that have been on his mind that he has not expressed. But often, after these confrontations, I feel a lot better but he becomes very angry and distant with me. He initially threatens that we are over and won’t speak to me for days having me grovel (which he seems to enjoy), taking no responsibility for any part in the argument and then often will just suddenly act as if nothing had happened and we carry on this unhealthy cycle of not speaking about any concerns and them eventually coming out in this negative way. The latest fight we had has left him so angry with me that he has moved me out of our house and involved his family who seem incredibly angry with me. He has said he hates me and we are over. But I don’t feel direct hate from him and I feel he is saying this in anger. My friends have advised that I should behave normally and stop apologising so that he sees I won’t be grovelling for days on end and that I am a strong independent person from him. But I love him and I understand that as much as I need to talk through my issues, him not being able to, is an issue he has. I know he is hurting and I don’t want to hurt him more. I want him to know that he is loved and accepted for who he is and that I can help him with any issues he has also. But I’m not sure when to say this as I don’t want him to think he can treat me any way and for as long as he wants and I’ll just wait around for him to decide when he is ready. I am going after work to pick up some of my things and I find it difficult to not tell him I love him and that I want to be there for him but I don’t want to give him the upper hand where he will continue to dismiss me until he feels I’ve been punished enough. How should I behave and how honest with my feelings should I be?

    #156352
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Koala:

    The pattern of you groveling long enough, as punishment, until he is satisfied that you are punished enough, that has to stop, and so I agree with your friends whos suggest that you stop apologizing and otherwise expressing to him, once again, that he does have the upper hand, and therefore, it is safe for him to return to the relationship.

    For my better understanding, can you give me a couple of examples of something “not directly positive” that you tried to speak to him about,  following which he dismissed you?

    And can you give me a couple of examples of what preceded you “get(ting) so upset and cannot hold them in any longer and have a big fight with him”?

    anita

    #156366
    Dawn R
    Participant

    Koala,

    When your boyfriend continually pushes you away in order to avoid difficult conversations, and then never apologizes or takes responsibility for his behavior, he is building a wall between you and your connection/intimacy.  The more he does this, the taller the wall becomes and the harder it is to break it down.  You can do and say however much you want that you accept him as he is and that you love him unconditionally.  But you can’t fix what he has broken.  Only he can do that, by taking responsibility and doing the things that need to be done, having the conversations that need to be had.  You can’t help someone who doesn’t want your help.  I appreciate your wanting to help him.  But he needs to help himself first and acknowledge what is going on for him.  What is he afraid of?  Why does he continually push you away?  Until he is honest with himself and can tell his truth, you’ll never be able to break down that wall.  No matter how hard you try.

    You said that you are a strong independent woman away from him.  Maybe that’s what you should focus on now.  Being the strong independent woman you are, with or without him.

    Good luck!

    Take Care and Many Blessing to You!

    Dawn

    #156390
    Koala
    Participant

    Dear Anita and Dawn, thank you both for your response.

    The examples of uncomfortable conversations can range greatly, from me simply expressing that maybe he should try to do something a different way, like dusting or tidying from the way he normally does it, to more serious things like I feel he is distant or bad at staying in touch with me when I’m away with work or if I think he has inappropriate behavior with other women and try to express my insecurities. I have realized the past few days that he has been 100% emotionally unavailable to me and neglected my emotions also. I have had these outbursts of my feelings eventually when things have built up so much and I am tired or if I have been drinking I seem to get more courage to say to him how I feel.

    Dawn you are right about the wall that has been created between the two of us and it definitely has made it difficult for me to feel close to him or to ever really know how he is feeling. I also agree that it is only him that can work on that part of himself and there’s not much more I can do now … I feel scared to ever bring anything up, or even ask him how he is feeling because I know he will start to feel uncomfortable and become distant with me.

    I don’t feel I have much choice other than to leave the situation as that seems to be what he wants anyway, I no longer am ok with not talking about how I feel and emotionally neglecting myself too.

    The worst part that I have realized through all of this is that his family seem to encourage this type of behavior. Instead of him showing emotion or being angry/sad they seem to do it for him. They also seem to validate any of his dramatizations and encourage him to think more dramatically about things. They seem to be absolutely horrified that we have had an argument and that I have been angry and had an outburst. I tried to explain to him that I am human and I can’t always be perfect and sometimes I will handle situations wrongly but he doesn’t seem willing to accept that.

    #156404
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Koala,

    In order for a relationship to be healthy when it comes to resolving issues it has to be 50/50. Right now, it is 100/0. You are investing so much time and energy in this man..100% and he is investing nothing. (0%). His family is not making matters any better, which makes it a no-win situation. He wants to push things under the rug, act juvenile, not talk to you in a mature and rational manner, you can talk to him until you are blue in the face, and unless he wants help from counseling for underlying unresolved issues, you will soon burn yourself out.

    I would tell him firmly, that nothing is going to change until he is willing to meet you half way. You can’t do this on your own. What he is doing right now is disrespecting you and not meeting your needs to be heard and have a mature conversation. It may be wise to advise him, to maybe take a break from each other for awhile, until he can relate to you like an adult, 50/50, or the relationship most likely will not last. He needs to do his part. You should not invest more time and energy in someone then they invest in you.

    #156422
    Koala
    Participant

    Dear Eilana,

    Thank you for your advice, you are so right and I had never thought of it that way. Thank you for being so honest.

    #156428
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Koala:

    After reading your examples and the rest of your second post, then re-reading your original post, I will quote you and point to Possibilities. You are not likely to like reading these, but if you consider them and find some validity in them, it may very well be helpful to you.

    “He is the least confrontational person I have ever met and he will do anything to avoid any awkward situations or feelings”- Possibility: you are too confrontational and he understandably doesn’t like it.

    “I, on the other hand am very open about my feelings and concerns and find healing when I can talk to people about my emotions even if they are uncomfortable”- Possibility: whenever you feel distressed you pass on your anxiety/ distress to him,  It being a Win-Lose relationship: you win (distress is relieved); he loses (distress added)

    “I have conformed to the bottling up emotions…This has lead me to become an extremely anxious person… Now and then all of my worries and fear just explode out of me in the worst ways possible, where I get so upset and cannot hold them in any longer and have a big fight with him”- Possibility: you prefer frequent smaller, daily confrontations with him, so to relieve your anxiety on a daily basis and prevent the infrequent big confrontations/ explosions.

    “often, after these confrontations, I feel a lot better but he becomes very angry and distant with me”- you do feel better. Possibility: you feel better at his expense, after passing on your distress to him.

    “I want him to know that he is loved and accepted for who he is and that I can help him with any issues he has also”- Possibility: you are often critical of him, pointing out his faults and inadequacies, and so you are sending him the message that you do not accept him and do not love him for who he is.

    “The examples of uncomfortable conversations can range greatly, from me simply expressing that maybe he should try to do something a different way, like dusting or tidying from the way he normally does it”- Possibility: you micro-manage him, looking for inadequacies and point them to him, as if better dusting is more important than his emotional well being.

    “…to more serious things like I feel he is distant or bad at staying in touch with me when I’m away with work”-Possibility: your expectations that he checks in with you are unrealistic or, it may be understandable that he is trying to avoid contact so to not get more criticism.

    anita

     

    #156458
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Koala,

    You’re welcome. Please keep us posted.

    #156532
    Dawn R
    Participant

    Koala,

    If you don’t feel safe expressing your true thoughts and feelings, then you will never have a trusting and safe relationship with him.  When you are with someone who “has your back,” even if he disagrees with you, he will still be respectful and listen to your point of view, as well as validate your feelings, even if he does’t understand them.  When he refuses to listen to you or have compassion for your struggles and difficulties (even when they involve him), it usually means he is unable to do that for himself.  It seems like his family has encouraged the “sweep it under the carpet” mentality and hasn’t taught him to be able to handle difficult situations.  Maybe they don’t know how to do it either.

    The bottom line is you should not have to tiptoe around your own emotions/thoughts in order to make your partner feel more comfortable (in your discomfort).  You should always have enough trust, safety, and security in your relationship so that even difficult discussions will be talked about in a mature manner with both people trying to be sensitive to each other’s needs and trying to be understanding and compassionate, even if they disagree.  They should both have a mutual respect and appreciation for each other and should try to be as supportive as possible, rather than trying to shut the other person up, or avoid dealing with the other person’s true thoughts and feelings.   In a healthy relationship, both people should feel safe to be whom they truly are, warts and all.

    We all want to feel loved and accepted and appreciated, without fear of being made fun of, or pushed away (physically and/or emotionally).  If he is unable to do this for you, even after talking to him about this and trying to work things out, then maybe he’s not the right partner for you.  Only you can decide the next course of action.  Only you can decide what is right for you.

    I’m an advocate for trying to work things out.  But I also know that sometimes, it’s better to take what you’ve learned and move on.  Especially when the other person isn’t willing to take responsibility for his own part.  Only you can decide for yourself when that time is.

    Good luck.  I’ll be holding good thoughts for you.

    Blessings!

    Dawn

    #157258
    Koala
    Participant

    Dear Anita and Dawn,

     

    Thank you again for your responses. I think there may be a lot of truth in him taking on my aniexties when I relieve them onto him – I had not considered this. I don’t feel that I micro manage him or that I’m overly critical or have unrealistic demands in any way. What I meant by the dusting example was that he always carries the attitude that he knows best and that nothing I have to say or to contribute has any value. When I’m away at all it’s as if I’m completely out of mind and he is very careless let alone he barely stays in touch with me.

    I think this past week has really been an eye opener to me and I now have very little desire to return to the relationship. It is amazing what you can be unaware of when you are in the midst of it all.

     

    This has helped me to accept that it is only him who can face his problems too, so thank you.

     

    If you have any advice for healing and moving on I would really appreciate that also.

     

    Thank you

    #157296
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Koala:

    In your interactions on this thread with respondents, including me, you’ve been very gracious and pleasant. In your last post you considered something in what I suggested that some people would have rejected immediately. You read to me like a gracious and reasonable person.

    This relationship has been harmful to you and I am glad you came to the realization that you “now have very little desire to return to the relationship.”

    As far as healing and moving on, my advice: maintain this relationship as a past experience. Do not spend more of your time and precious energy of a prospect that has harmed you and is likely to continue to do so.

    Keeping the distance, learn all you can from it. In the future you can use what you learn to know better what you are looking for in a man, be better equipped to correctly evaluate a future potential boyfriend, and then proceed with a healthy, loving relationship.

    Tolerate best you can sadness, distress, what you feel, without impulsively reacting to such distress, by reconnecting with him, for one. Keep busy with what works for you, to your benefit and have faith in a better future.

    anita

    #157872
    Koala
    Participant

    Thank you Anita, I am so grateful for your advice, it has definitely helped a lot. Do you have any techniques or advice for recognizing unhealthy and anxious behavior? I do tend to react instantly to my feelings and find it difficult not to. At the moment, if I am getting very upset, I’ll read these comments or message a friend, it does help.

    #157884
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Koala:

    You are welcome. Regarding “recognizing unhealthy and anxious behavior” meaning, your tendency “to react instantly to (your) feelings”-

    1. Once you are filled with an intense emotion, you will need to lower the intensity of that emotion. When a person is overwhelmed with emotions, the person is likely to react impulsively, without thinking, in a desperate way so to relieve the overwhelming emotions as quickly as possible.

    As part of psychotherapy or outside of it, certain guided meditations can help. The all start (or should start) with focusing on breathing. First guided meditations would be focusing on sounds/ one or more of the senses, which gives you a break from thinking and feeling. Following guided meditations will guide you to pay attention to your bodily sensations, feelings, thoughts. This practice of Mindfulness (paying attention to senses, sensations, feelings, thoughts)  will take a long time, but the more you practice, the more you are able to tolerate emotions without automatically/ impulsively reacting to them.

    2. You will need to learn being assertive. Here is your sentence from a previous post on this thread: “I have had these outbursts of my feelings eventually when things have built up so much and I am tired or if I have been drinking I seem to get more courage to say to him how I feel.”- the outbursts follow being overwhelmed by intense emotions (#1). But you will also need the courage to assert yourself before “things have built up so much” and without drinking first.

    anita

     

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