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June 1, 2016 at 11:22 am #106213MysteryAParticipant
Hello,
I’m going through a transitional phase of my life. I’m 24, going on 25, graduated from college 3 years ago and am moving across the country for a new opportunity. Since graduating from school, I have struggled with depression and anxiety- in therapy. I have been in an on/off again relationship with the guy I met in college, who I love deeply but has hurt me before and is still finding himself. We go back and forth because we do care about one another, but not ready for a relationship. This has caused me a lot of stress and hurt, but I’m at the point were I am okay with it. We have been apart for about 2 months. I hear from friends/family that I need to let him go, he’s not good for me and its holding me back in life. I have lost two close friends because of my depression and going back to my ex. Which brings me to my point, of not having close friends. I have 1-2 friends that I see on occasion. I recently decided to allow a friendship with a co-worker, realizing it’s been years since I’ve established a new friendship. We recently went out one night and were intoxicated in which she lashed out on me unexpectedly about “this is why you have no friends” and also my sexuality and left me in the city. I was very hurt by this, but understand it is due to her own insecurities. Thing is, I have to work next to her and so when she called the next day to apologize, I accepted. However, I do not plan to get close to her and am putting my walls up again, but of course being kind. It’s been hard, I am insecure with my friendships and relationships in general so I do not let people in close to me. I accepted that this is my transition time, and I will chose with standards who I decide to let get close to me and spend time with. Is this wrong of me?Anyone else going through a period of no close friends/relationships?
Thank you~
June 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm #106225AnonymousGuestDear Ashley:
I think it is the right thing for you to choose potential friends, to be selective, to not be friends undiscriminantly.
As to your second question; not two people are always as close: there is always movement away from each other and closer to each other, this is the nature of any closer relationship. None is always as close, unchangeable.
Your “friend” who lashed out at you. DId you share with her that you don’t have friends before the intoxication, and then when intoxicated she used your sharing against you? To point the finger of bla e at you because it was convenient for her?
If so, when a person does that, use your honest sharing against you later, that is clear indication, in my opinion to un-choose that person from the position of potential friend.
anita
June 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm #106233MysteryAParticipantHi Anita,
Thanks for the reply.
In regards to the “friend”, a few months ago we hung out after work and I did open up slightly that I am going through a phase of deciding who to spend my time with, didn’t necessarily declare that I have no friends though. I have been very kind to her, listening to her issues and giving advice when asked- very supportive. The night we went out this weekend, men were approaching me a lot and I flirting with them. She too was talking to a guy, and I figured she was independent/confident enough that if I walked away to talk to someone she would be fine. Came back to find her crying at bar first saying to me “you’re prettier than me” and then left the bar crying outside. That’s when she said she was going home in which I said directly why are you acting like this? I’m not going to deal with this- after she said no wonder you don’t have friends and now I see how you are, or something like that- which I felt was an attack on my sexuality.
We work directly next to on another, and today she was trying to open up to me about her personal life/dating- I was friendly, but I want to keep my distance a bit…. But again, I do understand people say things they don’t mean when they are drunk, yet again, there usually is truth to that. And since it is so soon in the friendship that she would say something hurtful, I can see that happening again and her being insecure around me.June 1, 2016 at 3:28 pm #106237AnonymousGuestDear Ashley:
I hear it a lot: people don’t mean what they say when they are drunk, or angry. I disagree: I think people say exactly what they mean when carried with emotion or when inhibitions are weakened.
What she said was meant to be hurtful to you, so she is still out of my list (if I was you) of potential friends.
anita
June 1, 2016 at 3:41 pm #106242MysteryAParticipantHi Anita,
I hear you, and that is my decision as well. It’s just tough with us working together, I tried showing some distance today- less animated and she asked how I was and just kept it very face value did not reveal much. I don’t want to cause any problems for the remaining 2 months I’m here before moving. She was planning to visit me when I move and do a lot over the summer before I move, but I think I will not engage much in those plans anymore.In regards to my other relationships, have you ever gone back with someone who has hurt you- rather than romantic it shifted to friendship? I say this in regards to my ex. He has always been there for me these past 3 years, and feel with me moving it would be ok to spend time with an individual who genuinely cares for me. Yet again, he has hurt me and my family & few friends disagree with my decision and think I deserve better/more self respect. I just see a beautiful connection and deep love.
June 1, 2016 at 8:31 pm #106267AnonymousGuestDear Ashley:
Regarding your getting together with your ex as a friend or otherwise, whether it is a good idea, depends on how he hurt you (and your family)- hurting could be none abusive if he failed to live up to … unreasonable expectations, let’s say, and it can be as serious as…physical abuse. So my answer (if I was you) would depend on the kind or kinds of hurting he did, how often… And if he is likely to hurt you again.
anita
June 2, 2016 at 2:17 am #106280AnonymousInactiveHi Ashley,
I am going through what you are going to. Almost exactly actually. I am 26 and it is very hard. My ex is toxic for me but as I am lonely I still think of him. I think that girl is jealous of you, just put it down to a bad experience. Maybe keep your cards close to your chest. People are funny about others expressing their needs/ wants in terms of friendships. It is because there is such a stigma to admitting you are lonely or want more friends. People assume there is something wrong with you if you don’t have a large group of mates. That girls reaction is out of fear/ insecurity. It is horrible I know. I wouldn’t get discouraged. However, maybe if you meet a new friend do something low key like coffee and forget men for a bit. Take the pressure off.
June 2, 2016 at 2:53 am #106284MattyParticipantPeople that get drunk like that and carry on, as you have stated are generally insecure. Because alcohol is meant to make you drop your defense and make you easier to get along with 😉 But, yeah fair enough, if you feel uncomfortable going further with this person, than don’t. It really can’t get better if she was carrying on like that.
In regards to going back to your ex as a friend, Anita makes a great point about ‘how’ hurt you and your family have been by his actions. But i think you also have to really think about where you want to be in 5, 10 years time, do you really want to be dealing with his actions (or inaction/s) in the future. Although you may be still in love with him or at least hold strong feelings for him, was that before everything went hot and cold. If so, then you basically have maintained an ‘ideal’ partner in your head, and hope that you can return to the way things were. there is nothing wrong with this, but it will always be in the back of your mind, what could and should be, rather than what is. Love is a complicated, abstract and slightly annoying word, because it means so much to so many different people. Your idea of love may be different to his, even though you share the same language (I assume) and have been/ are in a relationship. The question you need to ask yourself; could you live without him? Whatever the answer, that should give you an indication of where you want to go. It may not be easy, since you will most likely feel guilt or regret based on whatever action you take. I guess the main thing, is start weighing the pros and cons, try to be as objective as you can be on your current relationship with this person.
As for building close relationships with people. I have noticed that a lot of people ask this question here (i have too in the past) and i think people want to be genuinely accepted and understood by others but are also afraid of these peoples acceptance and understanding. By doing so you are allowing someone into your life, that you have judged to be worthy of your time. We all make judgments like these. Give people a chance. Give people a show of what you can do, if they are not attracted to it then you have to move on and try somewhere else. The space and communities you are a member of may not be seeing ‘you’ but just a name and face. The fact that you are moving gives you a great opportunity to set yourself up again, give people a chance to see your uniqueness.
And if people cannot see who you are, then you have to see yourself as unique and wonderful and that your life has value and meaning. Seek validation within yourself, seek to love yourself and embrace yourself. Be so brave and courageous in yourself that nothing can damage your calm and mindset. Friends and relationships are great fun, they can be supportive etc. etc. But if you can wake up every morning and know who you are inside and out, then you don’t need anyone to tell you who you are, you already know.
I hope some of this helps you, if you have any more to say, please write again 🙂
MAttyJune 2, 2016 at 6:31 am #106292Maria_LParticipantHi Ashley,
Just sending you my best wishes, and I know you’ll get out of this stronger and better. The 20’s … I think it’s the most turbulent decade of the life when we have to establish ourselves as grown-ups, find a job, re-evaluate our past relationships/ friendships, because let’s face it- life is changing us, and sometimes we barely recognize the people we were so close to. Depression and anxiety is very common in all this mix. Your last question of your first post was’ Anyone else going through a period of no close friends/relationships?’
When it comes to the ‘friends’ part consider me your soulmate…lol 🙂 I moved 2000km recently, leaving behind fake friendships, or ‘estranged’ friendships, and re-positioned myself in ‘no friendships at all’ situation. I know it’s hard, and as much as you try to be strong on your own, you need close human relationships, some people more than others. Everything seems better in my mind when you have someone to call, but.. is it right to rely so much on other people?
But it seems to me you are carrying a lot of ‘baggage’ with tangled relations with your friends and ex. I know it’s a bitter-sweet situation, but have you asked yourself do these relationships serve you more, or hurt you more? And more important, how is your relationship with- being on your own? I am asking cause I just discovered that I am scared to be on my own, dealing with anxiety and depression, I was always seeking emotional support in other people.
I won’t add much about your intoxicated friend, cause you got a lot of good answers already… People say stupid things under influence, it’s fine as long as it’s a one time thing and not a habit.
What I will add- maybe it’s time for us to become our own best friends, and start ‘small’ with other people..Do things differently this time. Get to know them bit by bit before we get too invested. I find comfort from my loneliness with simple conversations with new people I meet in all kind of groups and enviroments (aerobic lessons, organized movie nights etc…). I am starting to enjoy it.. Loneliness.. it’s scary at first, but gives us great chance to reflect on our demons, re-arrange our mental wiring that caused us problems for so long.
I hope that everything will work out for the best!…
June 2, 2016 at 3:44 pm #106324MysteryAParticipantThank you all for your replies. I am trying to relax more and take it day by day, but this past weekend and issues with my ex have stirred up a lot of anxiety in me. Luckily seeing therapist tonight.
Marliv- Thank you so much for your kindness and inspiration!
I honestly prefer to be by myself, so that’s why I think I was hurt and am sadly letting this get to me. I don’t let many in to my life, because I like doing my own thing and am figuring myself out. So to let someone in, (someone who i typically would not be friends with, but due to work), and having something so specific to hurt me I am recoiling to all contacts.
I can not wait to move, I am planning to change my phone number and be off the grid for awhile and recenter myself.
In regards to love and my ex, thank you Matty for the question of where do I see myself in 5-10 years in regards to him… I don’t see things changing, nor think I want to ride passenger with him. It’s just he is the one person in my life that I have gotten very close with and feel understood by, which can be good, yet, can enable the bad. My ex never harmed me physically, it was rather just frustration built up over the years due to his lack of motivation (imagine the sad burn out stereotype, for internet purposes), different interests, and distance of living. We also express love differently, maybe different languages on that. I just felt my needs weren’t being met and each time we broke up, the same issues would arise- him not seeing anything wrong. I just have developed a bad habit of going back to him when I experience a major emotional/life matter. I have lost friends over keeping the relationship, as well as my parents being disappointed and thinking I need more self respect than being with someone like him. Yes, by definition he is lacking ambition, lazy and aloof- but when it’s just us he is understanding and gentle- first male to do so in my life.
And Kat, in regards to people being funny with expressing their needs, especially with relationships definitely have truth to that…. which brings me to how do you know when is right? Being vulnerable is scary, isn’t it :/ I don’t want to say it’s a flaw, but I tend to live by my emotions/heart and see the good in all people– this can be good, but also makes me ignore warning signs and also give in to things that I’m sure others would turn away from.All in all, thank you wonderful people for taking the time to give me some great insight and advice. I’m trying to figure this life out, one day at a time 🙂
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